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Re: Zanzala

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 9:46 pm
by Bradders
Heads are rolling at brunton park let’s hope the rain holds off this year.

Re: Zanzala

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 9:47 pm
by HenneysKnee
It’s a good start to Mark Coopers shithousery reign; hopefully he goes and signs Morecambes captain as well

Re: Zanzala

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 9:50 pm
by Chris Benoit
They are going to meltdown if the rumours I heard are true. Heard we are signing Farman and another lad who's name I can't remember (Amari something).

Re: Zanzala

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:01 pm
by Matty
Chris Benoit wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 9:50 pm They are going to meltdown if the rumours I heard are true. Heard we are signing Farman and another lad who's name I can't remember (Amari something).
Just wait until they hear about the lucrative offer we've tabled for Callum Guy.

Re: Zanzala

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:09 pm
by Suffolk Blue
Methuselah wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 9:36 pm Just read the Carlisle Forum and in the whole their supporters seem quite upset that Zanzala has chosen little old Barrow over Carlisle.They seem to think they have a divine right to be the premier club in the county.I just hope we prove them wrong this season.Onwards and upwards. :scarf: :scarf: :scarf:

I've seen worse reactions though it does make me smile when a club like ours manages to turn the tables - for once.

Reality is f course that these actions result from a process of long term decay at Brunton Park rather a dramatic rise in the fortunes of Barrow. Their limitations were exposed if you recall when they tried to purchase John Rooney for a ridiculously low fee a couple of years ago and were told where to go. We have also been kept aware through the postings of supporters such as Northern Soul of the thorough mess that the EWM fiasco has caused at Carlisle.

What probably hurts in this case is that both Zanzala and (if it is true, Farman) were both wanted by Carlisle and offered new contracts so these are not released players and Carlisle have been essentially outbid by the small team down the coast. When we are involved in taking a player from a peer club it always seems to act as an unwelcome reality check for some supporters of that club by bringing out into the open what they might otherwise be able to hide from themselves.

They seem to be having a go at Chris Beech on the Cumbrians website but for the life of me, I cant see that he is to blame unless you believe in the pure magnetism of Mark Coopers personality. I think hes done a pretty decent job with very limited resources. I would be surprised if our budget last season was not higher than Carlisles. He may actually be the one factor holding that club together at the moment. Carlisle have a habit of losing players in the close season and having to essentially rebuild each year. This year will be no different for them.

Re: Zanzala

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:10 pm
by PRR
Life’s a Beech

Re: Zanzala

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:16 pm
by Methuselah
I have just looked at the Carlisle team and the other player that Chris Benoit was trying to think of was Omari Patrick.It looks like our new manager is cherry picking Carlisle's best players if we manage to get Calum Guy as well.Sounds like our new manager means business.Lets hope we start the new season with the intention of turning Holker St into a fortress. :scarf: :scarf: :scarf:

Re: Zanzala

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 11:03 pm
by Suffolk Blue
Methuselah wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:16 pm I have just looked at the Carlisle team and the other player that Chris Benoit was trying to think of was Omari Patrick.It looks like our new manager is cherry picking Carlisle's best players if we manage to get Calum Guy as well.Sounds like our new manager means business.Lets hope we start the new season with the intention of turning Holker St into a fortress. :scarf: :scarf: :scarf:
Alternatives to Carlisle United players are also available.

Re: Zanzala

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 11:14 pm
by Kieran
Suffolk Blue wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:09 pm Reality is f course that these actions result from a process of long term decay at Brunton Park rather a dramatic rise in the fortunes of Barrow.
I'd say winning the National League title and regaining league status after never getting anywhere near previously was a pretty dramatic rise in our fortunes to be fair.

Re: Zanzala

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 11:21 pm
by Methuselah
I tend to like the way Mark Cooper seems to be going after players who have recently played together.It will.be easier for him.to intergrate them into the existing team members rather than a group who have never played together before.These are players who very nearly managed to get Carlisle into the play-offs last season.Let,s hope if he manages to get them they could be the players that make all the difference. :scarf: :scarf: :scarf:

Re: Zanzala

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 11:25 pm
by liverpoolann
Impressed with Zinzala interview he is a polite confident young man and if he plays as well as he speaks he will be fine at Barrow.occasionally have listened to the odd Carlisle game narrators and he is always well spoken of.looking forward to see who comes next and start of the new season.

