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Re: New Manager

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:11 pm
by rockerlad workington
come on barrow this is getting boring now, hurry up and pay the compensation

Re: New Manager

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:16 pm
by DaveP
Compensation for what marra?

You don't want him your directors have said so; seems can be determined as constructive dismissal as such Edmo might have a case for suing you lot for compo :D :D :D

Re: New Manager

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:19 pm
by K-Man
We wont have to now will we seeing as they've pretty much said hes not wanted surely you dont have to be compensated.

Re: New Manager

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:25 pm
by rockerlad workington
KHayman wrote:We wont have to now will we seeing as they've pretty much said hes not wanted surely you dont have to be compensated.
they might not want him, but certianly cant afford to sack him, so if barrow want him the have to buy him out of his contracts. Otherwise unfortunatley he is stuck with us till the end of the season.

Re: New Manager

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:29 pm
by barrowaberdeen
We'll get them both, it's your board playing silly buggers to cause maximum difficulty for us. Statements from one section of the board on the site going against your chairman, then withdrawn :lol: Even more tinpot than we are.

Some of your message board want to go get Bayles, Henney's a traitor apparently and someone from Stoke appears to have some sort of weird messianic complex- fair cheered me up reading it.

I agree though, just let him go and we can both get on with saving our miserable seasons.

Re: New Manager

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:30 pm
by Reg
rockerlad workington wrote:
KHayman wrote:We wont have to now will we seeing as they've pretty much said hes not wanted surely you dont have to be compensated.
they might not want him, but certianly cant afford to sack him, so if barrow want him the have to buy him out of his contracts. Otherwise unfortunatley he is stuck with us till the end of the season.
Sounds like a situation where a compromise would be best for all parties.

You may well end up with a token gesture type payment but no way would you get anywhere near the amount you might expect if you actually wanted to keep hold of him.

Both boards have handled this in an incredibly amateurish was and it's little surprise that both clubs are such a shambles when you look how the men at the top conduct business.

Re: New Manager

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:35 pm
by optomisticsupporter
Uncle Peter wrote:Theres a thousand things i wish i could say, but i'm a professional person so will have to keep it brief.

We are in a situation where we have created a detailed criteria for the role of manager and how said person will work to push the club forward. As already alluded to, this will include closer work with the development squad, schools and the local area as a whole. We carried out interviews with some candidates, all of which were excellent and had their own merits.

As well as looking at those who applied formally it was decided we would look at other managers who hadn't applied but may fit our criteria. The subsequent press coverage is out of our hands.

I can't say much more than that unfortunatly, other than to say we've all spent a fair few man hours this week trying to get the situation closed out and start a new chapter for the club. I'm personally very excited by the plans we have in place and i look forward to presenting them at a meet the manager night which will be arranged as soon as the situation is sorted.

I know thats not telling a lot, but its all i can say at the moment.


Pete
To be honest I don't think it has been handled very well, even if you cant stop things being leaked do you honestly think after interviewing five candidates then deciding to look elsewhere is professional, get real its been badly handled and you should admit it.

Re: New Manager

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:55 pm
by rockerlad workington
Reg wrote:
rockerlad workington wrote: they might not want him, but certianly cant afford to sack him, so if barrow want him the have to buy him out of his contracts. Otherwise unfortunatley he is stuck with us till the end of the season.
Sounds like a situation where a compromise would be best for all parties.

You may well end up with a token gesture type payment but no way would you get anywhere near the amount you might expect if you actually wanted to keep hold of him.

Both boards have handled this in an incredibly amateurish was and it's little surprise that both clubs are such a shambles when you look how the men at the top conduct business.
Couldnt agree more!, its our AGM tonight as well. I expect there could be changes at the top.

Re: New Manager

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:56 pm
by rockerlad workington
barrowaberdeen wrote:We'll get them both, it's your board playing silly buggers to cause maximum difficulty for us. Statements from one section of the board on the site going against your chairman, then withdrawn :lol: Even more tinpot than we are.

Some of your message board want to go get Bayles, Henney's a traitor apparently and someone from Stoke appears to have some sort of weird messianic complex- fair cheered me up reading it.

I agree though, just let him go and we can both get on with saving our miserable seasons.
Both, i doubt you will get Gavin. I thought he was contracted till the end of the season i was wrong. He is apparently contracted till the end of next season.

Re: New Manager

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 5:44 pm
by Jock
Heard from a reliable source that 32 would be managers applied for the job, they drew up a short list of five for interview from which none were suitable. This forum presumes Meechan was one of them, who were the other four?. Darren Edmondson should not have been one of them, because they never asked Wukky if they could speak to him till thursday, if he was one of the five, it would be an illegal approach which could get the club into a lot of trouble.

Re: New Manager

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 6:58 pm
by Andy
When you interview people for important jobs, letters, cvs, references only give half the story. The interview is a major part of the process. I don't see the fact that 5 were interviewed and none appointed as tinpot etc. I've been there (obviously in a different set of circumstances) and seen the strongest paper candidate drop because of interview and the weakest come up. I don't think that this part of the process has been badly done. It is just part of the process of getting the best, right person.

Re: New Manager

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:35 pm
by barrowaberdeen
I thought they interviewed Karl McCauley, Meeks, Gary Lowe and Edmo. Who were the other/others? :?

The board (somewhat ironically given the model of the last 5 years but hey ho) hopefully tried to get the candidates to explain how they could reconnect with the local community and give some commitment to youth.I also think that we were more transparent about having no money so people like Coleman wouldn't fancy it, perhaps after an initial enquiry.

I can't imagine Edmo not being able to answer that community question better than the other three.

This of course is supposition.

Re: New Manager

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 8:08 pm
by spirit of 1990
barrowaberdeen wrote:hopefully tried to get the candidates to explain how they could reconnect with the local community and give some commitment to youth
I thought the same Steve but while just having a quick look at the Wukkie forum (I needed cheering up & to know there was a club in a worse state than us) I noticed one poster has put something along the lines of "he's not that into the community thing & doesn't bother with their youth set-up"

So he's either bluffed our board at the interview or he's coming here a changed man!

Re: New Manager

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 8:19 pm
by whitty1964
What's to stop Edmo resigning then joining us??? Is that not what usually happens

Re: New Manager

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 8:30 pm
by barrowaberdeen
Yep, I know the post you mean. Hope that's not the case.

I still would like (well like is maybe a bit too strong :? ) him over those other 3, given the current situation.