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Re: Home v Bradford City

Post by Sea Dog Sam » Tue Feb 27, 2024 11:02 am

HenneysKnee wrote: Mon Feb 26, 2024 10:36 am
Van Der Nipper wrote: Mon Feb 26, 2024 8:28 am The pitch is being ripped up in June.
Is there a concert on again this summer? Seems late to be doing that
With regard to concerts and everything else that goes on at Craven Park: Apparently, RL officials have received complaints from opposing teams regarding the egg chasers pitch last season. RL governing body are going to be keeping a close eye on things this season. When you think that players are being constantly thrown onto that surface, it's no wonder.

No need for concerts there - and deffo NOT at Holker Street. I remember the times when Furness Live Music promoted the annual summer fest in the Furness Amphithteatre. I attended and also performed there in bands. That's THE place for concerts! :D
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Re: Home v Bradford City

Post by Main Stand SeasonTct » Tue Feb 27, 2024 11:28 am

Sea Dog Sam wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 11:02 am
HenneysKnee wrote: Mon Feb 26, 2024 10:36 am

Is there a concert on again this summer? Seems late to be doing that
With regard to concerts and everything else that goes on at Craven Park: Apparently, RL officials have received complaints from opposing teams regarding the egg chasers pitch last season. RL governing body are going to be keeping a close eye on things this season. When you think that players are being constantly thrown onto that surface, it's no wonder.

No need for concerts there - and deffo NOT at Holker Street. I remember the times when Furness Live Music promoted the annual summer fest in the Furness Amphithteatre. I attended and also performed there in bands. That's THE place for concerts! :D
NOT Sports Stadiums
I see no issue in using the stadium for a concert providing its scheduled straight after the season has finished giving ample time for the pitch to be made ready for the upcoming season. The problem this season was that due to the new stands being built unlike previous seasons there was no money to spend on the pitch last close season. Other income streams need to be developed and other than football the ground needs to be used to make money to help move towards a sustainable model.
The issue for the rugby is not the summer events it's the fact that from the start of the year they have three teams all training and playing matches on the same surface The first team the ladies team and the development academy.
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Re: Home v Bradford City

Post by Suffolk Blue » Tue Feb 27, 2024 11:51 am

Just getting back to the postponement for a moment.

I've looked at the FA guidelines on pitch inspections and as you might expect it gives a great deal of interesting if not necessarily pertinent advice to refs at all levels about how to assess the pitch. As has already been stated many times above however, the referee doesn't appear to be accountable for the decisions made or when they are made (though guidelines state they should be mindful of travelling fans). As long as a reason is given then the decision is the decision. It can be as subjective as you like partly because referees have quite clearly no qualifications or accreditations in assessing ground quality. If this were the case then asking an independent groundsman to make the decision would be a better solution.

And as far as I'm aware referees assessors confine their criticisms to the refs on field performance. Finally, to let a game that should not have been allowed to proceed to do so probably creates a higher level of potential risk in the mind of most referees than to prevent a game from starting that is considered marginal. When all else fails, wave the risk card - subjectively of course and without doing any visible risk assessment.

However two factors were in play on Saturday that could have changed or possibly avoided the mess that ensued. Firstly I believe the ref was staying in the town overnight and therefore could have made an earlier pitch inspection if he had turned up. Secondly and to some extent in defence of that, the ref would claim that he was not requested to inspect the pitch by BAFC, who believed that there was no need to do so.

Without trying to apportion any blame for what may therefore have been the product of an innocent if avoidable shambles and given the known state of the pitch for the foreseeable, would it not be prudent on the part of the club for each of our remaining home games (or at least those taking place in the next few weeks) to insist/automatically request an initial inspection to be done at a time in keeping with the scheduled kick-off time and the distance to be travelled by away supporters? Clearly if this means a local referee has to be involved before the match officials turn up then so be it.

