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Re: Non League

Post by Sea Dog Sam » Tue Apr 12, 2022 3:32 pm

bluessupporter wrote: Sun Apr 10, 2022 8:31 pm
Lightflood wrote: Sun Apr 10, 2022 8:22 pm Is it realistic to offer a young footballer possibly married with young children of school age a one year deal and expect them to all move to Barrow or immediate area if he's based in central Lancashire and could possibly have the choice of other clubs with training facilities not too far away.
Already mentioned here a few are suggesting we should get rid several players if we succumb to relegation .Moving lock stock and barrel to Barrow probably isn't on most players minds when they sign for us and never will be I would suggest it would actively put lots of players off joining us
When the club was last in the Football League they owned several houses which were used by players and their families. It is not unusual in any job for a family to move to the area where the chief breadwinner lives.

The present manager has already started to engage with the local community unlike the previous ones, but I don't think long term he is the answer, and we should go for an ambitious manager from the National League wanting to make the step up to further his career, rather than someone at the tail end of theirs.
Didn't the Yank (Jeeze, I can't remember his name :lol:) say at the presentation at The Forum - shortly before taking over - that his desire was to have several players living in Barrow. I thought, at the time, that it was an excellent idea. It creates a sense of loyalty to the club, the town and the community.

I remember back in our old EFL days seeing the likes of Dave Storf and Roy McCarthy walking through Dalton Road whilst I was hopping into Wells Record Store to buy the latest offerings from Bowie and Bolan. I'd like to see those days return.
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Re: Non League

Post by bluessupporter » Tue Apr 12, 2022 5:57 pm

Sea Dog Sam wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 3:32 pm

Didn't the Yank (Jeeze, I can't remember his name :lol:)
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Re: Non League

Post by blue nige » Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:00 pm

Sea Dog Sam wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 3:32 pm
bluessupporter wrote: Sun Apr 10, 2022 8:31 pm

When the club was last in the Football League they owned several houses which were used by players and their families. It is not unusual in any job for a family to move to the area where the chief breadwinner lives.

The present manager has already started to engage with the local community unlike the previous ones, but I don't think long term he is the answer, and we should go for an ambitious manager from the National League wanting to make the step up to further his career, rather than someone at the tail end of theirs.
Didn't the Yank (Jeeze, I can't remember his name :lol:) say at the presentation at The Forum - shortly before taking over - that his desire was to have several players living in Barrow. I thought, at the time, that it was an excellent idea. It creates a sense of loyalty to the club, the town and the community.

I remember back in our old EFL days seeing the likes of Dave Storf and Roy McCarthy walking through Dalton Road whilst I was hopping into Wells Record Store to buy the latest offerings from Bowie and Bolan. I'd like to see those days return.
Good luck with that one !

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Re: Non League

Post by Sea Dog Sam » Wed Apr 13, 2022 12:29 pm

blue nige wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:00 pm
Sea Dog Sam wrote: Tue Apr 12, 2022 3:32 pm

Didn't the Yank (Jeeze, I can't remember his name :lol:) say at the presentation at The Forum - shortly before taking over - that his desire was to have several players living in Barrow. I thought, at the time, that it was an excellent idea. It creates a sense of loyalty to the club, the town and the community.

I remember back in our old EFL days seeing the likes of Dave Storf and Roy McCarthy walking through Dalton Road whilst I was hopping into Wells Record Store to buy the latest offerings from Bowie and Bolan. I'd like to see those days return.
Good luck with that one !
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Re: Non League

Post by Wintergreen » Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:24 am

Bowie and Bolan were stars of the 70s, Storf and McCarthy were stars of the 60s.
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Re: Non League

Post by A.B. » Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:04 am

If the club were to move its training location back to Barrow (or nearby area), we’d have to accept that is likely to impact on the quality of our playing staff and we’re back playing the likes of Workington & Lancaster.

Personally, I have no issues with training in a more accessible location, with a greater pool of players available to us. It’s worked for us previously, and we’ve had plenty of success in recent times.

Someone mentioned it earlier on in the thread - it’s establishing a permanent training base which is the key thing. I believe this is one of the reason’s we appointed a DoF. This season’s arrangements have been nothing more than a cluster-[SwearFilter] and we’ve now ended up playing on some community fields in Bury.
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Re: Non League

Post by Hadrian » Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:31 am

"community fields Bury" makes it sound like it's another Tummer Hill fields setup.

It isn't.

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Re: Non League

Post by barrowaberdeen » Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:11 pm

It's where Bury trained I think. So not Tummerhill.

It was what we started with pre season. Pre Cooper meltdown due to pitch.
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Re: Non League

Post by mickmike wilson » Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:49 pm

I hope the BoD have learned some valuable lessons in dealing with Professional Football life, We we’re too weak in letting managers pick n choose training sites which lead to us being poor relations going around cap in hand, The BoD ie the structure of the club should be firm on these things, You don’t let people who are only here 1 or 2 seasons dictate important issues like club structure, They manage the players the BoD manage the club.

