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Re: Safe

Post by Hitthebar22 » Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:52 am

Apologies if this has been identified elsewhere, but after last night's results it's dead simple now.
1 point or more from our remaining 4 fixtures and we stay up, irrespective of what happens to Southend or Grimsby.
Grimsby and/or Southend relegated if they don't win their remaining fixtures, irrespective of what we do.

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Post by AugustusCorpa » Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:58 am

Was thinking Barrow,Grimsby & Southend should just breakaway and form some kind of a super league.

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Post by Fazered » Wed Apr 21, 2021 11:01 am

AugustusCorpa wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:58 am Was thinking Barrow,Grimsby & Southend should just breakaway and form some kind of a super league.
Super GLUE league :D :D :D
Just say no to VAR :sentoff:

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Post by Hadrian » Wed Apr 21, 2021 11:04 am

Hitthebar22 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:52 am 1 point or more from our remaining 4 fixtures and we stay up, irrespective of what happens to Southend or Grimsby.
If we only win one more point Grimsby can catch us by winning all four remaining games.
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Re: Safe

Post by AyrToBarra » Wed Apr 21, 2021 11:10 am

Seems a lot of people are forgetting why Southend and Grimsby, like Barrow, are where they are!

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Post by Hadrian » Wed Apr 21, 2021 11:41 am

Not at all - merely correcting an error.
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Post by RedWeb » Wed Apr 21, 2021 11:51 am

Grimsby have the run-in from hell:

Oldham (A) - Revitalised side scoring for fun
Port Vale (H) - Probably the form team outside the Premiership
Exeter (A) - Vying for the play-offs
Cambridge (A) - Currently top of the the league

If we had their fixtures folk on here would be saying we'd get 0 points.

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Post by Adam29 » Wed Apr 21, 2021 12:25 pm

And Southend have scored 3 goals in the last 13 games and their starting line up yesterday had scored a combined total of 8 goals for the season between them.

If we were in the position either of those were in people on here would rightly so be declaring us down. Yet it’s the opposite - people on here seem to think that they’ll magically go on a 3 - 4 game winning run and relegate us instead

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Post by SKIPPER » Wed Apr 21, 2021 12:38 pm

Adam29 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 12:25 pm And Southend have scored 3 goals in the last 13 games and their starting line up yesterday had scored a combined total of 8 goals for the season between them.

If we were in the position either of those were in people on here would rightly so be declaring us down. Yet it’s the opposite - people on here seem to think that they’ll magically go on a 3 - 4 game winning run and relegate us instead
Plus they had midfielder Dimitreu sent off last night-out for the season- and the local media called their display in a must-win derby as pitiful.

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Re: Safe

Post by McMark » Wed Apr 21, 2021 12:40 pm

Always expect the worst but hope for the best outcome!
It’s the only consistent philosophy I have found taken by many supporters of Barrow AFC in my time watching.😅

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Re: Safe

Post by russell_anderson » Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:50 pm

Adam29 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 12:25 pm And Southend have scored 3 goals in the last 13 games and their starting line up yesterday had scored a combined total of 8 goals for the season between them.

If we were in the position either of those were in people on here would rightly so be declaring us down. Yet it’s the opposite - people on here seem to think that they’ll magically go on a 3 - 4 game winning run and relegate us instead
We are huge favouites to stay up but it could still get very nervous if Southend happen to beat Orient!

Even if we get 0 points from our last 4 matches then Southend have to win all of their 3 matches to finish above us and Grimsby need to win 3 and draw 1 of their last 4.

Looking at Grimsby's fixtures, it's almost inconceivable that they could do that.

Southend have 2 of their 3 matches at home, against Leyton Orient and Newport and an away match against us.
If they happen to beat Orient and we lose at Tranmere and at Forest Green then it will be a very nervous home match against Southend a week on Tuesday!

I just hope Southend don't beat Orient because I can't say I expect us to get anything at Tranmere, Forest Green or at Exeter in our last match as they are all fighting for automatic promotion or playoff positions and we are very poor at the moment.

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Post by mickmike wilson » Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:03 pm

russell_anderson wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:50 pm
Adam29 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 12:25 pm And

I just hope Southend don't beat Orient because I can't say I expect us to get anything at Tranmere, Forest Green or at Exeter in our last match as they are all fighting for automatic promotion or playoff positions and we are very poor at the moment.
As daft as Football is, We usually get decent results Vs better sides and crumble Vs those around us.

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Re: Safe

Post by Suffolk Blue » Wed Apr 21, 2021 5:51 pm

Adam29 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 12:25 pm And Southend have scored 3 goals in the last 13 games and their starting line up yesterday had scored a combined total of 8 goals for the season between them.

If we were in the position either of those were in people on here would rightly so be declaring us down. Yet it’s the opposite - people on here seem to think that they’ll magically go on a 3 - 4 game winning run and relegate us instead
Adam - the voice of reason as usual. We seem to be obsessed with Southend presumably because of the perceived significance of the upcoming fixture.

Phil Browns appointment with only 6 games to go was either a moment of inspiration or as it might seem to many desperation. From what I know of Phil Brown he is quite meticulous when it comes to setting targets. My guess is that when looked at the last 6 games for Southend at the time he set himself a minimum of probably 11 points (i,e 47 points). Three wins and two draws. This would've allowed Colchester and Barrow to get to 46 points but no further. Two of the three wins would have to be Colchester and Barrow. The third I suspect he would have earmarked as the first game at home to Crawley. . Exeter away, Orient at home and Newport at home would have to deliver the other two points.

What he got was a stalemate of a draw against Crawley, a decent point at Exeter which I believe the latter dominated and an abject defeat at Colchester described by Brown as the biggest game in Southends history. Colchester get two wins, Barrow get one to Exeter. Instead of the three teams being on or about 43 or 44 points, Southend still need 9 points from 3 games. Whatever their strategy was is bust. All they have left on their side is mathematics. To the lack of goals you can add the fact that they are especially poor at home (I think their last home win was against us).

Still think Grimsby will finish above Southend. They showed against Bolton that they can raise their game in a way that Southend cant. Unfortunately for them Morecambe demonstrated that Grimsby probably cannot raise it in every game.

Would really like this season to end. Its been pretty horrible. Whilst survival would bring relief the absence of enjoyment has been palpable. The forum has become tense, manic and fractious. I think we need to take a collective deep breath.

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Re: Safe

Post by HenneysKnee » Wed Apr 21, 2021 6:14 pm

When Suffolk Blue says Southend and Grimsby are knackered (thus indicating we are safe) that is that. Finito

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Post by mall » Wed Apr 21, 2021 6:57 pm

HenneysKnee wrote: ↑Wed Apr 21, 2021 6:14 pm When Suffolk Blue says Southend and Grimsby are knackered (thus indicating we are safe) that is that. Finito
I concur.

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