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Holkerbird wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:44 pm To be honest I have always questioned the "new sponsor people" commitment to the club. Where were these people when the chips were down and we were desperate for funds to keep our heads above water? In the past we relied on the loyal people who were there when we owed them money but they kept providing us with the necessary to function, albeit hand to mouth. Not publicity seeking people or money men, just wanting to help as best they could. I doubt many of those people or businesses are here now. I realise the club is a business but surely some loyalty could have been shown to them as we wouldn't have had a club without their help.
The fans who organised fund raising ventures---and very enterprising ones they were. It generated a camaraderie that has lost its way now. Some decent money accumulated over the seasons. The atmosphere created by the Ultras with the banners and flags. Who could forget the Darlington one, a moment to cherish in support of another club facing extinction. The humour of the Fleetwood one too.
The volunteer workshops where you felt you were making a difference and looked forward to the Sunday "gatherings", catching up on the news before starting the jobs in which I, personally anyway, took a pride in.
The fans were disengaged from the players with the introduction of that players lounge. For the first time I am still referring to many of the players by their shirt number. Never thought I would see that day.
It will be interesting to see how many of the sponsors do stay around if we are relegated.
I know you are a supporter Mike so I expect you to carry on doing just that as I doubt you were just putting money in because we were promoted.
I know the die hard SUPPORTERS will because its what we do through the hard times even if we moan about it---that's what we do best.

olbarrafancumbak wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 12:39 pm I was reet proud to be in a position to sponsor the club, we seemed to be a bunch of winners and heading forward to the promised land!
I fear I am not the only sponsor questioning my sanity and I do worry for the season ahead.. will the current sponsors want to be involved? Will there be any new business or company wanting to sign up? The hospitality is ok but poorly attended, the buzz has slowly dwindled and apart from a bit if a craic and palatable grub..its list its way!
Like I say, was proud to be involved but will I want to do it again?

Holkerbird wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:44 pm To be honest I have always questioned the "new sponsor people" commitment to the club. Where were these people when the chips were down and we were desperate for funds to keep our heads above water? In the past we relied on the loyal people who were there when we owed them money but they kept providing us with the necessary to function, albeit hand to mouth. Not publicity seeking people or money men, just wanting to help as best they could. I doubt many of those people or businesses are here now. I realise the club is a business but surely some loyalty could have been shown to them as we wouldn't have had a club without their help.
The fans who organised fund raising ventures---and very enterprising ones they were. It generated a camaraderie that has lost its way now. Some decent money accumulated over the seasons. The atmosphere created by the Ultras with the banners and flags. Who could forget the Darlington one, a moment to cherish in support of another club facing extinction. The humour of the Fleetwood one too.
The volunteer workshops where you felt you were making a difference and looked forward to the Sunday "gatherings", catching up on the news before starting the jobs in which I, personally anyway, took a pride in.
The fans were disengaged from the players with the introduction of that players lounge. For the first time I am still referring to many of the players by their shirt number. Never thought I would see that day.
It will be interesting to see how many of the sponsors do stay around if we are relegated.
I know you are a supporter Mike so I expect you to carry on doing just that as I doubt you were just putting money in because we were promoted.
I know the die hard SUPPORTERS will because its what we do through the hard times even if we moan about it---that's what we do best.

Lancaster Branch wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:27 pm Are you talking to yourself here?

Nurse! NURSE!!

Summerof76 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 4:26 pm Something is missing......something so simple...... I’ve never been called simple before!

Summerof76 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 4:42 pm And this discussion is talking about two different things. Sponsorship is completely different to volunteers coming in to help out. Sponsorship should be about, yes putting money into the club, but added value that the company gets back in return. Companies come and go. That’s the nature of business. A company may use hospitality and advertising at the club one season and not need it the next if their marketing priorities are different in the next trading/financial. So the company may still be loyal but may support in other ways rather than spending their marketing budget on something that is not useful to them. You can support the club as a company, a fan or both. But there has to be a measurable outcome particularly when it comes to businesses.

And hospitality should be bouncing,.......I have my own opinions as to why it’s not but then I would wouldn’t I! And it’s nothing to do with price before anyone starts

Summerof76 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 5:04 pm @Holkerbird We’ll just agree to disagree on this one!

I don’t disagree about the fans being at the heart of the club. Absolutely.