(Another) New Manager Discussion

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Re: (Another) New Manager Discussion

Post by RedWeb » Tue May 25, 2021 7:03 pm

Steeley wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 6:59 pm I'm not familiar with Mark Cooper's history but how come folk don't seem to like him?
What folk?

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Re: (Another) New Manager Discussion

Post by holkerboy » Tue May 25, 2021 7:26 pm

MARK COOPER:

MANAGERIAL STATS:

Tamworth – 28 April 2004 until 24 January 2007 – 138 games, 41 wins, 35 draws, 62 defeats, 29.7 win %
Kettering Town – 16 May 2007 until 14 November 2009 – 128 games, 73 wins, 30 draws, 25 defeats, 57.0 win %
Peterborough United – 14 November 2009 until 1 February 2010 – 13 games, 1 win, 4 draws, 8 defeats, 7.7 win %
Darlington – 29 June 2010 until 24 October 2011 – 86 games, 36 wins, 26 draws, 24 defeats, 41.9 win %
Kettering Town – 4 January 2012 until 18 January 2012 – 1 game, 0 wins, 0 draws, 1 defeat, 0.0 win %
AFC Telford United – 31 January 2013 until 1 March 2013 – 5 games, 0 wins, 1 draws, 4 defeats, 0.0 win %
Swindon Town – 13 July 2013 until 17 October 2015 – 125 games, 52 wins, 27 draws, 46 defeats, 41.6 win %
Notts County – 20 March 2016 until 7 May 2016 – 10 games, 3 wins, 2 draws, 5 defeats, 30.0 win %
Forest Green Rovers – 9 May 2016 until 11 April 2021 – 255 games, 101 wins, 67 draws, 87 defeats, 39.6 win %
Total – 753 games, 300 wins, 191 draws, 262 defeats, 39.8 win %

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Re: (Another) New Manager Discussion

Post by JammyBluebird » Tue May 25, 2021 7:39 pm

holkerboy wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 7:26 pm MARK COOPER:

MANAGERIAL STATS:

Tamworth – 28 April 2004 until 24 January 2007 – 138 games, 41 wins, 35 draws, 62 defeats, 29.7 win %
Kettering Town – 16 May 2007 until 14 November 2009 – 128 games, 73 wins, 30 draws, 25 defeats, 57.0 win %
Peterborough United – 14 November 2009 until 1 February 2010 – 13 games, 1 win, 4 draws, 8 defeats, 7.7 win %
Darlington – 29 June 2010 until 24 October 2011 – 86 games, 36 wins, 26 draws, 24 defeats, 41.9 win %
Kettering Town – 4 January 2012 until 18 January 2012 – 1 game, 0 wins, 0 draws, 1 defeat, 0.0 win %
AFC Telford United – 31 January 2013 until 1 March 2013 – 5 games, 0 wins, 1 draws, 4 defeats, 0.0 win %
Swindon Town – 13 July 2013 until 17 October 2015 – 125 games, 52 wins, 27 draws, 46 defeats, 41.6 win %
Notts County – 20 March 2016 until 7 May 2016 – 10 games, 3 wins, 2 draws, 5 defeats, 30.0 win %
Forest Green Rovers – 9 May 2016 until 11 April 2021 – 255 games, 101 wins, 67 draws, 87 defeats, 39.6 win %
Total – 753 games, 300 wins, 191 draws, 262 defeats, 39.8 win %
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Re: (Another) New Manager Discussion

Post by Steeley » Tue May 25, 2021 7:42 pm

RedWeb wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 7:03 pm
Steeley wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 6:59 pm I'm not familiar with Mark Cooper's history but how come folk don't seem to like him?
What folk?
Just a few quotes from a quick search on this forum
"Robbed today by yet another cheating horrible Mark Cooper team

they're a typical Cooper side, and in Noble they have a chief pr!ck on the pitch as well

Awful club all around, Cooper did as much screaming as the rest of his players every time there was a bit of contact and the ref duly obliged.

Mark Cooper continues to be worthy of an unpleasant skin condition

Anyone but mark cooper
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Not saying I'm against having him in any way, in fact I'd probably enjoy if we had a manager who was a successful [SwearFilter].
Few comments on twitter I've seen over time that suggests he's not well liked generally.
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Re: (Another) New Manager Discussion

Post by RedWeb » Tue May 25, 2021 7:43 pm

JammyBluebird wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 7:39 pm Tremendous formatting
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Re: (Another) New Manager Discussion

Post by Hadrian » Tue May 25, 2021 7:46 pm

Evatt wasn't liked by assorted opposition folk.

How did that work out these last two years?

