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barrowfan wrote:

The Real Slim a former member of this forum wrote:
Just close your eyes for a second, take a deep breath and imagine Casson pulling his money at midnight tonight.

And just close YOUR eyes and ask where we would would be if Mr Casson HADN'T put his money in. Out of existence !

and why would we have been potentially put out of existence? As a result of poor infrastructure and low crowds X by money not being spent correctly over a prolonged period of time.

Which should shine on as a warning to prevent that from happening again shouldn't it?

Stephen Leonard wrote: Cup runs masked the true problems and I remember sitting in 3 AGM's telling members the underlying problems but generally no one was concerned because Brentford, Middlesbrough, Sunderland, Wembley was all that the fans (understandably in many ways) were really interested in.

This is exactly what is happening again.

Play off chasing and Cup runs.

Steeley wrote:

barrowfan wrote:
And just close YOUR eyes and ask where we would would be if Mr Casson HADN'T put his money in. Out of existence !

Evo stick

Half way down trying to consolidate on crowds of 600. Too many would have lost heart IMO

I agree with a lot of a former member of this forum's points but we did the right thing and it's hardly all doom and gloom.

The other thing is PC has put a lot into not very exciting but necessary parts of the club, things like the boiler, stand painting etc that Iain lists, . Folk get paid, although like most football clubs I bet we don't always pay quickly which will irritate the life out of small businesses.

Also the club is making some investment with the Performance Centre. Coaches are paid for by parental contributions (I disagree with that but it's fairly common everywhere else too) but all the rest, transport, kits, hire of pitches etc has seen more investment, with some grants applied for and some contributions from the Trust/Youth Raffle supporting this. There's lots of different opportunities with kids, the community side are doing well, also supported by grants here and there.

It's been said a lot before but a lot of what PC thought would be easy, due to land issues, structural issues, planning issues are harder than they appeared. That's why we have the 'strategy' we have, which to me is decent investment in wages, fix what needs done urgently off the park, try and improve the marketing (patchy) and community (better) sides of the club. The trouble is none of that is likely to get a head of steam up in the town (less bothered) and is also not the brave new dawn we were all told, which makes the people who care about the club way too much (ie regular fans) nervous. This then breeds negativity which washes around the area like the shite that never makes it out of Walney Channel out to sea.

So, although I agree about the issues, can we not make a bit more effort to at least enjoy some facts just now? Near play offs, trophy quarters and third round of FA Cup. It is possible to be happy without being a happy clapper.

barrowaberdeen wrote:[
So, although I agree about the issues, can we not make a bit more effort to at least enjoy some facts just now? Near play offs, trophy quarters and third round of FA Cup. It is possible to be happy without being a happy clapper.

Spot on!

barrowfan wrote:

barrowaberdeen wrote:[
So, although I agree about the issues, can we not make a bit more effort to at least enjoy some facts just now? Near play offs, trophy quarters and third round of FA Cup. It is possible to be happy without being a happy clapper.

Spot on!

Steve you are right in what you say about enjoying the current situation (although it seems many are not) but also I would add that isn't it possible to be constructively critical without being dismissed as 'negative or ungrateful'

It isn't about black and white - the reality is one of many shades of grey!!

Absolutely! Maybe 'frustration and concern' is a better way of outting it than negativity. Anyone on here loves Barrow Soccer..warts and alll and would be there if it went wrong.

The Real Slim a former member of this forum wrote:Not sticking up for him but, let's not forget that stand Vaughan built for us. Fair enough, in retrospect he was the worst person in the history of the club. He still built us that stand though.

It's a shame that he just never paid for it.

Ralph wrote:

The Real Slim a former member of this forum wrote:Not sticking up for him but, let's not forget that stand Vaughan built for us. Fair enough, in retrospect he was the worst person in the history of the club. He still built us that stand though.

It's a shame that he just never paid for it.

Spot on Ralph

Ralph wrote:

The Real Slim a former member of this forum wrote:Not sticking up for him but, let's not forget that stand Vaughan built for us. Fair enough, in retrospect he was the worst person in the history of the club. He still built us that stand though.

It's a shame that he just never paid for it.

Well that sounds ideal - stands that you don't have to pay for; lets have some more!

Stephen Leonard wrote:

barrowfan wrote:
Spot on!

Steve you are right in what you say about enjoying the current situation (although it seems many are not) but also I would add that isn't it possible to be constructively critical without being dismissed as 'negative or ungrateful'

It isn't about black and white - the reality is one of many shades of grey!!

Agree with this.

barrowaberdeen wrote:Absolutely! Maybe 'frustration and concern' is a better way of outting it than negativity. Anyone on here loves Barrow Soccer..warts and alll and would be there if it went wrong.

H.O.B. Mighty Stags,

mickmike wilson wrote:

barrowaberdeen wrote:Absolutely! Maybe 'frustration and concern' is a better way of outting it than negativity. Anyone on here loves Barrow Soccer..warts and alll and would be there if it went wrong.

H.O.B. Mighty Stags,

Never! Barrow till I die

finbar17 wrote:

mickmike wilson wrote:
H.O.B. Mighty Stags,

Never! Barrow till I die

I replied jokingly to Steve's quip of if we were potentially (NO MORE)

The Real Slim a former member of this forum wrote:

olbarrafancumbak wrote:
Absolutely.. it will take time and I would rather it does than rush in and go tits up risking the future of the club.. I do think that promotion will give us far better opportunities for sponsorship, potential new investment, grants, funding etc etc..

It will take time, but its been 3 years now. Promises were made and very little has been put in place.

A decent and expensive playing staff has been put in place.

The Real Slim a former member of this forum wrote:

olbarrafancumbak wrote:Perhaps if Mr C could enlighten us a little it would go a long way?

This is it, with him being away most of the time and no one really at the club in any capacity to announce or sort anything out then its all very quiet.

The club needs a general manager in place or failing that an actual Chief Exec.

Absolute rubbish, PC talks to the media on a regular basis and spends much more time in LA14 than i ever expected.