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Re: Sack the board

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:38 am
by barrowfan
Jim wrote:
mickmike wilson wrote: they then engineer the position where they can loan us this emergency bail out, very devious ways of cementing their positions,
Ridiculous suggestion, it must make the Board members weep to read rubbish like that.
Thought that when I read it myself.

Who on earth would want to cement their position as the director of a company that trades at a loss every year and has to pump in their own money to keep it going?

Please form an orderly queue.

Re: Sack the board

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:51 am
by Bigfathoss
Jim wrote:
mickmike wilson wrote: they then engineer the position where they can loan us this emergency bail out, very devious ways of cementing their positions,
Ridiculous suggestion, it must make the Board members weep to read rubbish like that.
Yes, but hardly unexpected when you consider the source or, moore to the point, who his venomously anti-board buddy is.

Re: Sack the board

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:28 am
by The Chief
im not on wilsons side here BUT what was so bad about Colin Moore? he wanted to join the board/take over with his consortium, fair enough everyone has the right to do so, not sure exactly why he was so villified? yes his group and the board had a bit of a spat regarding the whole scenario but as a person and a group what exactly was so bad about him?

not trolling just genuinely interested as no doubt people know more about him than I do which admittedly is not a great deal.

Re: Sack the board

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:53 pm
by Barrowabc
The Chief wrote:im not on wilsons side here BUT what was so bad about Colin Moore? he wanted to join the board/take over with his consortium, fair enough everyone has the right to do so, not sure exactly why he was so villified? yes his group and the board had a bit of a spat regarding the whole scenario but as a person and a group what exactly was so bad about him?

not trolling just genuinely interested as no doubt people know more about him than I do which admittedly is not a great deal.
Let me be honest chief Colin Moore is in a word a 'knob'
He lived on a site we were building and I don't know anyone
Who has a good word to say about him,
I've met him once or twice I found him to jumped up
And looking down his nose at me.
I would only assume he wouldn't be the type
To run a football club without shafting us

Re: Sack the board

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 1:10 pm
by Nigel Bamford
The Chief wrote:im not on wilsons side here BUT what was so bad about Colin Moore? he wanted to join the board/take over with his consortium, fair enough everyone has the right to do so, not sure exactly why he was so villified? yes his group and the board had a bit of a spat regarding the whole scenario but as a person and a group what exactly was so bad about him?

not trolling just genuinely interested as no doubt people know more about him than I do which admittedly is not a great deal.
I don't know the guy but my guess is that back then we were much closer to the time when BK had saved us from oblivion. There was a LOT of goodwill and Moore was probably viewed as rocking the boat at a time when we were just pulling away from the Vaughan era. Time, however, moves on and that goodwill is becoming a distant memory.

Re: Sack the board

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 1:50 pm
by mickmike wilson
barrowfan wrote:
Jim wrote: Ridiculous suggestion, it must make the Board members weep to read rubbish like that.
Thought that when I read it myself.

Who on earth would want to cement their position as the director of a company that trades at a loss every year and has to pump in their own money to keep it going?

Please form an orderly queue.
Please explain why they do such a terrible job constantly and hide the reality of the situation from the fans until its to late to do anything about it, but its very different with their own business's ?

Re: Sack the board

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 1:55 pm
by mickmike wilson
Bigfathoss wrote:
Yes, but hardly unexpected when you consider the source or, moore to the point, who his venomously anti-board buddy is.
:lol: completely :lol: I hardly know the Fella, but what I remember about the situation was the bods were happy taking his increasing supply of money until he begun to see "things" from the inside & began asking questions then suddenly he wasn't wanted.

Re: Sack the board

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 2:00 pm
by The Chief
Barrowabc wrote:
The Chief wrote:im not on wilsons side here BUT what was so bad about Colin Moore? he wanted to join the board/take over with his consortium, fair enough everyone has the right to do so, not sure exactly why he was so villified? yes his group and the board had a bit of a spat regarding the whole scenario but as a person and a group what exactly was so bad about him?

not trolling just genuinely interested as no doubt people know more about him than I do which admittedly is not a great deal.
Let me be honest chief Colin Moore is in a word a 'knob'
He lived on a site we were building and I don't know anyone
Who has a good word to say about him,
I've met him once or twice I found him to jumped up
And looking down his nose at me.
I would only assume he wouldn't be the type
To run a football club without shafting us
interesting.

although i rarely meet people in his type of industry who arent like that, they think by being high brow they are better than the averge guy on the street.

what was it made you think he'd screw us over? being a knob is one thing but screwing a club over takes a special kind of [SwearFilter] to do so...

