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Re: Maidstone Match Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 3:43 pm
by Si_Nichols
Richard Ingham wrote:Another view: http://www.themaidstone.co.uk/index.html

Not for those who get offended by swearing
What a prize cock!

Re: Maidstone Match Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 4:10 pm
by boyliegladbach
Si_Nichols wrote:
Richard Ingham wrote:Another view: http://www.themaidstone.co.uk/index.html

Not for those who get offended by swearing
What a prize cock!
His own fans don't really agree with him
http://maidstoneunitedfc.proboards.com/ ... /on-barrow

Re: Maidstone Match Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 4:15 pm
by Si_Nichols
boyliegladbach wrote:
Si_Nichols wrote:
What a prize cock!
His own fans don't really agree with him
http://maidstoneunitedfc.proboards.com/ ... /on-barrow
Yeah I had already read that and the ones I chatted with there pretty much echoed the majority of comments on their forum

Re: Maidstone Match Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:41 pm
by dave mufc
Firstly as a Maidstone fan i would like to say well done to your supporters who made the trip.Then would like to say sorry to the few who seemed to be getting regular aggro from our stewards.Speaking with some of your fans we need to learn a lesson and quickly.Also one your female fans had a fall hope she is ok and not badly hurt.Good luck for rest of season

Re: Maidstone Match Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:12 pm
by DIXIE
Stephen Leonard wrote:
DIXIE wrote: I would say the additional income would more than cover costs. Players wages around the same, if higher only slighty, travel and accommodation costs the same.
Being better off in the Football League is obvious.
Why except for maybe a slight increase in our playing staff wage bill, would it cost more to run the Football Club. It is impossible to tell, am i missing something? financially we would obviously be better off inside the FL.
I guess i must be missing the obvious then.

My view is that to survive and progress in the football league will take more expenditure on the ground, playing staff, off field staff, general infrastructure, travel, training etc - Yes there will be additional income from TV deals and a probable short term increase in crowds (unless progress upwards is maintained) but I don't think this would last forever.

I would imagine before the promotion from National League North the last 2 times people would have said that financially we would be better off in the National League as there is more crowds, more sponsorship etc. The facts have proved that assumption wrong both times.

If the club was set up to exploit all the opportunities for increased revenue that might come from promotion then in the short term it might be ok - but I think that is the major problem I foresee - the club is not ready off the pitch for promotion (the same as it wasnt in 2009).

All about opinions though isnt it.
Players wages minimal, Travel around the same maybe less, off field staff the same, training the same we are already full time. Change in income from the FL compared to the NL massive.

Re: Maidstone Match Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:26 pm
by The Real Slim Azza
DIXIE wrote:
Stephen Leonard wrote: I guess i must be missing the obvious then.

My view is that to survive and progress in the football league will take more expenditure on the ground, playing staff, off field staff, general infrastructure, travel, training etc - Yes there will be additional income from TV deals and a probable short term increase in crowds (unless progress upwards is maintained) but I don't think this would last forever.

I would imagine before the promotion from National League North the last 2 times people would have said that financially we would be better off in the National League as there is more crowds, more sponsorship etc. The facts have proved that assumption wrong both times.

If the club was set up to exploit all the opportunities for increased revenue that might come from promotion then in the short term it might be ok - but I think that is the major problem I foresee - the club is not ready off the pitch for promotion (the same as it wasnt in 2009).

All about opinions though isnt it.
Players wages minimal, Travel around the same maybe less, off field staff the same, training the same we are already full time. Change in income from the FL compared to the NL massive.

Dream world.

Re: Maidstone Match Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 9:19 pm
by paddy71
The Real Slim a former member of this forum wrote:
DIXIE wrote: Players wages minimal, Travel around the same maybe less, off field staff the same, training the same we are already full time. Change in income from the FL compared to the NL massive.

Dream world.
What's it like?

Re: Maidstone Match Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 9:43 pm
by geobarrovian
DIXIE wrote:
Stephen Leonard wrote: I guess i must be missing the obvious then.

My view is that to survive and progress in the football league will take more expenditure on the ground, playing staff, off field staff, general infrastructure, travel, training etc - Yes there will be additional income from TV deals and a probable short term increase in crowds (unless progress upwards is maintained) but I don't think this would last forever.

I would imagine before the promotion from National League North the last 2 times people would have said that financially we would be better off in the National League as there is more crowds, more sponsorship etc. The facts have proved that assumption wrong both times.

If the club was set up to exploit all the opportunities for increased revenue that might come from promotion then in the short term it might be ok - but I think that is the major problem I foresee - the club is not ready off the pitch for promotion (the same as it wasnt in 2009).

All about opinions though isnt it.
Players wages minimal, Travel around the same maybe less, off field staff the same, training the same we are already full time. Change in income from the FL compared to the NL massive.
Well this is a massive oversimplification

Re: Maidstone Match Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 9:53 pm
by Stephen Leonard
DIXIE wrote:
Stephen Leonard wrote: I guess i must be missing the obvious then.