Training in Barrow on Fridays should be linked to squad or selected players on rotation doing community work as another way of tieing into the local area & building the rapport.

Clubs owning players houses is a long gone scheme when players only earned a standard wage & not todays inflated wage, So no need.

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Re: Non League

Post by mall » Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:42 pm

mickmike wilson wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:49 pm I hope the BoD have learned some valuable lessons in dealing with Professional Football life, We we’re too weak in letting managers pick n choose training sites which lead to us being poor relations going around cap in hand, The BoD ie the structure of the club should be firm on these things, You don’t let people who are only here 1 or 2 seasons dictate important issues like club structure, They manage the players the BoD manage the club.

Training in Barrow on Fridays should be linked to squad or selected players on rotation doing community work as another way of tieing into the local area & building the rapport.

Clubs owning players houses is a long gone scheme when players only earned a standard wage & not todays inflated wage, So no need.
I wonder how our friends in carlisle manage then? cos if they dont own houses it must be a hell of a lot of travelling for the players.

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Re: Non League

Post by McMark » Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:54 pm

mall wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:42 pm
mickmike wilson wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:49 pm I hope the BoD have learned some valuable lessons in dealing with Professional Football life, We we’re too weak in letting managers pick n choose training sites which lead to us being poor relations going around cap in hand, The BoD ie the structure of the club should be firm on these things, You don’t let people who are only here 1 or 2 seasons dictate important issues like club structure, They manage the players the BoD manage the club.

Training in Barrow on Fridays should be linked to squad or selected players on rotation doing community work as another way of tieing into the local area & building the rapport.

Clubs owning players houses is a long gone scheme when players only earned a standard wage & not todays inflated wage, So no need.
I wonder how our friends in carlisle manage then? cos if they dont own houses it must be a hell of a lot of travelling for the players.
Carlisle themselves have been pretty nomadic with their training facilities.

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Re: Non League

Post by Jonty » Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:04 pm

mickmike wilson wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:49 pm I hope the BoD have learned some valuable lessons in dealing with Professional Football life, We we’re too weak in letting managers pick n choose training sites which lead to us being poor relations going around cap in hand, The BoD ie the structure of the club should be firm on these things, You don’t let people who are only here 1 or 2 seasons dictate important issues like club structure, They manage the players the BoD manage the club.

Training in Barrow on Fridays should be linked to squad or selected players on rotation doing community work as another way of tieing into the local area & building the rapport.

Clubs owning players houses is a long gone scheme when players only earned a standard wage & not todays inflated wage, So no need.
Yep agree, the club should look to secure a longer term partnership with a suitable training location so we can put a Barrow AFC sign over the door. Back home, we already do the right thing by training the day before a match in town. Again a partnership with a local amateur club / furness college (all weather pitch?) could also help with plans for an Academy. I think we’ve allowed recent managers too much influence on the training location side and clearly hasn't helped during the course of the last two seasons.
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Re: Non League

Post by Rtw6095 » Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:08 am

Pretty sure Barrow AFC are hot favourites to take over Ormsgil Football Pitches. They've gone out to tender by the council at the start of the year and there's currently work ongoing to the club House such as a big clean out and roof repairs along with repairing the fences.

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Re: Non League

Post by bamber678 » Fri Apr 15, 2022 10:26 am

Rtw6095 wrote: Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:08 am Pretty sure Barrow AFC are hot favourites to take over Ormsgil Football Pitches. They've gone out to tender by the council at the start of the year and there's currently work ongoing to the club House such as a big clean out and roof repairs along with repairing the fences.
wouldn't that be a better location for a stadium? On my walks the other night down the canal in ulverston and thought how good Glaxo could be as a training complex, it already has a building with decent facilities and its got a fair few pitches on it. Could get it for a steal when Glaxo start selling off their assets.

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Re: Non League

Post by MisterPleasant » Fri Apr 15, 2022 10:50 am

bamber678 wrote: Fri Apr 15, 2022 10:26 am
Rtw6095 wrote: Fri Apr 15, 2022 12:08 am Pretty sure Barrow AFC are hot favourites to take over Ormsgil Football Pitches. They've gone out to tender by the council at the start of the year and there's currently work ongoing to the club House such as a big clean out and roof repairs along with repairing the fences.
wouldn't that be a better location for a stadium? On my walks the other night down the canal in ulverston and thought how good Glaxo could be as a training complex, it already has a building with decent facilities and its got a fair few pitches on it. Could get it for a steal when Glaxo start selling off their assets.
"To tender", so not for sale. Why would the club want to be a tenant of the council?
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