The Darren Edmondson Thread

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Re: The Darren Edmondson Thread

Post by GTBLUE » Mon Aug 31, 2015 6:53 pm

Big E wrote:Unless Elliot had a knock from the tackle Sat it does seem odd for him not to make the bench even?

There seems a similar patter to last year developing here - tinkering like last year until the FA cup defeat when it seemed PC had a word... perhaps it's time for the chairman to make another call.
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Re: The Darren Edmondson Thread

Post by saltcellar » Mon Aug 31, 2015 7:03 pm

Edmondson said Elliott Newby was fit but he is not physical enough (Bit light) at the moment.

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Re: The Darren Edmondson Thread

Post by Bingo » Mon Aug 31, 2015 7:08 pm

Big E wrote:Similarities to last season - tinkering perhaps when not needed, unless injuries are the reason.

Guess it's not time to hit the panic button yet - but worrying early signs...
It was the same starting 11 as Saturday so no tinkering went on - maybe if you have two games in 48 hours you should tinker a little bit

People hit the panic button when we didn't sign Messi in the summer - 7 games in not great but 39 games to go yet - we could finish up on 124 points yet

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Re: The Darren Edmondson Thread

Post by barrowfan » Mon Aug 31, 2015 7:11 pm

saltcellar wrote:Edmondson said Elliott Newby was fit but he is not physical enough (Bit light) at the moment.
So what does he plan to do? Fatten him up? Surely this is a waste of resources.

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Post by The Real Slim Azza » Mon Aug 31, 2015 7:15 pm

He wasnt too light in pre season when he was banging em in every game
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Post by Jonty » Mon Aug 31, 2015 7:27 pm

We have conceded more than any other team and it appears we have totally collapsed today. You could argue that at 1-0 up and in control he should be able to comfortably make changes during the game. Surely swapping Walker for Grimes shouldn't upset the balance that much- in fact fresh legs to go and get that second goal. Something is not right with the defending and if teams put any sort of a squeeze on us we go into panic mode- we are dreadful at defending set pieces. It needs to be sorted out or else we are going to get sucked into that mire. I did think Newby would feature at some point today and can only imagine he was out due to that tackle on Sat. If not then I have no idea why he would be left out.
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Re: The Darren Edmondson Thread

Post by GTBLUE » Mon Aug 31, 2015 7:49 pm

barrowfan wrote:
saltcellar wrote:Edmondson said Elliott Newby was fit but he is not physical enough (Bit light) at the moment.
So what does he plan to do? Fatten him up? Surely this is a waste of resources.
Jason Walker is a skinny little ginger and he's done ok for a number of years. Edmo, you talk out of your arse sometimes, sorry .

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Re: The Darren Edmondson Thread

Post by mickmike wilson » Mon Aug 31, 2015 8:13 pm

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barrowfan wrote: So what does he plan to do? Fatten him up? Surely this is a waste of resources.
Jason Walker is a skinny little ginger and he's done ok for a number of years. Edmo, you talk out of your arse sometimes, sorry .
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Re: The Darren Edmondson Thread

Post by mickmike wilson » Mon Aug 31, 2015 8:22 pm

Jonty wrote:We have conceded more than any other team and it appears we have totally collapsed today. You could argue that at 1-0 up and in control he should be able to comfortably make changes during the game. Surely swapping Walker for Grimes shouldn't upset the balance that much- in fact fresh legs to go and get that second goal. Something is not right with the defending and if teams put any sort of a squeeze on us we go into panic mode- we are dreadful at defending set pieces. It needs to be sorted out or else we are going to get sucked into that mire. I did think Newby would feature at some point today and can only imagine he was out due to that tackle on Sat. If not then I have no idea why he would be left out.
Was JW harrying the defenders/midfielders leading them to hurry & get rid by aimlessly wellying it up field then when Grimes came on that stopped giving them an extra second to compose themselves and play better balls out thus leading to a better chance for them downfield.

Defense is suffering a crisis of confidence by conceding shed loads of goals so panic will be a feature until they settle it down, setting deeper & deeper wont help them out during our mini crisis IMO

Emdo dropped him, he's not injured.

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Re: The Darren Edmondson Thread

Post by crossbar » Mon Aug 31, 2015 8:28 pm

Jonty wrote:We have conceded more than any other team and it appears we have totally collapsed today. You could argue that at 1-0 up and in control he should be able to comfortably make changes during the game. Surely swapping Walker for Grimes shouldn't upset the balance that much- in fact fresh legs to go and get that second goal. Something is not right with the defending and if teams put any sort of a squeeze on us we go into panic mode- we are dreadful at defending set pieces. It needs to be sorted out or else we are going to get sucked into that mire. I did think Newby would feature at some point today and can only imagine he was out due to that tackle on Sat. If not then I have no idea why he would be left out.
Bringing Walker off and bringing on Grimes certainly was the turning point today as Walker was having a decent game and causing them problems holding up the ball and linking well with Cook, Grimes came on and the game changed completely. Halifax then pressed and put us on the back foot, as soon as they got their first the writing was on the wall as we collapsed and sat back leaking in three. Edmo must have his own reasons for tinkering but certainly backfired today and not for the first time. Some big questions now over Edmo on selection and tactics !!

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Re: The Darren Edmondson Thread

Post by Wintergreen » Mon Aug 31, 2015 8:38 pm

Hmm, seems a familiar story to Cheltenham away - I wonder what's going on there?
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Re: The Darren Edmondson Thread

Post by popsider » Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:43 pm

Spoke with a league scout at forest green he said the players Edmonson have brought to barrow are just not good enough to even keep us up, if this is the case which it does look he was right the blame is clearly with Edmonson, we have a manager, two assistant managers a fitness coach and heaven knows who else but the players do not look fit enough to play pub football we have a squad of 25 players some of which he brought in and they don't even make the bench very very odd, grimes looked totally uninterested when he came on,we totally ran this game but again could not add to our score, I know people say don't totally blame the manager but he coaches them he brought them in in my opinion he is totally to blame and if he is not replaced soon we will be back in the national north next season. Mr Casson is not getting value for his investment and neither are the supporters, shocking against southport and again today.
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Re: The Darren Edmondson Thread

Post by HenneysKnee » Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:47 pm

Has Grimes done anything yet?

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Re: The Darren Edmondson Thread

Post by The Real Slim Azza » Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:52 pm

HenneysKnee wrote:Has Grimes done anything yet?

Yes, he has been bypassed and sparsely used.


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Re: The Darren Edmondson Thread

Post by Optimism » Mon Aug 31, 2015 10:10 pm

Early days but I've been unimpressed with Grimes' demeanour and attitude so far. Sourcing the opinions of fans from his recent clubs suggest talent but poor work rate.
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