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Re: Monday Nights Meeting with Paul Casson

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 11:25 am
by Salthouse Bridge
Just received my post and in it was an Extraordinary General meeting Letter in it if I'm reading it right it says Friday 28th will just discuss the approach from Mr Paul Casson to purchase the assets of Barrow AFC and to discuss the approach of Mr Paul Casson to request the transfer of the football membership of Barrow AFC
There will be no vote on any proposals at this meeting and all members will be sent details of the final proposal along with details of how to vote via post within a week of this meeting.

Re: Monday Nights Meeting with Paul Casson

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 11:33 am
by barrowfan
Eric Cartman wrote:
barrowfan wrote: I know one or two have said this but why?

Overall there is a very positive attitude on this forum and people I've spoken to this morning say it's a no-brainer!
As John L said above - there are many who do things like forget to update address, die or generally don't pay attention. The forum is also a small part of the BAFC community and there will no doubt be people who will still have their reservations about having the club at the mercy of one man. I'm all for this takeover and absolutely desperate for it to go ahead. I just hope that we manage to get the 75% vote required
Points taken but surely in general those that have renewed their membership are the ones who will be the most keen to vote.

I do think however that on this occasion all the information about voting etc should go out to those on the membership list BY POST and not rely on people to deliver them by hand no matter how much postage this might save.

Edit - just seen the previous post and it looks like this might be happening.

Re: Monday Nights Meeting with Paul Casson

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 11:37 am
by DaveP
"Pass a Special Resolution

A Special Resolution is a resolution passed by 75% of the members present in person or by proxy and entitled to vote at a general meeting.

Not less than 21 days notice specifying the intention to propose the resolution as a special resolution must be given to the members."

This is only an extract from an online reference and I'm no expert in law etc BUT it doesn't seem to say anything about postal votes!!

It seems therefore that member will either have to attend or ensure they have a proxy vote in place. The matter of a proxy vote given the likely number of members who are exiles MUST be sorted at the AGM please. :scarf:

Re: Monday Nights Meeting with Paul Casson

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 11:42 am
by Nigel Bamford
DaveP wrote:"Pass a Special Resolution

A Special Resolution is a resolution passed by 75% of the members present in person or by proxy and entitled to vote at a general meeting.

Not less than 21 days notice specifying the intention to propose the resolution as a special resolution must be given to the members."

This is only an extract from an online reference and I'm no expert in law etc BUT it doesn't seem to say anything about postal votes!!

It seems therefore that member will either have to attend or ensure they have a proxy vote in place. The matter of a proxy vote given the likely number of members who are exiles MUST be sorted at the AGM please. :scarf:
That seems to suggest it is 75% of those voting rather than 75% of all membership.

Re: Monday Nights Meeting with Paul Casson

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:02 pm
by Chris Benoit
barrowfan wrote:
Eric Cartman wrote: As John L said above - there are many who do things like forget to update address, die or generally don't pay attention. The forum is also a small part of the BAFC community and there will no doubt be people who will still have their reservations about having the club at the mercy of one man. I'm all for this takeover and absolutely desperate for it to go ahead. I just hope that we manage to get the 75% vote required
Points taken but surely in general those that have renewed their membership are the ones who will be the most keen to vote.

I do think however that on this occasion all the information about voting etc should go out to those on the membership list BY POST and not rely on people to deliver them by hand no matter how much postage this might save.

Edit - just seen the previous post and it looks like this might be happening.
One issue that there could be (although I'm not certain) is those who set up an annual standing order or whatever and forget about it. Technically these people will have renewed membership but may or may not be aware of this?

Re: Monday Nights Meeting with Paul Casson

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:05 pm
by Bingo
Is it possible at this point to join?

Living away from home it might be pointless for me to do so might just add to the problem?

