Barrow v Sutton utd match thread

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Re: Barrow v Sutton utd match thread

Post by SKIPPER » Sat Apr 23, 2022 5:05 pm

Oldham game abandoned after pitch invasion 1-2 down !

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Re: Barrow v Sutton utd match thread

Post by Jim » Sat Apr 23, 2022 5:07 pm

That means Oldham game will be replayed, so I don't see how Adam and Goody can say Barrow have secured there league status. A replay even worse than resuming the game with Oldham needing 2 goals to get the points they need.

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Re: Barrow v Sutton utd match thread

Post by Suffolk Blue » Sat Apr 23, 2022 5:09 pm

Tony wrote: Sat Apr 23, 2022 5:04 pm Pitch invasion at Oldham
Heartfelt congrats from Portugal. My golf was total crap today. But I feel much happier now. Well done to Phil Brown. He’s done exactly what was asked

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Re: Barrow v Sutton utd match thread

Post by Suffolk Blue » Sat Apr 23, 2022 5:10 pm

Jim wrote: Sat Apr 23, 2022 5:07 pm That means Oldham game will be replayed, so I don't see how Adam and Goody can say Barrow have secured there league status. A replay even worse than resuming the game with Oldham needing 2 goals to get the points they need.
Result stands after 70 minutes

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Re: Barrow v Sutton utd match thread

Post by Jim » Sat Apr 23, 2022 5:10 pm

Aren't Barrow the only club that have had an abandoned game result allowed to stand (v Gillingham 1963). So not much chamce of the Oldham game result allowed to stand. Pwerhaps they will be docked a few points though?

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Re: Barrow v Sutton utd match thread

Post by Jim » Sat Apr 23, 2022 5:11 pm

Suffolk Blue wrote: Sat Apr 23, 2022 5:10 pm
Jim wrote: Sat Apr 23, 2022 5:07 pm That means Oldham game will be replayed, so I don't see how Adam and Goody can say Barrow have secured there league status. A replay even worse than resuming the game with Oldham needing 2 goals to get the points they need.
Result stands after 70 minutes
Is that gospel, Suffolk?

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Re: Barrow v Sutton utd match thread

Post by Bombadel » Sat Apr 23, 2022 5:11 pm

Jim wrote: Sat Apr 23, 2022 5:07 pm That means Oldham game will be replayed, so I don't see how Adam and Goody can say Barrow have secured there league status. A replay even worse than resuming the game with Oldham needing 2 goals to get the points they need.
If it’s replayed then surely the replayed game starts at 1-2? If not, an it’s abandoned then what’s stopping every team from doing this when they don’t like the result

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Re: Barrow v Sutton utd match thread

Post by Jim » Sat Apr 23, 2022 5:15 pm

Where it is to the advantage of the Competition, the Management Committee shall also be
empowered to order the score at the time of an abandonment to stand. Providing gate
money is taken and retained the visiting Club shall receive their actual standard class rail
or bus fares or the equivalent for [ ] persons, or car allowance at [ ] p per mile for
transporting [ ] persons, or hire charge of a coach (receipt to be submitted). The residue (if
any) to be equally divided between the two Clubs after deducting the cost of advertising,
printing, posting, police and Match Officials charges. The home Club shall take the whole
of the proceeds of the second Competition Match.
Failure to comply with this Rule will result in a fine in accordance with the Fines Tariff.
Rule 20 (E) (IV)
The Management Committee shall review all Competition Matches abandoned in cases
where it is consequent upon the conduct of either or both Teams. Where it is to the
advantage of the Competition and does no injustice to either Club, the Management
Committee shall order the score at the time of the abandonment to stand. In all cases
where the Management Committee are satisfied that a Match was abandoned owing to the
conduct of one Team or its Club member(s) they shall award the points for the Match to
the opponent. In cases where a Match has been abandoned owing to the conduct of both
Teams or their Club member(s), the Management Committee shall rule that neither Team
will be awarded any points for that Match and it shall not be replayed. No fine(s) can be
applied by the Management Committee for an abandoned Match.