Re: Zanzala

Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2021 11:39 pm
by Moribund
Main Stand SeasonTct wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 9:35 pm
Moribund wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 9:12 pm

Weren't Carlisle in relegation form from about Christmas? Minus the three best strikers, key centre back, captain and goalkeeper, and then that's surely cause for concern?
There were mitigating circumstances for the loss of form. Carlisle suffered more than most with players testing positive for Covid. That caused a massive fixture backlog and it took them until the last month of the season to get back up to full fitness. On top of that the training ground was out of use due to the severe wet winter. I think they ended up training in Penrith some days and Kendal rugby union on the all weather pitch.
Aye, but those excuses only go so far. Losing five or six key players on top of that can only be detrimental.

Re: Zanzala

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 12:21 am
by Moonie
Suffolk Blue wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:09 pm
Methuselah wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 9:36 pm Just read the Carlisle Forum and in the whole their supporters seem quite upset that Zanzala has chosen little old Barrow over Carlisle.They seem to think they have a divine right to be the premier club in the county.I just hope we prove them wrong this season.Onwards and upwards. :scarf: :scarf: :scarf:

I've seen worse reactions though it does make me smile when a club like ours manages to turn the tables - for once.

Reality is f course that these actions result from a process of long term decay at Brunton Park rather a dramatic rise in the fortunes of Barrow. Their limitations were exposed if you recall when they tried to purchase John Rooney for a ridiculously low fee a couple of years ago and were told where to go. We have also been kept aware through the postings of supporters such as Northern Soul of the thorough mess that the EWM fiasco has caused at Carlisle.

What probably hurts in this case is that both Zanzala and (if it is true, Farman) were both wanted by Carlisle and offered new contracts so these are not released players and Carlisle have been essentially outbid by the small team down the coast. When we are involved in taking a player from a peer club it always seems to act as an unwelcome reality check for some supporters of that club by bringing out into the open what they might otherwise be able to hide from themselves.

They seem to be having a go at Chris Beech on the Cumbrians website but for the life of me, I cant see that he is to blame unless you believe in the pure magnetism of Mark Coopers personality. I think hes done a pretty decent job with very limited resources. I would be surprised if our budget last season was not higher than Carlisles. He may actually be the one factor holding that club together at the moment. Carlisle have a habit of losing players in the close season and having to essentially rebuild each year. This year will be no different for them.
No mass rebuild this year - we usually have to bring in 15-20 players, this year we’re looking for 5 or 6. Like I say, our problems are off the field. Farman will be less of a blow than Zanzala as we have a younger keeper of equal quality in Magnus Norman, and two highly rated keepers coming through the ranks.

Re: Zanzala

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 11:27 am
by Suffolk Blue
Kieran wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 11:14 pm
Suffolk Blue wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:09 pm Reality is f course that these actions result from a process of long term decay at Brunton Park rather a dramatic rise in the fortunes of Barrow.
I'd say winning the National League title and regaining league status after never getting anywhere near previously was a pretty dramatic rise in our fortunes to be fair.
Wasnt meaning to belittle our achievement. Simply to affirm that Carlisles problems are of Carlisles making. Doesn't feel like they are a particularly united or content bunch and this translates itself eventually into a squad worrying too much about their immediate futures. It does make it marginally easier to tempt their better players away. As we know from our past.

Conversely I do believe that our current board (despite their flaws) do manage to convey both a vision for the club and demonstrate a commitment to the clubs future development. This wont offset a decent pay increase but it does have an impact when you are asking players or managers to shift club or locations.

This is what fans of other clubs tend to ignore when they talk of their clubs as being "big". The Titanic was the biggest and the best. That didn't turn out too well though.

Re: Zanzala

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:40 pm
by Adam29
Zanzala will be a guest on the BBC Radio Cumbria Sport show tonight from 6:30pm with James and I

We will also be discussing the other incomings as well

81333 starting with Cumbria or tweet @bbccumbriasport from 6pm we’d love your interactions as well