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Re: New Signings Rumours

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:04 pm
by Adam29
But that to me creates a bigger problem - you’d be getting a player who is “settling for you” not a player that wants to play for that club

Re: New Signings Rumours

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:30 pm
by Jim
mickmike wilson wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:54 pm When the players panic mode ramps up.
There will be a spike in activity then ;)

Re: New Signings Rumours

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:16 pm
by Bigfathoss
Adam29 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:04 pm But that to me creates a bigger problem - you’d be getting a player who is “settling for you” not a player that wants to play for that club
Bang on. Player should get one chance to say yes. That's how Everton ended up with bloody Yerry Mina. He was holding out for MUFC and they didn't take the bait.

Re: New Signings Rumours

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:31 am
by mickmike wilson
Adam29 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:04 pm But that to me creates a bigger problem - you’d be getting a player who is “settling for you” not a player that wants to play for that club
That’s one way of looking at it, Another is lots of players are asking for silly money as our Managenent team have already said & when they don’t get picked up they eventually settle for what’s on offer, Happens all the time & probably more so during Covid.

This doesn’t mean they are not going to bust a gut for who they sign for.

Re: New Signings Rumours

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:38 am
by mickmike wilson
Bigfathoss wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:16 pm
Adam29 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:04 pm But that to me creates a bigger problem - you’d be getting a player who is “settling for you” not a player that wants to play for that club
Bang on. Player should get one chance to say yes. That's how Everton ended up with bloody Yerry Mina. He was holding out for MUFC and they didn't take the bait.
One example out of thousands isn’t really the norm though 🤷

Re: New Signings Rumours

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:08 am
by A.B.
mickmike wilson wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:31 am
Adam29 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:04 pm But that to me creates a bigger problem - you’d be getting a player who is “settling for you” not a player that wants to play for that club
That’s one way of looking at it, Another is lots of players are asking for silly money as our Managenent team have already said & when they don’t get picked up they eventually settle for what’s on offer, Happens all the time & probably more so during Covid.
Haven’t you just re-iterated Adam’s point there, about settling for us?

Re: New Signings Rumours

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:28 am
by barrowaberdeen
It's also an opportunity for someone who thinks they should be playing higher to fight their way back.
All players hold out for what they think is the best deal. It's a short career.

See the point though. Just think there's room for one or two as long as they aren't bad eggs. For example, Anthony Stokes has just torn up his Livingston contract, which wouldnt be miles from our budget. Would he be good for 6 months? No way hes crackers. Is he an upgrade as a player? Absolutely

Depends on the individual

Re: New Signings Rumours

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:58 am
by Holkerbird
There's also the compatability factor. Choosing a player in the right frame of mind is important for a happy changing room. One disruptive player can make for an unsettled side.
We appear to have the right mix of lads who get on well together and hopefully work hard for each other.
We just have to put our faith in the management team to choose wisely.

Re: New Signings Rumours

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:46 pm
by mickmike wilson
A.B. wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:08 am
mickmike wilson wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:31 am

That’s one way of looking at it, Another is lots of players are asking for silly money as our Managenent team have already said & when they don’t get picked up they eventually settle for what’s on offer, Happens all the time & probably more so during Covid.
Haven’t you just re-iterated Adam’s point there, about settling for us?
In a word NO....He was saying he doesn't want players settling for us, I was badly trying to explain they already do , Any of our players given the option of playing for us or playing for bigger clubs with the bigger fan bases/facilities, Providing them a higher profile in the game & on better money etc You will struggle to find one who says, no thanks, It's the nature of the game.

Re: New Signings Rumours

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 2:36 pm
by JammyBluebird

Re: New Signings Rumours

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 2:38 pm
by A.B.
mickmike wilson wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:46 pm
A.B. wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:08 am

Haven’t you just re-iterated Adam’s point there, about settling for us?
In a word NO....He was saying he doesn't want players settling for us, I was badly trying to explain they already do , Any of our players given the option of playing for us or playing for bigger clubs with the bigger fan bases/facilities, Providing them a higher profile in the game & on better money etc You will struggle to find one who says, no thanks, It's the nature of the game.
Okey dokey - cheers for clarifying

Re: New Signings Rumours

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 2:43 pm
by russell_anderson
mickmike wilson wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:46 pm
A.B. wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:08 am

Haven’t you just re-iterated Adam’s point there, about settling for us?
In a word NO....He was saying he doesn't want players settling for us, I was badly trying to explain they already do , Any of our players given the option of playing for us or playing for bigger clubs with the bigger fan bases/facilities, Providing them a higher profile in the game & on better money etc You will struggle to find one who says, no thanks, It's the nature of the game.
Absolutely correct. There is absolutely no such thing as loyalty in football where money is concerned. 99.9% of footballers will move to any club which will pay them more money. Very rarely you will get a case such as Grealish who has just signed a 5 year contract at Villa when he almost certainly could have gone to a higher profile club. However, he will be getting paid a very high salary to stay and almost certainly would have left if he had been given a much higher offer elsewhere. They are all "loyal" when they stay as just as "loyal" to their next club when they move on. The best you can hope for is that they do their best when they play for your club and I think we are well served in that respect.

Re: New Signings Rumours

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 2:48 pm
by Gazza
JammyBluebird wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 2:36 pm Young Keeper Scott Maloney arrives

https://www.barrowafc.com/news/2020/sep ... t-moloney/
Welcome Scott but please, wheres this striker we need? 😟

Re: New Signings Rumours

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:16 pm
by Moribund
Gazza wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 2:48 pm
JammyBluebird wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 2:36 pm Young Keeper Scott Maloney arrives

https://www.barrowafc.com/news/2020/sep ... t-moloney/
Welcome Scott but please, wheres this striker we need? 😟
I don't think he's signed at the expense of a striker...

Re: New Signings Rumours

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:39 pm
by NB Bluebird
David Dunn says Scott is under 21 so does not affect the salary cap.