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Re: Barrow v Sutton utd match thread

Post by Bombadel » Sat Apr 23, 2022 5:18 pm

Jim wrote: Sat Apr 23, 2022 5:15 pm Where it is to the advantage of the Competition, the Management Committee shall also be
empowered to order the score at the time of an abandonment to stand. Providing gate
money is taken and retained the visiting Club shall receive their actual standard class rail
or bus fares or the equivalent for [ ] persons, or car allowance at [ ] p per mile for
transporting [ ] persons, or hire charge of a coach (receipt to be submitted). The residue (if
any) to be equally divided between the two Clubs after deducting the cost of advertising,
printing, posting, police and Match Officials charges. The home Club shall take the whole
of the proceeds of the second Competition Match.
Failure to comply with this Rule will result in a fine in accordance with the Fines Tariff.
Rule 20 (E) (IV)
The Management Committee shall review all Competition Matches abandoned in cases
where it is consequent upon the conduct of either or both Teams. Where it is to the
advantage of the Competition and does no injustice to either Club, the Management
Committee shall order the score at the time of the abandonment to stand. In all cases
where the Management Committee are satisfied that a Match was abandoned owing to the
conduct of one Team or its Club member(s) they shall award the points for the Match to
the opponent. In cases where a Match has been abandoned owing to the conduct of both
Teams or their Club member(s), the Management Committee shall rule that neither Team
will be awarded any points for that Match and it shall not be replayed. No fine(s) can be
applied by the Management Committee for an abandoned Match.
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Re: Barrow v Sutton utd match thread

Post by Suffolk Blue » Sat Apr 23, 2022 5:18 pm

Jim wrote: Sat Apr 23, 2022 5:11 pm
Suffolk Blue wrote: Sat Apr 23, 2022 5:10 pm

Result stands after 70 minutes
Is that gospel, Suffolk?
Unless the invasion was by Salford fans. Since Oldham fans were advertising a pitch invasion on their forum I would think that Oldham will be lucky to get away without a large fine. Think you can be happy that this is one game that will not be replayed Jim

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Re: Barrow v Sutton utd match thread

Post by SKIPPER » Sat Apr 23, 2022 5:19 pm

Replay the game but deduct six points for the invasion.On the Gillingham game (I was there) the result was allowed to stand because a) we were 7-0 up so Gills had no chance to alter it in the remaining time and b) they were punished for not making reasonable travel arrangements.

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Re: Barrow v Sutton utd match thread

Post by Jim » Sat Apr 23, 2022 5:19 pm

Perhaps this is reassuring precedent (from 2015). Decided a few days after the match too.

Pitch Invasion: Football League announce decision in Blackpool v Huddersfield Town

On 14 May 2015 the Football League announced that the abandoned match between Blackpool and Huddersfield Town on 2 May 2015 has been decided as a 0-0 draw – the score at the time the match was abandoned. Blackpool have been charged and referred to the Football Disciplinary Commission.

Thankfully, with under-soil heating, floodlights, pre-match pitch inspections, less fog, and calmer supporters (on the whole), professional matches in England don’t get abandoned like they used to.

However on 2 May, the match was abandoned after fans stormed the pitch in protest – something that was probably not at the forefront of Blackpool and Huddersfield Town minds before the final game of the season.

Blackpool had endured a disappointing season culminating in relegation to League One. Huddersfield Town were destined to finish mid-table, although a win would have seen them leapfrog West Yorkshire rivals Leeds United into 15th position.

The Blackpool fans were so unhappy with their team’s season (and owner) that 2,000 of them protested outside the ground before the match. So unhappy, that on 48 minutes, with the scores at 0-0, hundreds invaded the pitch. The referee had to abandon the match and get the players off the pitch for their own safety.

After the match, the Football League announced that there would be no replay of the fixture, and that it would hold a board meeting to decide the outcome.

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Re: Barrow v Sutton utd match thread

Post by CH BAFC » Sat Apr 23, 2022 5:23 pm

Ah well, big 3 points today and Phil brown is well and truly our hero.
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Re: Barrow v Sutton utd match thread

Post by kikka » Sat Apr 23, 2022 5:26 pm

Well done lads ...barring 'oddball decisions' ( and, unfortunately we have seen too many of them this season already ! ) that should clinch our status for next season . A superb effort over the last few games has turned it around . Confidence is growing and the results are reflecting that . The season is ending so much better than I feared it might .

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Re: Barrow v Sutton utd match thread

Post by Jim » Sat Apr 23, 2022 5:28 pm

Typical Barrow - we had to wait for ages to get our promotion confirmed and now we may be waiting to get our survival confirmed.

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