Re: Sack the board

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 2:05 pm
by barrowaberdeen
I'm not sure that assessing a bloke's character 10 :o ? years on is helpful. But. as it's that or do some work, I'll have a crack :D

All I remember (and I didn't go half as much) was that it was very odd and cliquey around the ground during the whole thing. There were some mutterings about how the vote went, but equally I've heard just as many mutterings about this chap too. One thing I will say that he's usually mentioned as being in some kind of dispute with anyone, clients, neighbours, The Rugby..

Andy used to kindly take me to a few games at this point and I remember years ago him explaining how being a members club meant serious investors are reluctant to come in. It's both a blessing and a curse- and that's the real underlying issue here perhaps as we look at what to do next.

Tony Keen took a fair punt inlooking for a public/private thing through the development, which was very much in vogue especially under Labour. That's would have been the only middle way, but because of the recession as much as owt else it didn't come off, so do we have a straight choice between the following:

1) Relinquish alleged control of the club to allow further investment/pay off loans and progress on the park quicker, at the risk..well we all know the risks.

2) Stay as a members based, community club - do it properly,and work not a penny out of our means and perhaps watch a better coached, intergated generation of local players wrestle with the might of Skelmersdale for a while why we sort out between ourselves how to run it more efficiently. It would be the ultimate test of those who insist we wouldn't endup with 3-400 gates like we once had historically.

I don't see an aleternative beyond what has been tried re the development.

Re: Sack the board

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 2:36 pm
by barrowfan
mickmike wilson wrote:
barrowfan wrote: Thought that when I read it myself.

Who on earth would want to cement their position as the director of a company that trades at a loss every year and has to pump in their own money to keep it going?

Please form an orderly queue.
Please explain why they do such a terrible job constantly and hide the reality of the situation from the fans until its to late to do anything about it, but its very different with their own business's ?
The only people who know the answer are those concerned. Why don't YOU ask THEM the question?

Re: Sack the board

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:08 pm
by 32mile_cul-de-sac
The Chief wrote:im not on wilsons side here BUT what was so bad about Colin Moore? he wanted to join the board/take over with his consortium, fair enough everyone has the right to do so, not sure exactly why he was so villified? yes his group and the board had a bit of a spat regarding the whole scenario but as a person and a group what exactly was so bad about him?

not trolling just genuinely interested as no doubt people know more about him than I do which admittedly is not a great deal.
http://www.nwemail.co.uk/news/barrow/mo ... ome/2.3320
no thanks

Re: Sack the board

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:59 pm
by The Chief
a lot of fans are blind fools who want a free flowing team, no debt and thousands in the ground but wont do anything to achieve it, we could and should have a much more able board than we have but too many people only see them as saviours, they were once, now they are strangling the life out of the club, as it stands we are dying a slow undignified death so a change is a must, maybe not moore and co but we need a new board simple as that.

Re: Sack the board

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:16 pm
by Ilford Mouse
Didn't the rugby sue Colin Moore for professional negligence?

Re: Sack the board

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:31 pm
by barrowfan
Ilford Mouse wrote:Didn't the rugby sue Colin Moore for professional negligence?
From the Evening Mail 2007

Johnston added that he was today travelling to Manchester with solicitor John Siddal to take a barristers’ briefing in their proceedings against the club’s former solicitor Colin Moore for alleged professional negligence.

Barrow RL hope to win back some £60,000 from the insurers of the Manchester-based solicitor for ‘bad advice’ over the issue of the drinks covenant at the Raiders Bar

Re: Sack the board

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:43 pm
by Wintergreen
Are we not sacking the board, Bayles, the kit man, the announcer etc. now that we have had a win?