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Re: Ian Evatt

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:47 pm
by Suffolk Blue
Matty wrote: โ†‘Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:28 pm
MikeRenney wrote: โ†‘Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:26 pm Gone according to Bolton twitter site.
You've been caught by a fake account.
Wouldn't happen in that way anyway. No matter what chatter there is, the sign of approaching departure would probably the BAFC board allowing official access to Evatt by Bolton. That will only happen if agreement on compensation is achieved (probably).

By the way, not that its relevant but in my opinion the story put about regarding Darren Moore being an alternative to Evatt is probably also a fake story. Nobody around Doncaster Rovers seems to have taken that story seriously. I think it was invented to give an edge to the Evatt story. My guess is that Bolton dont have too many alternative options other than an internal appointment or a reasonably priced unemployed manager.

Re: Ian Evatt

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:50 pm
by Sefton Aubergine
Tommylad wrote: โ†‘Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:44 pm In all seriousness, would you still support him if he stays? Despite the achievements of getting us up, he has tried to jump ship at every chance ๐Ÿ‘€
Good results most will, bad results lots won't.

Re: Ian Evatt

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:52 pm
by Cromwell58
No point keeping someone who is not happy, but I would be gutted. Bolton are one of many clubs who could not be here in their present form in 12 months time, massive gamble for him if it goes wrong, no player, manager or owner are bigger than the club.

Re: Ian Evatt

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:53 pm
by Moribund
Tommylad wrote: โ†‘Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:44 pm In all seriousness, would you still support him if he stays? Despite the achievements of getting us up, he has tried to jump ship at every chance ๐Ÿ‘€
Why do you seem so desperate to boo him? I'm not sure how not leaving = disloyalty.

Re: Ian Evatt

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 2:01 pm
by barrowfan
Can't blame a manager for trying to better himself - in his opinion. Even if he doesn't go to Bolton he will leave us in the next 12 months.

The Board is quite rightly trying to make sure that the club is not disadvantaged financially - that is their job.

If Evo stays for the time being we should all get behind him until such time as he moves on.

Re: Ian Evatt

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 2:03 pm
by Pedro
Sefton Aubergine wrote: โ†‘Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:50 pm
Tommylad wrote: โ†‘Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:44 pm In all seriousness, would you still support him if he stays? Despite the achievements of getting us up, he has tried to jump ship at every chance ๐Ÿ‘€
Good results most will bad results lots won't.
I think Barrow Managers are always given the benefit,look at the start of the season 1 win in 7 .


Simple its about selling Labour and I do not think he will want to tarnish brand Evatt although I was worried when he said he was a Man Utd supporter and admired Ferguson other PLCs are available,

Let him walk away and a Tribunal will set the fee plus this early on in his career it looks bad.

Bit like a ex brother in law who said he only loved his wife now on wife 5 or 6 lost count.The records the same just the wife changes!

He has delivered but then when he was booted out at Chesterfield we gave him the chance and this Board has as he said in his own words given him everything he asked for.

Re: Ian Evatt

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 2:10 pm
by JammyBluebird
Pedro wrote: โ†‘Fri Jun 26, 2020 2:03 pm
Sefton Aubergine wrote: โ†‘Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:50 pm

Good results most will bad results lots won't.
I think Barrow Managers are always given the benefit,look at the start of the season 1 win in 7 .


Simple its about selling Labour and I do not think he will want to tarnish brand Evatt although I was worried when he said he was a Man Utd supporter and admired Ferguson other PLCs are available,

Let him walk away and a Tribunal will set the fee plus this early on in his career it looks bad.

Bit like a ex brother in law who said he only loved his wife now on wife 5 or 6 lost count.The records the same just the wife changes!

He has delivered but then when he was booted out at Chesterfield we gave him the chance and this Board has as he said in his own words given him everything he asked for.
Why would we want it to go to tribunal? We wouldn't see any compo for years!

Re: Ian Evatt

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 2:18 pm
by Paulmichael
Needs sorting asap either way, all the other clubs will be getting a head start in terms of recruitment etc, we've already had a hefty delay to see what league we would be in, get it sorted now then plan accordingly, poor from evatt if he leaves imo but rather him go now if his hearts not here

Re: Ian Evatt

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 2:21 pm
by Jonty
Yep, the tone is shifting here, lets have a decision on this. We have a season to prepare for.

