New Roof

[cuffy]

There are a good few comments on this thread/forum that either come from people that were only children/spoilt bar stewards or just trying to be wind up merchants.

Can we not just be grateful for the magnitude of effort and commitment our BOD/volunteers/trust have put into upgrading our ground. I know I certainly am.

[Bingo]

Just been reading on the league 2 forum a lot of supporters from different clubs complaining about the view being to restricted because of all the stanchions,

view from behind the goals are crap wherever you go. Ive been to loads of crap grounds, if you follow your team you don't for the facilities you go to support your team. People who has no intention of coming anyway having a good old moan

[Tomo]

If that was a dig at me bingo then your wrong I've been supporting barrow for 50yrs, I only mentioned what other supporters were saying, i don't know if anyone else has read the comments but there not very complimentary, and in no way do I agree with them,

[Bingo]

If that was a dig at me bingo then your wrong I've been supporting barrow for 50yrs, I only mentioned what other supporters were saying, i don't know if anyone else has read the comments but there not very complimentary, and in no way do I agree with them,

Not a go at you it's a go at the people that have those views

[Tomo]

Oops sorry I misread it .

[NORTHERNSOUL]

The Barnet stand is the away end at Exeter but wouldn't be deep enough. Would have only covered the back half of the HSE

I wasn't suggesting the ex Barnet stands as an option because you're right the roof certainly wouldn't reach the front of the Holker End terracing I mentioned it purely as an example of the new type of lightweight stand covers that don't require deep foundations and can easily be dismantled and moved to a new location as Exeter did and no doubt whoever buys the other one will too.

Surprised to hear about the seats being put in the end I would have thought a better option and i.m pretty sure there would be room in the corner to hire and erect a prefabricated 200/300 capacity temporary " golf " stand. I see there's a nice 7k capacity one going cheap as it looks as if they've removed the one from Old Trafford over the summer but not so sure that would quite fit in the corner tho.

[Jonty]

There are a good few comments on this thread/forum that either come from people that were only children/spoilt bar stewards or just trying to be wind up merchants.

Can we not just be grateful for the magnitude of effort and commitment our BOD/volunteers/trust have put into upgrading our ground. I know I certainly am.

Everyone is grateful and everyone appreciates the money and time going into this. People are asking why the need for so many stanchions!!? These roofs are not that heavy surely.

[chipmunx]

There are a good few comments on this thread/forum that either come from people that were only children/spoilt bar stewards or just trying to be wind up merchants.

Can we not just be grateful for the magnitude of effort and commitment our BOD/volunteers/trust have put into upgrading our ground. I know I certainly am.

Everyone is grateful and everyone appreciates the money and time going into this. People are asking why the need for so many stanchions!!? These roofs are not that heavy surely.

there are 13 pairs of stanchions on the new roof - there were 14 on the old roof....
the sizes and numbers will have been calculated by the design engineers to minimise costs. If the stanchions were further apart - say 10m instead of 5m then any steelwork and bracing in the roof section would have needed to be of a greater cross section and hence heavier which would in turn have led to bigger and heavier sections being used in the stanchions and bigger and possibly deeper piles being needed which would all have worked out more costly. Spreading the weight of the structure over less foundations would have also greatly increased foundation sizes. A bigger gap between the Stanchions could also have led to a higher risk of damage to the roof section in high winds which would obviously be unacceptable and potentially unsafe.
In a nutshell it's not just as easy as spacing out the stanchions more and therefore having less of them.

[Jonty]

I’ll take your word for it that this was a cheaper and easier option than a full width hangar style king truss roof using lightweight modern materials, that would have placed little / no load bearing on the terrace or back wall. .

[chipmunx]

I’ll take your word for it that this was a cheaper and easier option than a full width hangar style king truss roof using lightweight modern materials, that would have placed little / no load bearing on the terrace or back wall. .

good - and unless the roof was hung from "sky hooks"* there's nothing that would have placed "little or no load bearing on the terrace or back wall"

* there will no doubt be new BAE apprentices soon waiting in the stores queuing up for these, long stands and tartan paint.....

[HenneysKnee]

I see there's a nice 7k capacity one going cheap as it looks as if they've removed the one from Old Trafford over the summer but not so sure that would quite fit in the corner tho.

Gets removed every year, there was just no point putting it back up this year for obvious reasons

[Wintergreen]

I see there's a nice 7k capacity one going cheap as it looks as if they've removed the one from Old Trafford over the summer but not so sure that would quite fit in the corner tho.

Gets removed every year, there was just no point putting it back up this year for obvious reasons

Just out of curiousity, why do they remove that 'quadrant' every year?

[spirit of 1990]

There are a good few comments on this thread/forum that either come from people that were only children/spoilt bar stewards or just trying to be wind up merchants.

Can we not just be grateful for the magnitude of effort and commitment our BOD/volunteers/trust have put into upgrading our ground. I know I certainly am.

Everyone is grateful and everyone appreciates the money and time going into this. People are asking why the need for so many stanchions!!? These roofs are not that heavy surely.

I would guess it’s a compromise between the weight and factoring in the weather (wind/gales) not purely to do with how heavy the roof structure will be Jonty.

Between what the club will have done with the designers and the explanations chipmunx has given I think that all sounds quite reasonable.

[Bingo]

Nobody else for the last 25 years have come close to doing any major works at the ground so well done

[RedWeb]

Assume when people talk about Barnet, they mean this sort of thing? To me this cover looks very flimsy and likely to blow away in a mild breeze - I'm sure it won't, but it still has a temporary feel.