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Suffolk Blue wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 1:29 pm Someone has the plot Redweb. Maybe we have just temporarily mislaid it.

But to answer your question all "serious" proposals that I have come across to date that do not involve voiding the season require the declaring of a winner. As far as I know there is no regulation in any of the Leagues involved that would allow for a team that finishes first (i.e. the winner) to be put into a play-off (i.e. the runners up). This is probably the reason that some are prepared to believe that this process is so badly messed up that it could actually happen.

NORTHERNSOUL wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 2:04 pm

Suffolk Blue wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 1:29 pm Someone has the plot Redweb. Maybe we have just temporarily mislaid it.

But to answer your question all "serious" proposals that I have come across to date that do not involve voiding the season require the declaring of a winner. As far as I know there is no regulation in any of the Leagues involved that would allow for a team that finishes first (i.e. the winner) to be put into a play-off (i.e. the runners up). This is probably the reason that some are prepared to believe that this process is so badly messed up that it could actually happen.

From what I was told this morning no ones lost the plot and it all adds up perfectly even down to the silence coming out of HS.

Not going to go into detail just get but let's say meetings took place this week that wouldn't have taken place unless Barrows place in League Two was absolutely certain.

Suffolk Blue wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 1:29 pm Someone has the plot Redweb. Maybe we have just temporarily mislaid it.

But to answer your question all "serious" proposals that I have come across to date that do not involve voiding the season require the declaring of a winner. As far as I know there is no regulation in any of the Leagues involved that would allow for a team that finishes first (i.e. the winner) to be put into a play-off (i.e. the runners up). This is probably the reason that some are prepared to believe that this process is so badly messed up that it could actually happen.

deadly wealdstone wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 5:22 pm Whilst we are in the realm of increasingly strange proposals, is there is anything stopping all the various play-offs, right down to our level for example, being played as a prelude to next season starting (whenever that may be), as opposed to say in a month's time?

blue nige wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 5:19 pm The National League prepared to wait until the EFL is resolved (8th June) to make its final decision. Play offs remain a possibility and the Board keen to protect 2 promotion places into the EFL. Would want to follow L2 model of finishing the season with PPG and the play offs.

Ian Dennis BBC

russell_anderson wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 4:50 pm

Suffolk Blue wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 1:29 pm Someone has the plot Redweb. Maybe we have just temporarily mislaid it.

But to answer your question all "serious" proposals that I have come across to date that do not involve voiding the season require the declaring of a winner. As far as I know there is no regulation in any of the Leagues involved that would allow for a team that finishes first (i.e. the winner) to be put into a play-off (i.e. the runners up). This is probably the reason that some are prepared to believe that this process is so badly messed up that it could actually happen.

I disagree, SB. I've read the Tranmere proposal very closely and it only specifies automatic promotion for any team leading the Division which is still leading after reducing it's PPG by the minus factor and adding the plus factor to the team currently second in the league. The proposal also applies to any EFL Division which chooses not to play the remaining matches which will almost certainly be Divisions 1 and 2. The proposal is not for the National League but in the first proposal option no team from Division 2 would be relegated but Division 2 would be short of 2 teams as 3 teams would be promoted to Division 1 with none relegated and in the second option Division 2 would also probably be short of 2 teams as only 1 team would normally be promoted and as Stevenage adjusted with plus factor would have a better PPG than Macclesfield adjusted with minus factor then no team would be relegated under that option either.

Suffolk Blue wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 5:48 pm

russell_anderson wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 4:50 pm I disagree, SB. I've read the Tranmere proposal very closely and it only specifies automatic promotion for any team leading the Division which is still leading after reducing it's PPG by the minus factor and adding the plus factor to the team currently second in the league. The proposal also applies to any EFL Division which chooses not to play the remaining matches which will almost certainly be Divisions 1 and 2. The proposal is not for the National League but in the first proposal option no team from Division 2 would be relegated but Division 2 would be short of 2 teams as 3 teams would be promoted to Division 1 with none relegated and in the second option Division 2 would also probably be short of 2 teams as only 1 team would normally be promoted and as Stevenage adjusted with plus factor would have a better PPG than Macclesfield adjusted with minus factor then no team would be relegated under that option either.

You've clearly done your homework Russ. So I will submit to your superior knowledge.