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by russell_anderson
Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:22 am
Forum: Barrow AFC
Topic: Grimes
Replies: 114
Views: 7719

Re: Grimes

Steeley wrote:Well sacked is a very different thing to what has actually happened. Its the same as saying we sacked Grand and Cook just because they left.
Sacked - No. Services not required - Yes. And the point I was making is that I doubt very much that Hitthebar22 was meaning sacked in the literal sense.
by russell_anderson
Thu Jun 16, 2016 10:58 am
Forum: Barrow AFC
Topic: Grimes
Replies: 114
Views: 7719

Re: Grimes

Kieran wrote:
Hitthebar22 wrote: Of course he's been sacked "left by mutual agreement".
Just like Edmo.
And anyone else that realizes that they are so poor they aren't wanted having been so poor they just can't cut it.
Has he balls been sacked! He wasn't in the manager's plans so has been told he can leave if he wanted to, he's found himself another club therefore a transfer has been set up. The only issue left to settle was that he still had a contract with us. Do we want a fee? Does he want the rest of his contract paying up as compensation for it being terminated? Neither of those scenarios would have been beneficial to player or club so its been agreed to terminate the contract so that he's free to join Southport. That's all the "mutual agreement" bit refers to. If Grimes had wanted to he could've easily sat out the remaining year picking up a good wage for very little.

Disappointing it hasn't worked out with him and there does appear to be a suggestion that his attitude isn't great, but to suggest we've sacked him is nonsense.
I took Hitthebar22's "sacked" comment not to mean literally sacked but "allowed to leave", "not wanted", "told he had no future therefore could stay to the end of his contract without being picked or move on", etc, etc. all of which I believe are perfectly true. Perhaps he could clarify but I didn't for a moment think he meant literally sacked as it obvious to anybody that he couldn't be sacked other than for misconduct and there has been no suggestion of that by anybody.
by russell_anderson
Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:27 pm
Forum: Barrow AFC
Topic: Grimes
Replies: 114
Views: 7719

Re: Grimes

The Real Slim a former member of this forum wrote:
russell_anderson wrote:Of course he had a contract for another year because he had a 2 year contract! That's why Cox let him go as soon as another club would have him! I couldn't bag a brace against Haverigg because when I played only our reserve team played against them!

You probably couldn't bag your shopping Russell.
No. I'm sure I've never played football at your exalted level.
by russell_anderson
Tue Jun 14, 2016 3:53 pm
Forum: Barrow AFC
Topic: Grimes
Replies: 114
Views: 7719

Re: Grimes

The Real Slim a former member of this forum wrote:
russell_anderson wrote:When I saw him the 15 yard radius was around the halfway line which is not what I call playing just off the striker. Plus the manager obviously kept him on because he had a contract and had no choice. If he had wanted to keep Grimes he would have played him in the team more often. And please don't be obnoxious. I'm certainly not drunk and have never resorted to personal abuse with you even though I would question that you have much in the way of football knowledge.
Grimes had a contract with us for another year before he signed for Southport.

When you've bagged a brace away against Haverigg then get back to me.
Of course he had a contract for another year because he had a 2 year contract! That's why Cox let him go as soon as another club would have him! I couldn't bag a brace against Haverigg because when I played only our reserve team played against them!
by russell_anderson
Tue Jun 14, 2016 3:17 pm
Forum: Barrow AFC
Topic: Grimes
Replies: 114
Views: 7719

