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Re: Jolley out

Post by Il Metronomo » Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:02 pm

CH BAFC wrote: Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:29 pmPoints at the time of posting, nice of you to dig up my past postings, I've been negative like alot and hold my hands up but I'm still holding my hope if it was different were fans in the ground. Try again, weak argument from a "member".
I wasn't making an argument... I was highlighting your hypocrisy. Quite successfully so little need for me to try again.

If I ever start criticising people for doing things that I'm guilty of then by all means call me out on it.
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Re: Jolley out

Post by CH BAFC » Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:03 pm

Walneywanderer1979 wrote: Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:42 pm The way its going most of us won't get the chance to watch us live in a football league game
Do feel sorry for those who didn't see the s*unthorpe and Cheltenham games.....
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Re: Jolley out

Post by CH BAFC » Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:04 pm

Il Metronomo wrote: Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:02 pm
CH BAFC wrote: Sat Feb 20, 2021 10:29 pmPoints at the time of posting, nice of you to dig up my past postings, I've been negative like alot and hold my hands up but I'm still holding my hope if it was different were fans in the ground. Try again, weak argument from a "member".
I wasn't making an argument... I was highlighting your hypocrisy. Quite successfully so little need for me to try again.
Hypocrisy is denying fact.... I owned up, meaning you're making an argument of nothing, also nice edits there. #backtoschool
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Re: Jolley out

Post by Il Metronomo » Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:15 pm

Hypocrisy isn't denying fact, you may be thinking of denialism.

hypocrisy
noun
the practice of claiming to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case.

Let's leave it there, an utterly pointless back-and-forth.

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Re: Jolley out

Post by CH BAFC » Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:17 pm

Il Metronomo wrote: Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:15 pm Hypocrisy isn't denying fact, you may be thinking of denialism.

hypocrisy
noun
the practice of claiming to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case.

Let's leave it there, an utterly pointless back-and-forth.
Nah lets not, you started this, seen as its a war of the oxford dictionary..... lemme get my thesaurus.
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Re: Jolley out

Post by Pedro » Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:52 pm

Should never have been appointed purely for his record in Scotland and Grimsby.
Obviously took some of the players words that they are footballer without checking.
But like Johnson good wordsmith but poor on delivery.
If we go down its our own fault.
He should be shown the door ,Kelly does not want the job but maybe him ,Jason Taylor,Quigley could form a management team for the games left.
I thought Norman Bodell was bad.
Listening to the interview on Radio Cumbria ,the bucks stops with him solely.

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Re: Jolley out

Post by CH BAFC » Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:01 am

Pedro wrote: Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:52 pm Should never have been appointed purely for his record in Scotland and Grimsby.
Obviously took some of the players words that they are footballer without checking.
But like Johnson good wordsmith but poor on delivery.
If we go down its our own fault.
He should be shown the door ,Kelly does not want the job but maybe him ,Jason Taylor,Quigley could form a management team for the games left.
I thought Norman Bodell was bad.
Listening to the interview on Radio Cumbria ,the bucks stops with him solely.
HE'S BACK!
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Re: Jolley out

Post by Jonty » Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:24 am

50 years on and poor old Norman Bodell is still getting it get from Pedro. Time to let it go.
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Re: Jolley out

Post by Pedro » Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:30 am

CH BAFC wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:01 am
Pedro wrote: Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:52 pm Should never have been appointed purely for his record in Scotland and Grimsby.
Obviously took some of the players words that they are footballer without checking.
But like Johnson good wordsmith but poor on delivery.
If we go down its our own fault.
He should be shown the door ,Kelly does not want the job but maybe him ,Jason Taylor,Quigley could form a management team for the games left.
I thought Norman Bodell was bad.
Listening to the interview on Radio Cumbria ,the bucks stops with him solely.
HE'S BACK!
Sorry I've always been here and will be there if we go down.

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Re: Jolley out

Post by Pedro » Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:32 am

Jonty wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:24 am 50 years on and poor old Norman Bodell is still getting it get from Pedro. Time to let it go.
Sorry it's history otherwise I would be called Pol Pott.

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Re: Jolley out

Post by liverpoolann » Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:40 am

Pedro wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:30 am
CH BAFC wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:01 am

HE'S BACK!
Sorry I've always been here and will be there if we go down.
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Re: Jolley out

Post by blue nige » Sun Feb 21, 2021 10:42 am

much as I am p****d off by all this I can't see how getting rid of Jolley now will change anything (apart from attacking more 😂).
whoever took over had a massive problem we're stuck with no decent forwards midfielder's ,then there's getting players to come here in our predicament it would be a hard sell at best!
yes I personally think we should have signed better players but at what cost?
the damage that Dunn's recruitment did destroyed everything we've done over the past 2 seasons, if we did decide to get rid of Jolley what does that do to the attitude of the players he's brought in and what messages does that send out to other players that we might want to sign next season?
listen I'm like everyone else totally depressed about all this and I can't even take it out of the linesman!🤣.
we now need to listen to the board because I'm 100% worried about the future finances if we go down, we're taking a £800,000 hit this year, with smaller crowds , even with parachute payments probably another £600,000 down on what we would have to go with in our budget if we were still in the EFL next season!
So now is not the time to make rash decisions you never know sometimes strange things happen, we might stay up ( but I wouldn't bet on it !) :scarf:

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Re: Jolley out

Post by holkerboy » Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:49 am

The money he spent on 9 players of dubious quality could have been used to buy at least one decent forward and midfielder, but what's done is done and we are stuck with it.
It is now up to him to show us all what is can get out of those nine he brought in.

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Post by HenneysKnee » Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:27 pm

holkerboy wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:49 am The money he spent on 9 players of dubious quality could have been used to buy at least one decent forward and midfielder, but what's done is done and we are stuck with it.
It is now up to him to show us all what is can get out of those nine he brought in.
Where was the new striker at yesterday?

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Re: Jolley out

Post by Jim » Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:37 pm

blue nige wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 10:42 am
the damage that Dunn's recruitment did destroyed everything we've done over the past 2 seasons,
The root cause of our present predicament was Evatt baling out and leaving us in the lurch. I am grateful that he won us promotion, but I feel very bad that he moved on at the first opportunity (or perhaps it was the second, bearing in mind the Fylde saga). If he had stayed, that team, with two or three strategic additions, would have done OK in this league.

We can criticise the appointment of Dunn and Jolley and we can criticise the choice of signings by both managers, but we don't know what constraints the Board were under regarding what was affordable. Perhaps we could not attract a manager with a proven track record in L2 or L1, like some of the names that have been bandied about on this forum from time to time.

Even Jolley's signings might have been the only ones that met the criteria of being experienced but affordable. As someone pointed out, several of them were coming back after injury absences and/or not wanted by their present clubs. Not ideal, but perhaps they were the best we could get. In any case, I don't think we should write them off yet as bad signings after only a few games, especially with the on/off nature of our recent fixtures.

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