I'm no legal expert but it seems it's all about fairness and giving all members the chance to have a say - i little bit like when you used to get voting papers every year from your building society. Reading between the lines the club doesn't seem to have been very good at keeping records upto date -

Re: Monday Nights Meeting with Paul Casson

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:07 pm
by Wintergreen
I haven’t heard of any club member going for the nay vote and I certainly won’t be. Any member who would not go out of his/her way to cast a yea vote on this issue would be doing the club a highly damaging disservice and having had the good will and proactive initiative to take out a membership in the first place why would they then want to deprive the club of substantial funding?

As for apathy/forgetfulness I honestly can’t see it being an issue – it’s just too important.


O say can you see by the pylon’s dim light
What so proudly we hailed at the (Cont. Verse 94)

Re: Monday Nights Meeting with Paul Casson

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:13 pm
by DaveP
Hopefully next years uniforms will be on sale before the season kicks off :flag: Go Bluebirds

Re: Monday Nights Meeting with Paul Casson

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:26 pm
by Richard Ingham
Bingo wrote:Is it possible at this point to join?
Just asked Pete, answer is yes.

Re: Monday Nights Meeting with Paul Casson

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:38 pm
by spirit of 1990
I thought on the whole he came across very well (as you would expect a successful businessman to) I liked the personal touches such as wanting to name some part of the ground after his Father as his family legacy in Barrow. Surely you wouldn't use a close family member's memory as a bargaining tool to convince people to sell something (or is that just me being naive)

He's done his job last night, it'll be very interesting to hear the BoDs view this Friday, if they are against it I'm just wondering how they can stop what PC started yesterday evening.

Re: Monday Nights Meeting with Paul Casson

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:42 pm
by Steelworks End
Nigel Bamford wrote:
DaveP wrote:"Pass a Special Resolution

A Special Resolution is a resolution passed by 75% of the members present in person or by proxy and entitled to vote at a general meeting.

Not less than 21 days notice specifying the intention to propose the resolution as a special resolution must be given to the members."

This is only an extract from an online reference and I'm no expert in law etc BUT it doesn't seem to say anything about postal votes!!

It seems therefore that member will either have to attend or ensure they have a proxy vote in place. The matter of a proxy vote given the likely number of members who are exiles MUST be sorted at the AGM please. :scarf:
That seems to suggest it is 75% of those voting rather than 75% of all membership.
If this is the case then the 75% vote is more likely to succeed, as only those in favour of the proposals - or against, for that matter - will go to the meeting or vote by post or proxy. This would rule out the "apathy vote" that always happens at elections - people who have no strong view either way, or just can't be bothered to vote - as any member who didn't vote would effectively be removed from the equation.

Re: Monday Nights Meeting with Paul Casson

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:51 pm
by Wintergreen
Richard Ingham wrote:
Bingo wrote:Is it possible at this point to join?
Just asked Pete, answer is yes.
Yeah like rats clambering onto a sinking ship or whatever the allegory is.

Re: Monday Nights Meeting with Paul Casson

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:52 pm
by audigex
Shaun wrote:I just wish he'd have focused MORE on the team and progressing up the table(s) and how he planned to do that, rather than the stuff surrounding the team
The team is the manager's concern and relies on the playing budget. The finances of the club (and therefore the playing budget) are the concern of the owner/board. I assume, based on what he's said so far, that his intention is to increase the playing budget available and then leave the rest to the manager. This would necessarily be done either by putting the money in himself, or just by putting the club on a more stable financial footing and allowing the budget to rise in line with the rest of the finances.

Re: Monday Nights Meeting with Paul Casson

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:06 pm
by blue nige
i think we should get robert mugabe to organise the vote!

Re: Monday Nights Meeting with Paul Casson

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 1:13 pm
by tommy2thumbs
DaveP wrote:Hopefully next years uniforms will be on sale before the season kicks off :flag: Go Bluebirds
I can just see you as a "Naughty Nurse" Mr P




(I can't really, it was a joke, OK, that's all...... bbbbrrrrr)