My view is that to survive and progress in the football league will take more expenditure on the ground, playing staff, off field staff, general infrastructure, travel, training etc - Yes there will be additional income from TV deals and a probable short term increase in crowds (unless progress upwards is maintained) but I don't think this would last forever.

I would imagine before the promotion from National League North the last 2 times people would have said that financially we would be better off in the National League as there is more crowds, more sponsorship etc. The facts have proved that assumption wrong both times.

If the club was set up to exploit all the opportunities for increased revenue that might come from promotion then in the short term it might be ok - but I think that is the major problem I foresee - the club is not ready off the pitch for promotion (the same as it wasnt in 2009).

All about opinions though isnt it.
Players wages minimal, Travel around the same maybe less, off field staff the same, training the same we are already full time. Change in income from the FL compared to the NL massive.
Ok - I've obviously got it all wrong - seems it's much simpler than I thought to run a football club based on your 'facts'
I'll bow out of the debate before I embarrass myself more with incorrect ideas :?

Re: Maidstone Match Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:41 pm
by Londonblue
DIXIE wrote:
Stephen Leonard wrote: I guess i must be missing the obvious then.

My view is that to survive and progress in the football league will take more expenditure on the ground, playing staff, off field staff, general infrastructure, travel, training etc - Yes there will be additional income from TV deals and a probable short term increase in crowds (unless progress upwards is maintained) but I don't think this would last forever.

I would imagine before the promotion from National League North the last 2 times people would have said that financially we would be better off in the National League as there is more crowds, more sponsorship etc. The facts have proved that assumption wrong both times.

If the club was set up to exploit all the opportunities for increased revenue that might come from promotion then in the short term it might be ok - but I think that is the major problem I foresee - the club is not ready off the pitch for promotion (the same as it wasnt in 2009).

All about opinions though isnt it.
Players wages minimal, Travel around the same maybe less, off field staff the same, training the same we are already full time. Change in income from the FL compared to the NL massive.
Where is the massive change in income coming from?

Re: Maidstone Match Thread

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 11:16 pm
by Steelworks End
dave mufc wrote:Firstly as a Maidstone fan i would like to say well done to your supporters who made the trip.Then would like to say sorry to the few who seemed to be getting regular aggro from our stewards.Speaking with some of your fans we need to learn a lesson and quickly.Also one your female fans had a fall hope she is ok and not badly hurt.Good luck for rest of season
It's was an enjoyable day out, and we were beaten by the form team so no complaints.

Positives from your setup were the clubhouse (packed, but no problem getting served), the bar behind the terrace, and the variety of refreshments available - including a sweet shop! Also the "no segregation" led to a good atmosphere, a few idiots (on both sides) apart.

Hopefully we'll meet again next season - unless we get promoted of course!.

Re: Maidstone Match Thread

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 6:33 pm
by barrowaberdeen
dave mufc wrote:Firstly as a Maidstone fan i would like to say well done to your supporters who made the trip.Then would like to say sorry to the few who seemed to be getting regular aggro from our stewards.Speaking with some of your fans we need to learn a lesson and quickly.Also one your female fans had a fall hope she is ok and not badly hurt.Good luck for rest of season
Thank you..Angela is on this forum and somehow managed to drive home..will take more than a fall to stop her, she's in Worthing so not quite the trek on Saturday but goes everywhere.

Ive seen worse stewards except for the ridiculous taking out of the lad filming who does it everywhere...enjoyed the day..good set up with bars etc although I prefer segregation. I liked the lads who were at the end we were at 2nd half..could tell they'd been going a while. Good luck with it all. We'll be back to The Flowerpot

Re: Maidstone Match Thread

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 8:21 pm
by DIXIE
Londonblue wrote:
DIXIE wrote: Players wages minimal, Travel around the same maybe less, off field staff the same, training the same we are already full time. Change in income from the FL compared to the NL massive.
Where is the massive change in income coming from?
The Football League.

Re: Maidstone Match Thread

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 8:23 pm
by DIXIE
Stephen Leonard wrote:
DIXIE wrote: Players wages minimal, Travel around the same maybe less, off field staff the same, training the same we are already full time. Change in income from the FL compared to the NL massive.
Ok - I've obviously got it all wrong - seems it's much simpler than I thought to run a football club based on your 'facts'
I'll bow out of the debate before I embarrass myself more with incorrect ideas :?
Stephen i am just saying that there will be no dramatic increase in our costs, or are you saying that i am missing something ?

Re: Maidstone Match Thread

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 8:25 pm
by DIXIE
geobarrovian wrote:
DIXIE wrote: Players wages minimal, Travel around the same maybe less, off field staff the same, training the same we are already full time. Change in income from the FL compared to the NL massive.
Well this is a massive oversimplification
Why? I do not understand elaborate please.