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Paulmichael wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:16 am The things that gets me, is evatts class he showed after the league ended, his countless interviews with the press championing our case, speaking how we will be going for another promotion, the perfect storm etc and as soon as the next tempting offer comes in hes off, feel really disappointed with him, yes he will always be remembered fondly for taking us up and the type of football but his behaviour firstly with fylde and then now tarnished his reputation here

Stephen Leonard wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:24 am

barrowfan wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:17 am Just to follow on chipmunx's point, as I understand it he hasn't yet been given official permission to talk to Bolton. Assuming he gets that on or after 1 July then we should get compensation based on the EFL figure.

I have no idea whether this is the issue that is causing different opinions re the compensation figure as I have no idea what’s in the contract

However the issue about are we a NL or EFL is also possibly a legal one as well . Yes we are champions - yes we are therefore eligible to be promoted - but all leagues membership constitution is decided at their AGMs along with any other rules . Therefore until all playoffs (EFL and NL) are complete and an AGM takes place and the list of teams in each is formally agreed the I would say it is very possible we are still technically and legally a NL team

Theoretically something could happen between now and an AGM that prevents us becoming an EFL team (can’t think of anything that would cause this but it’s about whether it’s possible )

So just because we are champions and eligible to be an EFL team next year doesn’t mean we actually are one yet.

chipmunx wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:43 am

Stephen Leonard wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:24 am

I have no idea whether this is the issue that is causing different opinions re the compensation figure as I have no idea what’s in the contract

However the issue about are we a NL or EFL is also possibly a legal one as well . Yes we are champions - yes we are therefore eligible to be promoted - but all leagues membership constitution is decided at their AGMs along with any other rules . Therefore until all playoffs (EFL and NL) are complete and an AGM takes place and the list of teams in each is formally agreed the I would say it is very possible we are still technically and legally a NL team

Theoretically something could happen between now and an AGM that prevents us becoming an EFL team (can’t think of anything that would cause this but it’s about whether it’s possible )

So just because we are champions and eligible to be an EFL team next year doesn’t mean we actually are one yet.

I'm not sure it even needs to wait for the AGM - when the FA board ratifies the NL decision including our promotion then that should be confirmation enough

sambino wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:48 am Has evo even spoken to Bolton yet ? He might have a chat to see how it lies and then think this isn’t for us where does that leave us ?

chipmunx wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:43 am

Stephen Leonard wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:24 am

I have no idea whether this is the issue that is causing different opinions re the compensation figure as I have no idea what’s in the contract

However the issue about are we a NL or EFL is also possibly a legal one as well . Yes we are champions - yes we are therefore eligible to be promoted - but all leagues membership constitution is decided at their AGMs along with any other rules . Therefore until all playoffs (EFL and NL) are complete and an AGM takes place and the list of teams in each is formally agreed the I would say it is very possible we are still technically and legally a NL team

Theoretically something could happen between now and an AGM that prevents us becoming an EFL team (can’t think of anything that would cause this but it’s about whether it’s possible )

So just because we are champions and eligible to be an EFL team next year doesn’t mean we actually are one yet.

I'm not sure it even needs to wait for the AGM - when the FA board ratifies the NL decision including our promotion then that should be confirmation enough

Ste Story wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:54 am Important things to remember:

1) Evatt wanting to join Bolton doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't enjoy being here. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

2) Agents only tend to get paid when their clients sign new contracts or make moves. Can't understate the influence Evatt's agent is potentially having on events. Surely no coincidence that a number of the Bolton media faces who are trying to pull strings and leak soundbites are followed by Evatt's agent on social media. The sad thing is, IE signing a 3 year deal will have been much more lucrative for the agent than a 1 or 2 year deal, so he's benefitted financially from it but now wants a move to benefit financially again from not honouring it. Agents are, sadly, parasites that we must learn to live with more and more as the game goes on.

3) A debt free football league club with a supportive board, engaging support and momentum on and off the pitch is always going to be an attractive prospect for managers, and i don't think we'd be short of interest should it come to it.

4) Our board are undoubtedly holding the best interests of the football club at the core of absolutely every decision they make, which is a joy to see, and great for the future of the club.

5) We're going to be watching FL football on Holker St with a roof on the HSE. We could be watching Micky Moore lead the team out and that'd still be beyond our wildest dreams of even a few years ago... Things are good at BAFC.

ade383 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:38 am

chipmunx wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:26 am it's all to do with which figure you use. the players and manager have a clause that gives them an increase if we are in the league - partly due to being paid 52 weeks in the EFL and not 44 in the NL and partly just an increase. Barrow are saying it should be based on the EFL figure as we have been promoted. Bolton are saying it should be on the NL figure.

Surely the NL season is finished with and we are now a football league side so IE is the manager of a EFL side?? Seems pretty simple to me

Ste Story wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:54 am Important things to remember:

1) Evatt wanting to join Bolton doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't enjoy being here. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

2) Agents only tend to get paid when their clients sign new contracts or make moves. Can't understate the influence Evatt's agent is potentially having on events. Surely no coincidence that a number of the Bolton media faces who are trying to pull strings and leak soundbites are followed by Evatt's agent on social media. The sad thing is, IE signing a 3 year deal will have been much more lucrative for the agent than a 1 or 2 year deal, so he's benefitted financially from it but now wants a move to benefit financially again from not honouring it. Agents are, sadly, parasites that we must learn to live with more and more as
3) A debt free football league club with a supportive board, engaging support and momentum on and off the pitch is always going to be an attractive prospect for managers, and i don't think we'd be short of interest should it come to it.

4) Our board are undoubtedly holding the best interests of the football club at the core of absolutely every decision they make, which is a joy to see, and great for the future of the club.

5) We're going to be watching FL football on Holker St with a roof on the HSE. We could be watching Micky Moore lead the team out and that'd still be beyond our wildest dreams of even a few years ago... Things are good at BAFC.