Re: Players linked thread
Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 12:57 pm
the priority up front is to bring in instinctive goalscorers. A front 3 who can return 40+ goals between them. Massive ask but that is what we need to break into top 5.
If we want to finish anywhere near the top then a 20+ goals scorer is an absolute priority. 4 of the top 5 teams scored 20 goals or more than us. Our top scorer was Hindle with 12 and half of them came from off the bench.Suffolk Blue wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 11:29 pm
Whilst it may be true that a couple of 20 goal a season forwards might transform our prospects dont expect us to sign them especially if they've previously scored 20 goals a season in this division. I think IE sees his task as being to create these capabilities where he sees the potential rather than buy them in. I think that was behind his initial recruitment of Jacob Blyth which actually was seen as a potentially smart move at the time even though it didn't ultimately work out.
pretty much agree with all that which is why the 2 names i put in the thread are Bradley Barry a right back who Evo knows from Chesterfield and Kurt Willoughby from FC United (although Stockport and Wrexham are already rumoured to be interested there too)Suffolk Blue wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 11:29 pm Look forward to this thread every year. Its always interesting reading the views on who would choose who.
If there is one thing I've learned from Ian Evatt over the last season is that he has a pretty strong understanding of what he wants. What makes him so interesting is that he also comprehends the clubs financial limitations which he is not put off by, and clearly establishes close bonds with existing squad players and in particular young players.
What this says to me is (a) forget marquee signings because apart from the prohibitive cost that's not what IE is really looking for; (b) forget all these former players who are now available again - there's no reason for IE to want any of them. He doesn't know them so most of them will mean nothing to him and (c) in terms of the players we do sign dont expect to be initially overwhelmed by any of their CVs; indeed dont necessarily expect to be previously aware of them much if at all. IEs network has already proven to be pretty good. He does seem to know people, who know people, who can identify decent prospects. I expect him to seek out those who are highly recommended by those who's opinion he trusts.
Whilst it may be true that a couple of 20 goal a season forwards might transform our prospects dont expect us to sign them especially if they've previously scored 20 goals a season in this division. I think IE sees his task as being to create these capabilities where he sees the potential rather than buy them in. I think that was behind his initial recruitment of Jacob Blyth which actually was seen as a potentially smart move at the time even though it didn't ultimately work out.
For those reasons it would not surprise me if Dior Angus did come on a permanent basis if we can afford him. He impressed at times last season, but not at others and he suffered a few injuries during his time with us. IMO he certainly has what it takes to become a really good addition at this level but he is not the finished article by any means. However all the signs are that IE will think long and hard before discarding members of the squad (even loanees as per Luke Hardcastle and Dior Angus), thus recognising that promotion challenging sides tend to be created from a decent core of a retained squad. Lastly, he's still a new and "young" manager so he will (as with Sam Hird, Josh Kaye and Jacob Blyth) tend to favour prospects he's encountered as a player though clearly this tendency will diminish. So prospects with a previous Chesterfield or Blackpool connection might be a good bet.
Spot on. As I mentioned earlier one such player is Aaron Smith who finished last season with 1874 Northwich (Can't get much further under the radar than that ! ) He was top scorer for Forest under-23 in 2017-18 but surprisingly released.Went to resurrect his career with Hamilton Accies in the SPL but found the massive leap too much and for whatever reason returned to his Manchester roots and joined 1874 simply to keep match fit. His manager there doesn't expect him to be available for them next season and says he is capable of playing at League 2 at least.Suffolk Blue wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 11:29 pm Look forward to this thread every year. Its always interesting reading the views on who would choose who.
If there is one thing I've learned from Ian Evatt over the last season is that he has a pretty strong understanding of what he wants. What makes him so interesting is that he also comprehends the clubs financial limitations which he is not put off by, and clearly establishes close bonds with existing squad players and in particular young players.
What this says to me is (a) forget marquee signings because apart from the prohibitive cost that's not what IE is really looking for; (b) forget all these former players who are now available again - there's no reason for IE to want any of them. He doesn't know them so most of them will mean nothing to him and (c) in terms of the players we do sign dont expect to be initially overwhelmed by any of their CVs; indeed dont necessarily expect to be previously aware of them much if at all. IEs network has already proven to be pretty good. He does seem to know people, who know people, who can identify decent prospects. I expect him to seek out those who are highly recommended by those who's opinion he trusts.
Whilst it may be true that a couple of 20 goal a season forwards might transform our prospects dont expect us to sign them especially if they've previously scored 20 goals a season in this division. I think IE sees his task as being to create these capabilities where he sees the potential rather than buy them in. I think that was behind his initial recruitment of Jacob Blyth which actually was seen as a potentially smart move at the time even though it didn't ultimately work out.
For those reasons it would not surprise me if Dior Angus did come on a permanent basis if we can afford him. He impressed at times last season, but not at others and he suffered a few injuries during his time with us. IMO he certainly has what it takes to become a really good addition at this level but he is not the finished article by any means. However all the signs are that IE will think long and hard before discarding members of the squad (even loanees as per Luke Hardcastle and Dior Angus), thus recognising that promotion challenging sides tend to be created from a decent core of a retained squad. Lastly, he's still a new and "young" manager so he will (as with Sam Hird, Josh Kaye and Jacob Blyth) tend to favour prospects he's encountered as a player though clearly this tendency will diminish. So prospects with a previous Chesterfield or Blackpool connection might be a good bet.
Good scoutingchipmunx wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 11:58 am Bradley Barry a right back released by Chesterfield - played 22 games for them mainly in the 2nd half of the season (when they were actually winning games) scoring twice - aged 24 - joined Chesterfield in 2017 so Evo knows him. Apparently turned down a new contract looking at the Chesterfield forum.