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Who makes the decision to take the Knee the home side, Ref or EFL.

Personally don’t support taking the knee. Has nothing to do with football, football is not racist, certain individuals in society may be racist, but football isn’t.

Desmond2-2 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 11:25 pm Personally don’t support taking the knee. Has nothing to do with football, football is not racist, certain individuals in society may be racist, but football isn’t.

Oddball!

Kieran wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 6:04 pm

Pedro wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 5:16 pm I returned after Mandela and still saw racism only it was coloured against poorer white South Acricans.

Oh my word! That line alone makes everything you have ever posted on any forum anywhere completely irrelevant and lacking in any credibility.

It's a matter of opinion.
A racist does not have to be white .
It's a forum but maybe you do not respect anyone's opinion but your own

Why does Zaha not take the Knee ?

Pedro wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:13 am

Kieran wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 6:04 pm

Oh my word! That line alone makes everything you have ever posted on any forum anywhere completely irrelevant and lacking in any credibility.

It's a matter of opinion.
A racist does not have to be white .
It's a forum but maybe you do not respect anyone's opinion but your own

agree but in this new world if you disagree these cretins label you.

PRR wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:10 am

Desmond2-2 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 11:25 pm Personally don’t support taking the knee. Has nothing to do with football, football is not racist, certain individuals in society may be racist, but football isn’t.

Oddball!

why is this person a oddball ?

Cromwell58 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 8:16 am

Pedro wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:13 am

It's a matter of opinion.
A racist does not have to be white .
It's a forum but maybe you do not respect anyone's opinion but your own

agree but in this new world if you disagree these cretins label you.

But you disagree with taking the knee and label those who do it Marxists whatever you think that means. Is it not possible they are simply trying to make a statement to protest against racism?

Why does it make people angry? Do you really think the answer to that is because people are really annoyed by Patrick Broughs Marxists political views?

Steeley wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 8:26 am

Cromwell58 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 8:16 am

agree but in this new world if you disagree these cretins label you.

But you disagree with taking the knee and label those who do it Marxists whatever you think that means. Is it not possible they are simply trying to make a statement to protest against racism?

Why does it make people angry? Do you really think the answer to that is because people are really annoyed by Patrick Broughs Marxists political views?

no problem with people supporting the knee but you should have right to be not part of it, it has not changed anything and is a meaningless gesture, education is the way forward ,

liverpoolann wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 10:21 pm No problem with the knee but I have seen sometimes the raised arm and clenched fist which cos I am old always reminds me and other associates of the days of Malcolm x and black power movement.Have seen it only on TV games so far.Would not
Like to see it at Holker .If people think I am racist fit that tough I shall stil sleep at night.

No one is saying your racist-got that ?-good.
Two simple words—Black Power—fostered a movement of radical anti-racism across the world.
Just like you, a lot of us that are old enough and, anti racist, are very familiar with its roots in the black liberation movement in the US, following on from the Civil Rights Movement and the Black Panthers.
There was a great deal of unity that had developed between black and white after the Civil War. United States rulers instituted Jim Crow, a system of legal segregation that rigidly divided every aspect of life. Legal racism was backed up by the paramilitary terror of the Ku Klux Klan.
Whites were encouraged to think of themselves as superior despite the poverty most lived in and just as in the UK today,many workers fell into the trap.
The knee and the fist are a powerful anti racist symbol of the racism from history whether it be from the deep south of the US or, the murder of Stephen Lawrence and the cover up of the racist Metropolitan police. As the saying goes, if you want to take a look into the future-just take a look into the past.
Keep taking the knee.
Grind the racists into the ground.

GazzaT wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:16 pm Well, I can tell u my son was stood nearer the back of the Holker Street end and although he couldn't see who was responsible, he was disgusted and was very clear in telling me that the 'N' word was used by someone stood directly behind the goal nearer the front. I'm sick of hearing this, no one but the player being abused heard anything so maybe he was mistaken crap. This shite still exists despite everything that the authorities try to do because unfortunately there are still racists in every, city, town, village and hamlet in this country. [SwearFilter] scum of the earth.

Pages of debate yet this post (from start) presents a clear fact.

Cromwell58 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 9:18 am

Steeley wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 8:26 am

But you disagree with taking the knee and label those who do it Marxists whatever you think that means. Is it not possible they are simply trying to make a statement to protest against racism?

Why does it make people angry? Do you really think the answer to that is because people are really annoyed by Patrick Broughs Marxists political views?

no problem with people supporting the knee but you should have right to be not part of it, it has not changed anything and is a meaningless gesture, education is the way forward ,

It's meaningless but you disagree with it???

And you do have the right to not be part of it - nobody's asking you to take the knee, are they?

It has changed something - it's created a division between racists and everyone else. Job done.

Moribund wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 9:54 am

Cromwell58 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 9:18 am

no problem with people supporting the knee but you should have right to be not part of it, it has not changed anything and is a meaningless gesture, education is the way forward ,

It's meaningless but you disagree with it???

And you do have the right to not be part of it - nobody's asking you to take the knee, are they?

It has changed something - it's created a division between racists and everyone else. Job done.

If you are that keen on supporting the knee lets see you do on the terraces, why have Barrow afc not done it at every match ?

Cromwell58 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 10:15 am

Moribund wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 9:54 am

It's meaningless but you disagree with it???

And you do have the right to not be part of it - nobody's asking you to take the knee, are they?

It has changed something - it's created a division between racists and everyone else. Job done.

If you are that keen on supporting the knee lets see you do on the terraces, why have Barrow afc not done it at every match ?

Cos of cunts like you.

Cromwell58 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:49 pm Marxism is a social, political, and economic philosophy named after Karl Marx. It examines the effect of capitalismon labor, productivity, and economic development and argues for a worker revolution to overturn capitalism in favor of communism. Marxism posits that the struggle between social classes—specifically between the bourgeoisie, or capitalists, and the proletariat, or workers—defines economic relations in a capitalist economy and will inevitably lead to revolutionary communism.

Where does it mention taking the knee?

Clever chap was Karl, start with taking the knee, next thing, stringing up the royal family.