This is not the first time that the club has found itself at odds with a referee on what constitutes a playable pitch. No doubt our ground staff had indicated that in their view the pitch was playable. What this shows however is that view even if made by an experienced professional with an intimate knowledge of the playing surface is sadly irrelevant. You cannot make a referee accountable but you can make them overtly responsible. Or am I completely missing something?

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Re: Home v Bradford City

Post by bhbb » Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:35 pm

AFC Blue wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 6:30 am
HenneysKnee wrote: Mon Feb 26, 2024 10:36 am

Is there a concert on again this summer? Seems late to be doing that
There is no concert this year
No shock after last years disaster.

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Re: Home v Bradford City

Post by behind the goals » Tue Feb 27, 2024 1:30 pm

bhbb wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:35 pm
AFC Blue wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 6:30 am

There is no concert this year
No shock after last years disaster.
Hopefully if true start work on the pitch shortly after our last home game and give Gareth and ground staff the best chance to get it back to its best, but if Gareth thinks starting work in June is fine with him then who are we to argue against him.

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Re: Home v Bradford City

Post by Big_Bluebird » Tue Feb 27, 2024 2:55 pm

behind the goals wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 1:30 pm
bhbb wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:35 pm

No shock after last years disaster.
Hopefully if true start work on the pitch shortly after our last home game and give Gareth and ground staff the best chance to get it back to its best, but if Gareth thinks starting work in June is fine with him then who are we to argue against him.
Hopefully the works starts after our play off home leg 😁

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Re: Home v Bradford City

Post by Wintergreen » Wed Feb 28, 2024 6:16 pm

I know Gareth is a ‘resident’ type groundsman but isn’t the maintenance carried out by a contract firm from the Manchester area?
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Re: Home v Bradford City

Post by McMark » Wed Feb 28, 2024 6:39 pm

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Could always go for the Bradford City look 👀
Yes it’s definitely contracted out WG.
Hearing we are building a nesting site for the nearby geese population closed season in the hope that we attract the goose that lays the golden egg to pay for the work required.

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Re: Home v Bradford City

Post by saltcellar » Wed Feb 28, 2024 6:57 pm

McMark wrote: Wed Feb 28, 2024 6:39 pm IMG_2297.jpeg
Could always go for the Bradford City look 👀
Yes it’s definitely contracted out WG.
Hearing we are building a nesting site for the nearby geese population closed season in the hope that we attract the goose that lays the golden egg to pay for the work required.
Should be "Cheep - Cheep" with all the sandy beaches round here Mark.

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Re: Home v Bradford City

Post by behind the goals » Thu Feb 29, 2024 12:05 pm

Rearranged for April 9th

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Re: Home v Bradford City

Post by Adam29 » Thu Feb 29, 2024 1:03 pm

7 home games in 35days from March 5th - April 9th

Also means that out of our final 13 games
7 out of the next 10 are all at home

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Re: Home v Bradford City

Post by sambino » Thu Feb 29, 2024 1:27 pm

Adam29 wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 1:03 pm 7 home games in 35days from March 5th - April 9th

Also means that out of our final 13 games
7 out of the next 10 are all at home
Hope March is dry !!!

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Re: Home v Bradford City

Post by bluessupporter » Thu Feb 29, 2024 3:51 pm

sambino wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 1:27 pm
Adam29 wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 1:03 pm 7 home games in 35days from March 5th - April 9th

Also means that out of our final 13 games
7 out of the next 10 are all at home
Hope March is dry !!!
Hope people also have enough money to attend them all in such a short space of time.

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Re: Home v Bradford City

Post by Big_Bluebird » Thu Feb 29, 2024 5:57 pm

bluessupporter wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 3:51 pm
sambino wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 1:27 pm

Hope March is dry !!!
Hope people also have enough money to attend them all in such a short space of time.
A ticket offer wouldn’t go a miss

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Re: Home v Bradford City

Post by Methuselah » Thu Feb 29, 2024 6:10 pm

A lot of people have already bought season tickets,so that would do nothing for season ticket holders or the club but I suppose as a way off getting more people in it may work.How much do you think they should be reduced to?

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