Re: Ian Evatt

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 2:28 pm
by barrowfan
Jonty wrote: โ†‘Fri Jun 26, 2020 2:21 pm Yep, the tone is shifting here, lets have a decision on this. We have a season to prepare for.
Quite agree but let's stand by the Board. They gave him a better contract which he was happy to take. A contract of any sort has terms and conditions. If he wasn't fully aware of them his agent should have been.
You can't just push teams like Barrow around.
Stick out for the proper combo Mr Hornby and then we move on.
Maybe with Bolton it's - can't pay - won't pay.

Re: Ian Evatt

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 2:51 pm
by SKIPPER
Ian Holloway is Colin Murrays' guest on EFL on Quest tomorrow at 9.00 pm. Almost certain Murray will take the opportunity to extricate an opinion on Evo/Bolton from him. Be interested to hear his slant.

Re: Ian Evatt

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 2:57 pm
by Adam29
Suffolk Blue wrote: โ†‘Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:47 pm
Matty wrote: โ†‘Fri Jun 26, 2020 1:28 pm

You've been caught by a fake account.
Wouldn't happen in that way anyway. No matter what chatter there is, the sign of approaching departure would probably the BAFC board allowing official access to Evatt by Bolton. That will only happen if agreement on compensation is achieved (probably).

By the way, not that its relevant but in my opinion the story put about regarding Darren Moore being an alternative to Evatt is probably also a fake story. Nobody around Doncaster Rovers seems to have taken that story seriously. I think it was invented to give an edge to the Evatt story. My guess is that Bolton dont have too many alternative options other than an internal appointment or a reasonably priced unemployed manager.
Of course itโ€™s a fake story
If they canโ€™t pay the compensation for Evatt they wonโ€™t have the money to get a manager from a league one club will they

Their alternative will come out of the batch of interviews that they have already conducted - Evatt is their 1st choice no doubting it but itโ€™s either pay up or shut up on that factor - the โ€œalternativesโ€ would certainly be cheaper options - all depends if one of them impressed in their interviews

Re: Ian Evatt

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 3:00 pm
by russell_anderson
Jonty wrote: โ†‘Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:54 pm
Stephen Leonard wrote: โ†‘Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:33 pm I actually see him staying now as a potentially bigger problem because as others have pointed out this will be like groundhog day until he does eventually leave and he will be linked to every vacancy at L2 and above (which is a compliment to both Evatt and Barrow) - therefore if prospective new signings know this will they be reluctant to committ to us if they think the manager may move in a few months.
Exactly, almost like paying the price for a bit of success here. Unfortunately, we are a stepping stone club, whilst some may think that is a good thing, i hate the prospect of that as it means that any success that comes our way, those behind it will inevitably move on. I know, itโ€™s football and happens all the way through the levels.
Sadly that is absolutely true and has also been said, everybody is a feeder club to the Premier clubs and even the majority of Premier clubs are feeder clubs to the top 6!

Re: Ian Evatt

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 3:00 pm
by whitty1969
Really cant see Bolton paying 250k + extra for the backroom staff.
Looks like Bolton need a rethink

Re: Ian Evatt

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 3:14 pm
by Suffolk Blue
Jonty wrote: โ†‘Fri Jun 26, 2020 2:21 pm Yep, the tone is shifting here, lets have a decision on this. We have a season to prepare for.
Dead right. Bolton are the club that needs saving. We do not.

However we should not be too hard on IE however this turns out. He's done absolutely nothing to interfere with or force the hand of the board thus far. He's playing the whole thing with a very straight bat. And you cant really judge someone by what they dont say in this situation.

Unfortunately for many, because of what he's helped achieve at the club he has assumed the status of superhero or legend in many peoples eyes. A few may now be realising that evaluation was a little excessive. He is just a damn good manager with a lot of potential who is intent on fulfilling it as he sees fit - which we probably all have aspired to in our time. I would only caveat that by suggesting that his choice of suitors in Fylde and Bolton are both less than convincing in different ways. There is part of me that wonders about his judgement but that may just be me.

This clearly cant go on for much longer. If the impasse is the compensation then I cant see the BAFC board shifting its position. Bolton need to put up or pull out.