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Re: He's here

Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 7:18 pm
by Big E
blue nige wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:33 pm
Big E wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:30 pm We've got we asked for - an manger who's experienced at this level and above.

Came across very well during the interviews and when doing the photos.
Can't stand "name droppers " !🤣
Did i ever mention the time......

Re: He's here

Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 7:22 pm
by blue nige
Big E wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 7:18 pm
blue nige wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 5:33 pm
Can't stand "name droppers " !🤣
Did i ever mention the time......
:D

Re: He's here

Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 7:28 pm
by blue nige
Season Tickets on sale 31st May just had email confirming this ,shirts soon what a day !

Re: He's here

Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 7:33 pm
by RedWeb
Coops sounds well fired up for the challenge ahead. Clearly stinging from his treatment at FGR. Doesn't pull his punches.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p09jyldc

Re: He's here

Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 7:34 pm
by RedWeb
Paul Hornby interview. PH always has you excited about what lies ahead. Top bloke.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p09jz0xh

Re: He's here

Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 7:39 pm
by Middleton Nick
Hopefully this is the right appointment to take this club forward in the forthcoming season. Agree with Whitty re the midfielder along with a good supporting attacker to play alongside Quigs.

Re: He's here

Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 7:42 pm
by Middleton Nick
blue nige wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 7:28 pm Season Tickets on sale 31st May just had email confirming this ,shirts soon what a day !
General sale of main stand to be held back for a short while to allow renewals priority.

Re: He's here

Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 8:00 pm
by russell_anderson
As usual with any manager we won't know until the season is underway. He has a decent career win record of 39.8% slightly better than Neal Ardley's 35% and John McGreal's 37.4% but worse than Mickey Mellon's 46.05% and Dave Challinor's 53% who are others who may or may not have been possibles as all bar Challinor are currently out of work. Of course, a one-legged donkey would have been acclaimed as the next great manager on here just as David Dunn and Michael Jolley were and as every player we sign is until many turn out to be useless! Doesn't seem a bad choice on paper I'll make a judgement on what he produces.

Re: He's here

Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 8:04 pm
by RedWeb
russell_anderson wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 8:00 pm Dave Challinor's 53%
Achieved with Colwyn Bay, Fylde and Hartlepool. Never managed in the EFL. Comparing his win % to Mark Cooper's is completely meaningless.

Re: He's here

Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 8:14 pm
by russell_anderson
RedWeb wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 8:04 pm
russell_anderson wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 8:00 pm Dave Challinor's 53%
Achieved with Colwyn Bay, Fylde and Hartlepool. Never managed in the EFL. Comparing his win % to Mark Cooper's is completely meaningless.
True but his record at Hartlepool is good and all the others have managed at just as good level as Mark Cooper. That doesn't mean I'm suggesting Mark Cooper won't be decent but the same applies to all the others but they have all had failures as well as successes.

Re: He's here

Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 8:15 pm
by blue nige
russell_anderson wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 8:00 pm As usual with any manager we won't know until the season is underway. He has a decent career win record of 39.8% slightly better than Neal Ardley's 35% and John McGreal's 37.4% but worse than Mickey Mellon's 46.05% and Dave Challinor's 53% who are others who may or may not have been possibles as all bar Challinor are currently out of work. Of course, a one-legged donkey would have been acclaimed as the next great manager on here just as David Dunn and Michael Jolley were and as every player we sign is until many turn out to be useless! Doesn't seem a bad choice on paper I'll make a judgement on what he produces.
there was quite a lot on here who weren't impressed with Dunn's appointment! and with Jolley's appointment what else could we do ? Kelly had turned it down we had no other choice!, think your criticism is a bit petty and unfounded !

Re: He's here

Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 8:22 pm
by RedWeb
russell_anderson wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 8:14 pm they have all had failures as well as successes.
Any manager who hasn't failed hasn't had enough jobs. Personally not convinced by win percentages. Can be lots of reasons for it being higher than average i.e. Mellon at Fleetwood was bankrolled to promotion on Pilley's millions etc. Personally never been impressed by Mellon.

Re: He's here

Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 8:25 pm
by russell_anderson
blue nige wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 8:15 pm
russell_anderson wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 8:00 pm As usual with any manager we won't know until the season is underway. He has a decent career win record of 39.8% slightly better than Neal Ardley's 35% and John McGreal's 37.4% but worse than Mickey Mellon's 46.05% and Dave Challinor's 53% who are others who may or may not have been possibles as all bar Challinor are currently out of work. Of course, a one-legged donkey would have been acclaimed as the next great manager on here just as David Dunn and Michael Jolley were and as every player we sign is until many turn out to be useless! Doesn't seem a bad choice on paper I'll make a judgement on what he produces.
there was quite a lot on here who weren't impressed with Dunn's appointment! and with Jolley's appointment what else could we do ? Kelly had turned it down we had no other choice!, think your criticism is a bit petty and unfounded !
A few were but most weren't. It's a similar story on most fans forums. The fact is that there isn't the slightest way anybody can tell if any manager will be a success or failure. Even exceptional managers fail at certain clubs. Bad managers fail at all clubs. At our level we don't get exceptional managers but the best we can hope for is an average manager who will succeed for a time at our club. The only exception to that rule is if you are very, very lucky and hit an up-and-coming manager who will rise to a higher level. We did that when we brought in Ian Evatt.

Re: He's here

Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 8:27 pm
by RedWeb
russell_anderson wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 8:25 pmA few were but most weren't. It's a similar story on most fans forums. The fact is that there isn't the slightest way anybody can tell if any manager will be a success or failure. Even exceptional managers fail at certain clubs. Bad managers fail at all clubs. At our level we don't get exceptional managers but the best we can hope for is an average manager who will succeed for a time at our club. The only exception to that rule is if you are very, very lucky and hit an up-and-coming manager who will rise to a higher level. We did that when we brought in Ian Evatt.
Cheer up, Russell. Summer is on its way.

Re: He's here

Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 8:29 pm
by russell_anderson
RedWeb wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 8:27 pm
russell_anderson wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 8:25 pmA few were but most weren't. It's a similar story on most fans forums. The fact is that there isn't the slightest way anybody can tell if any manager will be a success or failure. Even exceptional managers fail at certain clubs. Bad managers fail at all clubs. At our level we don't get exceptional managers but the best we can hope for is an average manager who will succeed for a time at our club. The only exception to that rule is if you are very, very lucky and hit an up-and-coming manager who will rise to a higher level. We did that when we brought in Ian Evatt.
Cheer up, Russell. Summer is on its way.
I'm cheerful enough RedWeb just not naive enough to expect Mark Cooper to be a managerial messiah!