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ForTheGlory wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 9:10 pm Frazer Stewart (Regarding the new stands): "They're not open today as we're working with the council on various licensing agreements. We haven't got a time frame yet but it's going really well, the main stand is open today."

If they don't get these agreements sorted out before the start of the season, will we be penalised for not having 2000 seats available?

I think twitter missed some of it.

Hornby also stated it was a 1.5 million loss last season but he's predicting it to be between 500 - 700k this season.

Hornby also stated the next part of the ground they will look at will be the popular side. No time frame or plans given.

Tony Shearer also mentioned that they are still looking for further investors to invest in the club.

bluessupporter wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 11:46 pm

ForTheGlory wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 9:10 pm Frazer Stewart (Regarding the new stands): "They're not open today as we're working with the council on various licensing agreements. We haven't got a time frame yet but it's going really well, the main stand is open today."

If they don't get these agreements sorted out before the start of the season, will we be penalised for not having 2000 seats available?

This is one of the scenarios that I find perturbing for the future. Decisions are now being made by the council from afar not, locally, which to me 'could' well lead to a lack of empathy.

ForTheGlory wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 9:10 pm Frazer Stewart (Regarding the new stands): "They're not open today as we're working with the council on various licensing agreements. We haven't got a time frame yet but it's going really well, the main stand is open today."

Ready for Blackpool, or are they getting Holker Street end too ?

2 doors up wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2023 10:48 am

ForTheGlory wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 9:10 pm Frazer Stewart (Regarding the new stands): "They're not open today as we're working with the council on various licensing agreements. We haven't got a time frame yet but it's going really well, the main stand is open today."

Ready for Blackpool, or are they getting Holker Street end too ?

It wont be ready for Blackpool and them getting the holker street end probably depends on demand from their supporters. We have until August 12th to dot the Is cross the Ts and get all the ticks in the boxes to use the new stands that nearly a month. Club are more than pleased with progress and all will be in order within time and confident all will be done so no problem.

mall wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2023 10:13 am

bluessupporter wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 11:46 pm

If they don't get these agreements sorted out before the start of the season, will we be penalised for not having 2000 seats available?

This is one of the scenarios that I find perturbing for the future. Decisions are now being made by the council from afar not, locally, which to me 'could' well lead to a lack of empathy.

I take your point but my understanding is the club put in their application very late in order for it to be passed in time. AFAIK the decisions will be made by the same people in Barrow planning office that were employed there pre W&F. I am sure they will do all they can to get the matter sorted out between the council and the club. Here's hoping!

barrowfan_chris wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2023 9:45 am I think twitter missed some of it.

Hornby also stated it was a 1.5 million loss last season but he's predicting it to be between 500 - 700k this season.

Hornby also stated the next part of the ground they will look at will be the popular side. No time frame or plans given.

Tony Shearer also mentioned that they are still looking for further investors to invest in the club.

Wow eye watering figures this to be losing year on year! What’s the solution, how can we sustain these losses. Do we simply rely on kind hearted owners…..scary.

Can’t imagine many clubs run on a profit. Clubs loose X amount over a season and the owner puts that cash in. Plus we’ve had to spend and spend to bring the ground up to EFL standard

mickycarrol wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2023 3:58 pm

barrowfan_chris wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2023 9:45 am I think twitter missed some of it.

Hornby also stated it was a 1.5 million loss last season but he's predicting it to be between 500 - 700k this season.

Hornby also stated the next part of the ground they will look at will be the popular side. No time frame or plans given.

Tony Shearer also mentioned that they are still looking for further investors to invest in the club.

Wow eye watering figures this to be losing year on year! What’s the solution, how can we sustain these losses. Do we simply rely on kind hearted owners…..scary.

Yes it’s a big sum of money, Take it in the current context then it isn’t as big a problem that you “Might” think it is, We we’re always going to be in debt as we have to pay for all the League requirements, We have just about completed everything now so it’s all paying it down with the increased away numbers expected & hopefully more home numbers as we build up our fan base & the increased spending within the ground due to all the extra few Tea huts & away bar & fan zone etc

Planned serviceable debt to drive you forwards.

