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Re: Atherston Matters

Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 4:53 pm
by Holkerbird
What a load of rubbish. They had their own catering outlets on their own side so there was no reason to come over to the area we were in.
It was a two pronged attack. Those coming from behind the stand and the others coming across the pitch.
How could "have you ever been in trouble with the police?" be mistaken for in Crown Court? It shows the mentality and intellect in the reply.
I hope they get all they deserve and the passage of time doesn't lessen what happened.

Re: Atherston Matters

Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 6:29 pm
by Zak
Interesting.

Re: Atherston Matters

Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 6:55 pm
by Steeley
Later in the trial, after his brother Kacey Sweet had given evidence, he was recalled to the witness box and it was put to him that he had in fact been in trouble with the police when he was given a reprimand in 2012 for battery.


Lol

Re: Atherston Matters

Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 7:10 pm
by Holkerbird
That's when he said he thought they meant has he ever been in trouble with the police in Crown Court. How he thought the police wouldn't have checked his record I don't know.
If he isn't a football fan why would he want to go to a football match?
Off to the dungeons with the lot of them. :sentoff:

Re: Atherston Matters

Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 7:12 pm
by Steeley
Agree, surely not doing themselves any favours by saying they aren't football fans.

Can't see the jury buying that they were just curious either.

Re: Atherston Matters

Posted: Tue May 19, 2015 10:44 pm
by DaveC
I really hope the law deals with these thugs properly. Prison is the only place for them, anything less is a cop out!

Re: Atherston Matters

Posted: Wed May 20, 2015 6:46 am
by Chris Benoit
3 were going for a look out of "curiosity", 1 wanted a drink and 1 was going to help? It would be funny if it wasn't so serious, surely the jury will see through these idiots?

Re: Atherston Matters

Posted: Wed May 20, 2015 7:48 am
by spirit of 1990
Basically the police got ALL the wrong people......these lads are just a mixture of either innocent "curious" bystanders or people who wanted refreshments while going out of their way to watch something they don't really like or have any interest in.


Whatever they get should be doubled for wasting the courts time & taxpayers money.

Re: Atherston Matters

Posted: Wed May 20, 2015 8:07 am
by Esso Blue
I'm interested to know whether any Barrow fans who attended on the day have been asked to be witnesses in this case? I was there and I have provided a detailed statement to the police. I have also agreed to be a witness if required. I have heard nothing. I'm deeply disturbed by the complete lack of concern for the welfare of the Barrow fans demonstrated by the police both on the day and in their subsequent handling of the case. I know that no-one was arrested at the ground on the day and it appears that it was only when the events made the national media that the police decided that they needed to be seen to take some action. They have subsequently expended minimal effort in trying to bring the alleged perpetrators to justice. It has the distinct appearance of an organisation hoping that the whole situation will simply go away and can be brushed under the carpet. After all, who cares about the welfare of fans at FA Cup games? (Note, this is a rhetorical question.)

Re: Atherston Matters

Posted: Wed May 20, 2015 8:13 am
by barrowfan_chris
2 people from Barrow gave evidence in the first week of the trial. There will be 3 trials in total the next one starts june 15th and then the final trial in september.

Supporters have been told via phone calls and letters which trial they will be called up for.

Re: Atherston Matters

Posted: Wed May 20, 2015 8:44 am
by Holkerbird
I disagree Esso Blue. I think the police have worked hard to try and bring these people to justice. Many man hours have been spent and they have traveled up and down the country to take statements and keep us informed of the progress of the case.

Just a thought but perhaps the things you witnessed the perpetrators have already pleaded guilty to as some did this almost immediately.

I do agree that there was nothing done on the day in question, slow to respond and when they did turn up they stayed over in the furthest corner of the ground from where we were located.
My stint is the September trial.

Re: Atherston Matters

Posted: Wed May 20, 2015 8:59 am
by Steeley
Fair play to all who have or are going to attend to give evidence, hardly ideal.

Re: Atherston Matters

Posted: Wed May 20, 2015 10:55 am
by Esso Blue
I'm relieved to hear that victims and witnesses from the Barrow fans have been involved because the reports that I have seen make no mention of that.

I can only go on the basis of my personal experience with Warwickshire police. There are things that I would like to say but I do not want to put information on a public forum when criminal proceedings are in progress.

Re: Atherston Matters

Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 2:43 pm
by Si_Nichols
Had a letter arrive from the police today and I have been asked to attend on 15th June - nothing like a bit of notice and I haven't heard anything for about 9-12 months so assumed I wasn't wanted. Going to have to read over my statement again if I can find it.

Re: Atherston Matters

Posted: Fri May 22, 2015 3:29 pm
by Holkerbird
I wasn't given a copy of my statement Si. Are you sure you have one?
Make sure you are dressed in your Sunday best.
Good Luck dear friend. :lol: