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Re: Edmo has 5 match touchline ban for sexist comments

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 3:36 pm
by Manchester Branch
blue nige wrote:
Manchester Branch wrote:You don't have to agree on the rights/wrongs of what Edmo said (and according to one poster on here, he did say it) to see the massive double standard being applied by the Mail and the club. Good post above from Spongbob.

Double standards i was told the person who was banned was only banned because if the club didn`t take this action he would have received a banning order
making his ban much longer,if i am wrong then i apologize but if i`m not then please tell me what else could they do?
You're labouring under the assumption that I'm referring to one particular case (about which I know little). I'm talking about the club's and the mail's general attitude to 'disrespectful behaviour' (for the want of a generic term) where Barrow fans are concerned.

Re: Edmo has 5 match touchline ban for sexist comments

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 4:20 pm
by Holkerbird
I am going to make an official complaint about posters on this forum accusing me of hiding men in my cellar. :sentoff: :lol:

If what has been said on here is true---a throw away line in passing to the bench, then those people who complained want to go and sit in a library with a good book. A ridiculous situation. We are all aware of insulting behaviour but I wouldn't think that qualifies for that category.
It must be difficult being a male nowadays to keep within the confines of political correctness. I hope the same rule never applies to women's comments about men or I will be in BIG trouble.
It was common knowledge last week as we discussed it on the bus. Just because certain people on here weren't aware doesn't mean it was hushed up. I can't recall Leitchy's ban being on the club website when it happened although I could be wrong cos I very rarely read that.

Re: Edmo has 5 match touchline ban for sexist comments

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 5:18 pm
by The Real Slim Azza
Holkerbird wrote:I am going to make an official complaint about posters on this forum accusing me of hiding men in my cellar. :sentoff: :lol:

If what has been said on here is true---a throw away line in passing to the bench, then those people who complained want to go and sit in a library with a good book. A ridiculous situation. We are all aware of insulting behaviour but I wouldn't think that qualifies for that category.
It must be difficult being a male nowadays to keep within the confines of political correctness. I hope the same rule never applies to women's comments about men or I will be in BIG trouble.
It was common knowledge last week as we discussed it on the bus. Just because certain people on here weren't aware doesn't mean it was hushed up. I can't recall Leitchy's ban being on the club website when it happened although I could be wrong cos I very rarely read that.
Good post Elaine

Re: Edmo has 5 match touchline ban for sexist comments

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 5:20 pm
by Bingo
Holkerbird wrote:I am going to make an official complaint about posters on this forum accusing me of hiding men in my cellar. :sentoff: :lol:

If what has been said on here is true---a throw away line in passing to the bench, then those people who complained want to go and sit in a library with a good book. A ridiculous situation. We are all aware of insulting behaviour but I wouldn't think that qualifies for that category.
It must be difficult being a male nowadays to keep within the confines of political correctness. I hope the same rule never applies to women's comments about men or I will be in BIG trouble.
It was common knowledge last week as we discussed it on the bus. Just because certain people on here weren't aware doesn't mean it was hushed up. I can't recall Leitchy's ban being on the club website when it happened although I could be wrong cos I very rarely read that.
There was an article in the evening mail about Leitvhys ban tho - nothing about Edmo tho - banter is fine Elaine with amongst people who are mates calling someone's a ability info question because of their sex is fairly pathetic - ok maybe the punishment was harsh but if your the manager of a football team you keep your views to yourself

I'd respect him for saying she was a rubbish liner but not she was rubbish because she's a women that's insulting

Re: Edmo has 5 match touchline ban for sexist comments

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 6:23 pm
by Holkerbird
Bingo wrote:
Holkerbird wrote:I am going to make an official complaint about posters on this forum accusing me of hiding men in my cellar. :sentoff: :lol:

If what has been said on here is true---a throw away line in passing to the bench, then those people who complained want to go and sit in a library with a good book. A ridiculous situation. We are all aware of insulting behaviour but I wouldn't think that qualifies for that category.
It must be difficult being a male nowadays to keep within the confines of political correctness. I hope the same rule never applies to women's comments about men or I will be in BIG trouble.
It was common knowledge last week as we discussed it on the bus. Just because certain people on here weren't aware doesn't mean it was hushed up. I can't recall Leitchy's ban being on the club website when it happened although I could be wrong cos I very rarely read that.
There was an article in the evening mail about Leitvhys ban tho - nothing about Edmo tho - banter is fine Elaine with amongst people who are mates calling someone's a ability info question because of their sex is fairly pathetic - ok maybe the punishment was harsh but if your the manager of a football team you keep your views to yourself

I'd respect him for saying she was a rubbish liner but not she was rubbish because she's a women that's insulting
Wasn't the ban in the paper after Leitchy's court appearance?
I stand by what I say Charlie. I call men's ability on lots of things into question so I guess I am sexist. They are useless at bearing children for a start.
We will be like a Soviet state before long.