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Re: (Another) New Manager Discussion

Post by Smoggie » Tue May 25, 2021 7:50 pm

Sorry old news so removed the link :sentoff:
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Re: (Another) New Manager Discussion

Post by McMark » Tue May 25, 2021 7:54 pm

JammyBluebird wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 7:39 pm
holkerboy wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 7:26 pm MARK COOPER:

MANAGERIAL STATS:

Tamworth – 28 April 2004 until 24 January 2007 – 138 games, 41 wins, 35 draws, 62 defeats, 29.7 win %
Kettering Town – 16 May 2007 until 14 November 2009 – 128 games, 73 wins, 30 draws, 25 defeats, 57.0 win %
Peterborough United – 14 November 2009 until 1 February 2010 – 13 games, 1 win, 4 draws, 8 defeats, 7.7 win %
Darlington – 29 June 2010 until 24 October 2011 – 86 games, 36 wins, 26 draws, 24 defeats, 41.9 win %
Kettering Town – 4 January 2012 until 18 January 2012 – 1 game, 0 wins, 0 draws, 1 defeat, 0.0 win %
AFC Telford United – 31 January 2013 until 1 March 2013 – 5 games, 0 wins, 1 draws, 4 defeats, 0.0 win %
Swindon Town – 13 July 2013 until 17 October 2015 – 125 games, 52 wins, 27 draws, 46 defeats, 41.6 win %
Notts County – 20 March 2016 until 7 May 2016 – 10 games, 3 wins, 2 draws, 5 defeats, 30.0 win %
Forest Green Rovers – 9 May 2016 until 11 April 2021 – 255 games, 101 wins, 67 draws, 87 defeats, 39.6 win %
Total – 753 games, 300 wins, 191 draws, 262 defeats, 39.8 win %
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Re: (Another) New Manager Discussion

Post by John_Bucks » Tue May 25, 2021 9:01 pm

Steeley wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 6:59 pm I'm not familiar with Mark Cooper's history but how come folk don't seem to like him?
I’m not a fan as has been well documented - by me ha ha.

He offered to fight me in the car park after a game way back when. Having said that, if he is the boards choice I’ll back him. We need another bit of needle in the dugout. Apart from Evatt, we’ve been too nice in that department for years.
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Re: (Another) New Manager Discussion

Post by PRR » Tue May 25, 2021 9:59 pm

John_Bucks wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 9:01 pm
Steeley wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 6:59 pm I'm not familiar with Mark Cooper's history but how come folk don't seem to like him?

He offered to fight me in the car park after a game
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Re: (Another) New Manager Discussion

Post by Duff » Tue May 25, 2021 10:46 pm

John_Bucks wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 9:01 pm
Steeley wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 6:59 pm I'm not familiar with Mark Cooper's history but how come folk don't seem to like him?
I’m not a fan as has been well documented - by me ha ha.

He offered to fight me in the car park after a game way back when.
Was it after the abandoned game against Kettering in 2008? He had ago at me as well.
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Re: (Another) New Manager Discussion

Post by Suffolk Blue » Tue May 25, 2021 11:34 pm

Duff wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 10:46 pm
John_Bucks wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 9:01 pm

I’m not a fan as has been well documented - by me ha ha.

He offered to fight me in the car park after a game way back when.
Was it after the abandoned game against Kettering in 2008? He had ago at me as well.
The issue is not that he's disliked, its that he is just dislikeable. To understand this you need to remember who his father was - the rather dark and terrifying Terry Cooper of Leeds United (and England) fame. Even in a team of top notch psychos such as Hunter, Charlton and Bremner, Terry Cooper cast a more foreboding figure. Hard as nails, brutal in the tackle and completely expressionless at all times on the pitch, he reminded me of a character from a Hammer horror film. I even thought he might be Kendo Nagasaki for a while.

Some of these personality attributes have been passed on to his son who has the same withering attitude towards anything that he sees as anti-Cooper. And judging by the disciplinary record of son Charlie Cooper, there's definitely something in the old family genes. Since the possibility was mentioned of him coming to us I've really struggled to see how this would work. No doubting his ability as a manager and I think he could even with our budget put together a squad capable of operating in mid table at the very least. Whether he could maintain the illusion of a close relationship with the Board, supporters or players however I just dont know.

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Re: (Another) New Manager Discussion

Post by EHB » Wed May 26, 2021 12:19 am

I don’t think Cooper is the right fit from a culture perspective. He always comes across of overly confrontational and abrasive, I think we need someone who can bring the whole thing together. Someone who will engage the fans.

His record seems ok and experience wise he probably ticks the boxes, but it’s not quite right.

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Re: (Another) New Manager Discussion

Post by chipmunx » Wed May 26, 2021 3:10 am

One of the things with Mark Cooper teams that everyone hates about them is they always seam to have a midfield player skilled in the dark arts, someone who gets stuck in, stretches the rules from time to time and really winds up opposition fans - the type of player you hate the opposition to have - but love to have in your own side.
In many ways he's also similar to Ian Evatt - they've both got that smug annoying (for opposition fans) confidence that comes from knowing they've managed to do the hardest job in football - get a team promoted out of the National League....
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Re: (Another) New Manager Discussion

Post by CH BAFC » Wed May 26, 2021 6:36 am

Keith Hill for me....
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