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Hughes red card (now rescinded)

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 1:35 pm
by Fazered
http://www.nwemail.co.uk/sport/barrow-a ... 4f57a75-ds

The club are appealing over his dismissal

Re: Hughes red card

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 3:29 pm
by orpheus
Quite rightly so. There is no positive proof that what happened actually happened except one of our opponents [3 leagues below us] went down as tho he had been struck by an Ali thunderbolt [aka the cheat from Woking]. If this sort of cheating is at this level below us then Football is surely in a great big mess.
This lad will be getting some stick next Tuesday.

Re: Hughes red card

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 8:03 pm
by Wordsworth
orpheus wrote:Quite rightly so. There is no positive proof that what happened actually happened except one of our opponents [3 leagues below us] went down as tho he had been struck by an Ali thunderbolt [aka the cheat from Woking]. If this sort of cheating is at this level below us then Football is surely in a great big mess.
This lad will be getting some stick next Tuesday.
Talking out your erse. No-one went down...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vxsUJXl-cE

Re: Hughes red card

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 8:09 pm
by boyliegladbach
Wordsworth wrote:
orpheus wrote:Quite rightly so. There is no positive proof that what happened actually happened except one of our opponents [3 leagues below us] went down as tho he had been struck by an Ali thunderbolt [aka the cheat from Woking]. If this sort of cheating is at this level below us then Football is surely in a great big mess.
This lad will be getting some stick next Tuesday.
Talking out your erse. No-one went down...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vxsUJXl-cE
Number 4 on the floor

Re: Hughes red card

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 8:11 pm
by blue nige
It would be physically impossible to headbutt someone from the position hughes was in !

Re: Hughes red card

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 8:12 pm
by Wordsworth
boyliegladbach wrote:
Wordsworth wrote:
Talking out your erse. No-one went down...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vxsUJXl-cE
Number 4 on the floor
At the corner that led to the goal, not during the incident that led to the red card. Whether or not someone went down has no bearing on the legitimacy of the red, just don't like people talking shite.

Re: Hughes red card

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 8:55 pm
by Wintergreen
Hughes not a naughty boy then.

Re: Hughes red card

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 9:31 pm
by orpheus
take a good look wordsworth at the guy on the floor [number 4]

Re: Hughes red card

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 9:43 pm
by Wordsworth
orpheus wrote:take a good look wordsworth at the guy on the floor [number 4]
Okay.

Looking.

Looking gooder.

That's me taken a good look.

Number 4 gets knocked over at the corner 50% by your player and 50% by our player. Literally goes flying sideways. Hardly "went down as tho he had been struck by a thunderbolt" and that is not the moment when the ref blew for a foul. If it was, the goal would have been disallowed.

You heard there was a fake headbutt, let your imagination run away with you and have been caught out on video evidence.....

Re: Hughes red card

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 9:49 pm
by McMark
Totally agree with what you have been saying Wordsworth, you may have had a better view than some, was it a butt or was it not in your opinion.

Re: Hughes red card

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 9:54 pm
by Wordsworth
Mark Mc wrote:Totally agree with what you have been saying Wordsworth, you may have had a better view than some, was it a butt or was it not in your opinion.
I actually didn't see it as I was taking my nephew to buy a drink. The video evidence is inconclusive. On both the BBC and Barrow footage there is one of your lads stood between the camera and Hughes/Irish at the moment when the crowd starts shouting - so there's no way to tell what they are shouting about. The match reports down here call it a "simulated headbutt" so maybe no contact, but a gesture? Couldn't tell you...

Re: Hughes red card

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 10:04 pm
by McMark
Wordsworth wrote:
Mark Mc wrote:Totally agree with what you have been saying Wordsworth, you may have had a better view than some, was it a butt or was it not in your opinion.
I actually didn't see it as I was taking my nephew to buy a drink. The video evidence is inconclusive. On both the BBC and Barrow footage there is one of your lads stood between the camera and Hughes/Irish at the moment when the crowd starts shouting - so there's no way to tell what they are shouting about. The match reports down here call it a "simulated headbutt" so maybe no contact, but a gesture? Couldn't tell you...
Fair enough bud, think inconclusive is the general consensus. I was down at the Taunton end towards the corner when we scored but my view was blocked so can only go by the camera images and it looked like Irish stood up bringing his head into contact with Hughes chin and Hughes took obvious exception but a butt??????? There was worse that went on in the melee afterwards and I expected a booking either side tbh, just to calm things down.

Re: Hughes red card

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 6:42 am
by Ralph
Wordsworth wrote:Number 4 gets knocked over at the corner 50% by your player and 50% by our player. Literally goes flying sideways. Hardly "went down as tho he had been struck by a thunderbolt" and that is not the moment when the ref blew for a foul. If it was, the goal would have been disallowed.
I've had a good look at the footage as well, and if the offence happened after the goal was scored, then you can't tell from the camera angles available, however there is the knocking over of the Taunton player, mentioned in other posts, was this the offence? Pass, again the footage available doesn't make this clear, but I believe the ref was alerted to the offence by his linesman, so that's when the whistle was blown, and not when the offence happened.

Re: Hughes red card

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 3:23 pm
by McMark

Re: Hughes red card

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 6:59 pm
by Jim
On the official site - appeal has been successful.