Re: Edmo has 5 match touchline ban for sexist comments

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 6:25 pm
by Holkerbird
Holkerbird wrote:
Bingo wrote: There was an article in the evening mail about Leitvhys ban tho - nothing about Edmo tho - banter is fine Elaine with amongst people who are mates calling someone's a ability info question because of their sex is fairly pathetic - ok maybe the punishment was harsh but if your the manager of a football team you keep your views to yourself

I'd respect him for saying she was a rubbish liner but not she was rubbish because she's a women that's insulting
Wasn't the ban in the paper after Leitchy's court appearance?
I stand by what I say Charlie. I call men's ability on lots of things into question so I guess I am sexist. They are useless at bearing children for a start.
We will be like a Soviet state before long.
Oh no just thought is that racist even though they are now defunct?

Re: Edmo has 5 match touchline ban for sexist comments

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 7:27 pm
by ant
What would have happened if it was a female football manager that had allegedly said that about female liner?

Re: Edmo has 5 match touchline ban for sexist comments

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 7:34 pm
by The Real Slim Azza
ant wrote:What would have happened if it was a female football manager that had allegedly said that about female liner?

It would depend on her sexual orientation / religious views

Re: Edmo has 5 match touchline ban for sexist comments

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 7:34 pm
by blue nige
Manchester Branch wrote:
blue nige wrote:
Double standards i was told the person who was banned was only banned because if the club didn`t take this action he would have received a banning order
making his ban much longer,if i am wrong then i apologize but if i`m not then please tell me what else could they do?
You're labouring under the assumption that I'm referring to one particular case (about which I know little). I'm talking about the club's and the mail's general attitude to 'disrespectful behaviour' (for the want of a generic term) where Barrow fans are concerned.

Fair point see where you are coming from! :)

Re: Edmo has 5 match touchline ban for sexist comments

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 7:37 pm
by extrover
Then it is called light-hearted banter, don't ya know. They can have it all ways up. It is being a caucasian male that is such a terrible sin.

Re: Edmo has 5 match touchline ban for sexist comments

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 8:00 pm
by mickmike wilson
Bingo wrote:
I've said things when calling bingo that might be classed as sexist but it's more about taking the [SwearFilter] out of myself and the women knew i wasn't sexist and it was fun banter - in context it wasn't malicious.
What if someone in the hall took offense at this "Banter" & you were hauled over the coals & possibly sacked Or they sued you in court as these comments offended them, this is what everyone is turning into these PC bonkers crazy world.

Re: Edmo has 5 match touchline ban for sexist comments

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 8:10 pm
by mickmike wilson
spongebobsquarepants wrote:A word in itself is not offensive/racist but rather the context in which it is used is.

If you're walking down the street and see a mate and you then shout 'Oi you stupid [SwearFilter]' then clearly that will not be offensive. However, if you shouted it at a random person in the street you may cause offence.
Any one over hearing your obviously banterish joke to your mate could very easily get you in trouble for your comments by being "ever so offended by hearing them" Exactly what's happened to Edmo here, See how easily your words can be turned against you.....I strongly disagree with the namby pamby clone state the worlds turning into :cry:

Re: Edmo has 5 match touchline ban for sexist comments

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 8:24 pm
by Bingo
mickmike wilson wrote:
Bingo wrote:
I've said things when calling bingo that might be classed as sexist but it's more about taking the [SwearFilter] out of myself and the women knew i wasn't sexist and it was fun banter - in context it wasn't malicious.
What if someone in the hall took offense at this "Banter" & you were hauled over the coals & possibly sacked Or they sued you in court as these comments offended them, this is what everyone is turning into these PC bonkers crazy world.

And I would have been mortified if one of my comments, quips or jokes ever offended anyone because I am that kind of person - but people knew what they were getting with me I was well liked and most of my quips were actually making fun of myself. I would never ever go to a womens or mans work place and question their ability solely based upon sex or anything else for that mater. If someone is a useless [SwearFilter] they are a useless [SwearFilter] no matter what.

Going round in circles here and I have my tea to cook

Re: Edmo has 5 match touchline ban for sexist comments

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 8:52 pm
by boyliegladbach
Bingo wrote:
Going round in circles here and I have my tea to cook
Cooking tea, women's work that is.

Re: Edmo has 5 match touchline ban for sexist comments

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 9:03 pm
by barrowfan_chris
Rules are rules people. Just don't say it even if its 'banter' society has moved on from being able to be racist, homophobic and sexist.

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