Re: Grimes

The Real Slim a former member of this forum wrote:
russell_anderson wrote:"End of" in your mind! In my mind when I saw him "End of" was that he actually didn't contribute anything. Hovered in a 15 yard radius; never got in a decent position to receive the ball; never put in a challenge to win the ball; never passed the ball more than 10 yards sideways; never had a shot on goal or even got near enough to have a shot. Granted a few away matches isn't a lot to go on but it's enough to judge whether a player is contributing anything and he wasn't! He's certainly not the worst player I've seen play for Barrow but there aren't many I've seen contribute less in a game. IF Simon Grand said that then he hasn't played with many decent players and he obviously disagrees with his former manager who hardly ever picked Grimes and got rid of him as soon as he could! And even managers like Cox who obviously think big players are a bonus in this league don't get rid of smaller ones if he thinks they have something to offer as shown by the fact that he kept Harvey who was very impressive in the games I saw him play. Grimes may or may not have been decent (a relative term at the level he's always played) but he certainly wasn't when I watched him.
Hovering a 15 yard radius is exactly what players do when they play just off the striker. Thats like criticizing Andy Cook for his goal kicks. Players like Grimes want the ball to feet but our game plan last season was to get it on cookys head and hope the bounce favours us.

What "if"? Go on Simon Grands twitter its all there.

He kept him on for 6 months so he didn't really "get rid of him as soon as he could" did he?

Go home Russell , you're drunk.
When I saw him the 15 yard radius was around the halfway line which is not what I call playing just off the striker. Plus the manager obviously kept him on because he had a contract and had no choice. If he had wanted to keep Grimes he would have played him in the team more often. And please don't be obnoxious. I'm certainly not drunk and have never resorted to personal abuse with you even though I would question that you have much in the way of football knowledge.
by russell_anderson
Tue Jun 14, 2016 12:31 pm
Forum: Barrow AFC
Topic: Grimes
Replies: 114
Views: 7719

Re: Grimes

"End of" in your mind! In my mind when I saw him "End of" was that he actually didn't contribute anything. Hovered in a 15 yard radius; never got in a decent position to receive the ball; never put in a challenge to win the ball; never passed the ball more than 10 yards sideways; never had a shot on goal or even got near enough to have a shot. Granted a few away matches isn't a lot to go on but it's enough to judge whether a player is contributing anything and he wasn't! He's certainly not the worst player I've seen play for Barrow but there aren't many I've seen contribute less in a game. IF Simon Grand said that then he hasn't played with many decent players and he obviously disagrees with his former manager who hardly ever picked Grimes and got rid of him as soon as he could! And even managers like Cox who obviously think big players are a bonus in this league don't get rid of smaller ones if he thinks they have something to offer as shown by the fact that he kept Harvey who was very impressive in the games I saw him play. Grimes may or may not have been decent (a relative term at the level he's always played) but he certainly wasn't when I watched him.
by russell_anderson
Fri Jun 10, 2016 6:33 pm
Forum: Barrow AFC
Topic: Grimes
Replies: 114
Views: 7719

Re: Grimes

The Real Slim a former member of this forum wrote:
russell_anderson wrote:I agree. The few times I saw him he hardly ever moved out of a 15 yard radius. Running was an alien concept to him.

Thats what happens when your an attacking midfielder who wants the ball to his feet. Didn't really work to well if the balls going over his and Andy Cooks head for a goal kick.

Ive never understood this Barrow Fan logic of " Hes runs around alot so hes a good player."
"Running around a lot" doesn't make a good player but you'll never make a good player even with some skill if you put no effort in and that's the player I saw when I watched Grimes.
by russell_anderson
Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:54 pm
Forum: Barrow AFC
Topic: Grimes
Replies: 114
Views: 7719

Re: Grimes

Hitthebar22 wrote:He never showed any real commitment, he never looked like he was trying. I don't like bad mouthing people without feeling very strongly about it, but in my opinion he was a very, very poor player who might have flattered to deceive if he'd put more effort in. No chance of that from what I saw.
I agree. The few times I saw him he hardly ever moved out of a 15 yard radius. Running was an alien concept to him.
by russell_anderson
Fri Jun 10, 2016 12:12 pm
Forum: Barrow AFC
Topic: Grimes
Replies: 114
Views: 7719

Re: Grimes

I was just as impressed by him as Paul Cox obviously was!

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