Huge well done to the BoD

mickmike wilson wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2023 4:23 pm

mickycarrol wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2023 3:58 pm
Wow eye watering figures this to be losing year on year! What’s the solution, how can we sustain these losses. Do we simply rely on kind hearted owners…..scary.

Yes it’s a big sum of money, Take it in the current context then it isn’t as big a problem that you “Might” think it is, We we’re always going to be in debt as we have to pay for all the League requirements, We have just about completed everything now so it’s all paying it down with the increased away numbers expected & hopefully more home numbers as we build up our fan base & the increased spending within the ground due to all the extra few Tea huts & away bar & fan zone etc

Planned serviceable debt to drive you forwards.

Huge well done to the BoD

Agreed... It's a huge risk but we are in safe hands and with a plan too, we are in a far better situation than most in football. We do need more locals to jump on the bluebird bus and it would be another milestone when we start filling the ground week on week as we push away upwards!
Growing up and hearing of the 16000 fans crammed in our little old stadium is something I would love to see again... Yes we are a long way from that but to see the gates as they are is mind bending, bearing in mind the nights when we stood barely breaking a 1000!!
What we are all seeing currently is what we all have wanted for so many years, let's embrace this momentum and keep building as one!

Unbelievable that the club has to stretch themselves financially in order to satisfy EFL ground requirements that don’t seem to have any basis other than thou must have 2000 seats. It’s easy to see how a club can get into financial difficulties.

The money this group have spent just trying to make up for 48 years of little to no investment in the infrastructure.

Have a listen to the latest “Out of the Blue” podcast and there is an interesting piece about how much Carlisle are paying to service their debt - about £15,000 a month if I recall correctly? By comparison I imagine we are in a much better position.

Bakewell Blue wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2023 6:11 pm Have a listen to the latest “Out of the Blue” podcast and there is an interesting piece about how much Carlisle are paying to service their debt - about £15,000 a month if I recall correctly? By comparison I imagine we are in a much better position.

The future of that club seems to hang on how much Man United sell Dean Henderson for.

Jonty wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2023 5:56 pm Unbelievable that the club has to stretch themselves financially in order to satisfy EFL ground requirements that don’t seem to have any basis other than thou must have 2000 seats. It’s easy to see how a club can get into financial difficulties.

The money this group have spent just trying to make up for 48 years of little to no investment in the infrastructure.

In a way I see it as a good thing going forwards as each ground is literally forced to modernise & those who want to dine at the top table have to follow the dress code so to speak.

We all have minimum standards to follow & the way I look at it is we are spending money to speculate & whenever the bigger games & cup games come around we will generate far more financially due to the many more & easier ways to part with yer cash & the infrastructure will last us a long time thus benefiting those who come after us.

mickmike wilson wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2023 7:30 pm

Jonty wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2023 5:56 pm Unbelievable that the club has to stretch themselves financially in order to satisfy EFL ground requirements that don’t seem to have any basis other than thou must have 2000 seats. It’s easy to see how a club can get into financial difficulties.

The money this group have spent just trying to make up for 48 years of little to no investment in the infrastructure.

In a way I see it as a good thing going forwards as each ground is literally forced to modernise & those who want to dine at the top table have to follow the dress code so to speak.

We all have minimum standards to follow & the way I look at it is we are spending money to speculate & whenever the bigger games & cup games come around we will generate far more financially due to the many more & easier ways to part with yer cash & the infrastructure will last us a long time thus benefiting those who come after us.

“Forced” is the key word you’ve used. It’s a nonsense requirement. Have you seen how much loss we have reported? How much of that is down to having to put money in to satisfy this seating requirement. I’m all for ground upgrades - but to have do it by a certain time places enormous financial burden on the club.