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Holker End.

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 9:50 am
by mall
I heard our Chairman on RC sports talk last Friday night on about the new canopy roof that is going to be erected on the Holker end during the summer.
Can anyone shed any light on this-why is it called a 'canopy roof' ?, instead of just a 'roof' or, just a 'canopy'.
And does anyone know if the new erection will run the whole width of the pitch and, will it be adequately deep enough to keep the rain off all the spectators that gather underneath it. And will the new erection have numerous uprights the same as the Ray Wilkie stand that are a nuisance in terms of viewing the game.

Re: Holker End.

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 9:58 am
by olbarrafancumbak
mall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 9:50 am I heard our Chairman on RC sports talk last Friday night on about the new canopy roof that is going to be erected on the Holker end during the summer.
Can anyone shed any light on this-why is it called a 'canopy roof' ?, instead of just a 'roof' or, just a 'canopy'.
And does anyone know if the new erection will run the whole width of the pitch and, will it be adequately deep enough to keep the rain off all the spectators that gather underneath it. And will the new erection have numerous uprights the same as the Ray Wilkie stand that are a nuisance in terms of viewing the game.
Could be wrong but I thought they were almost replicating the old style roof? Think the canopy refers more to fabric type covering? Again could be wrong?
Whatever it is,its better than what we don't have and its something I and everyone has been almost begging for for a long time.

Re: Holker End.

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:10 am
by saltcellar
I think having cover for away fans is a criteria for entry into the football league.
That is one of the reasons it needs to be erected.
Tests are being made for suitable foundations.
It will be the about same size as the old cover at the Holker Street end.

Re: Holker End.

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:33 am
by JammyBluebird
I think the "canopy" refers to the style of roof rather than the material.

It's fixes to the back of the Holker Street Terrace where most of the load is taken and arches over with supports at the front. As opposed to being a roof with wider pillars at the front that take the load.
That's my understanding of it anyway.

Re: Holker End.

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:51 am
by Van Der Nipper
saltcellar wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:10 am I think having cover for away fans is a criteria for entry into the football league.
That is one of the reasons it needs to be erected.
Tests are being made for suitable foundations.
It will be the about same size as the old cover at the Holker Street end.
Incorrect,Accrington and Macclesfield are 2 grounds that spring to mind that have uncovered away ends.

Re: Holker End.

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:26 am
by BAFC_98
Van Der Nipper wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:51 am
saltcellar wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:10 am I think having cover for away fans is a criteria for entry into the football league.
That is one of the reasons it needs to be erected.
Tests are being made for suitable foundations.
It will be the about same size as the old cover at the Holker Street end.
Incorrect,Accrington and Macclesfield are 2 grounds that spring to mind that have uncovered away ends.
Yeovil when they were in the league and Gillingham too. I thought it was requirement to have a certain amount of away fans covered but wondered how these clubs met that.

Re: Holker End.

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:30 am
by JS1-Newcastle
mall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 9:50 am I heard our Chairman on RC sports talk last Friday night on about the new canopy roof that is going to be erected on the Holker end during the summer.
Can anyone shed any light on this-why is it called a 'canopy roof' ?, instead of just a 'roof' or, just a 'canopy'.
And does anyone know if the new erection will run the whole width of the pitch and, will it be adequately deep enough to keep the rain off all the spectators that gather underneath it. And will the new erection have numerous uprights the same as the Ray Wilkie stand that are a nuisance in terms of viewing the game.
'SHED' any light on this. Like what you've done there :)

Re: Holker End.

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:33 am
by Paul
Can't find any planning applications on Barrow council website for the new roof, so presume they haven't finalised a design yet. Knowing the eternity it takes for the council to come to planning decisions - a roof going up in the close season looks slim. Hope I'm wrong.

Re: Holker End.

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:31 pm
by mall
JS1-Newcastle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:30 am
mall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 9:50 am I heard our Chairman on RC sports talk last Friday night on about the new canopy roof that is going to be erected on the Holker end during the summer.
Can anyone shed any light on this-why is it called a 'canopy roof' ?, instead of just a 'roof' or, just a 'canopy'.
And does anyone know if the new erection will run the whole width of the pitch and, will it be adequately deep enough to keep the rain off all the spectators that gather underneath it. And will the new erection have numerous uprights the same as the Ray Wilkie stand that are a nuisance in terms of viewing the game.
'SHED' any light on this. Like what you've done there :)
LOL, believe it or not, I didn't realise till you pointed that out!.

Re: Holker End.

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:37 pm
by Jonty
JammyBluebird wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:33 am I think the "canopy" refers to the style of roof rather than the material.

It's fixes to the back of the Holker Street Terrace where most of the load is taken and arches over with supports at the front. As opposed to being a roof with wider pillars at the front that take the load.
That's my understanding of it anyway.
That would be a cantilever roof. One going spare at the end of the season at Griffin Park- Brentford. Was hoping we may try and recover that.

Re: Holker End.

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:21 pm
by barrowaberdeen
My limited understanding. Its canopy because of cost and to do with foundations.

Re: Holker End.

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:34 pm
by Richard Ingham
Jonty wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:37 pm
JammyBluebird wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:33 am I think the "canopy" refers to the style of roof rather than the material.

It's fixes to the back of the Holker Street Terrace where most of the load is taken and arches over with supports at the front. As opposed to being a roof with wider pillars at the front that take the load.
That's my understanding of it anyway.
That would be a cantilever roof. One going spare at the end of the season at Griffin Park- Brentford. Was hoping we may try and recover that.
And transporting it to Barrow would be cheaper than building our own? Let the obsession with second hand bits of football grounds go John :lol:

Re: Holker End.

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:52 pm
by Nigel Bamford
Paul wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:33 am Can't find any planning applications on Barrow council website for the new roof, so presume they haven't finalised a design yet. Knowing the eternity it takes for the council to come to planning decisions - a roof going up in the close season looks slim. Hope I'm wrong.
In his interview Paul Hornby said plans were being submitted soon.

Re: Holker End.

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:03 pm
by spirit of 1990
Richard Ingham wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:34 pm
Jonty wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:37 pm

That would be a cantilever roof. One going spare at the end of the season at Griffin Park- Brentford. Was hoping we may try and recover that.
And transporting it to Barrow would be cheaper than building our own? Let the obsession with second hand bits of football grounds go John :lol:
The club know about it, it can’t be feasible or they’d have taken it a step further.
Even if (even if) it was a good fit (a massive if) there’s the dismantling and transportation costs of dragging it over half the length of England. That alone would probably rule it out.

Re: Holker End.

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:53 pm
by Alley_Cat
The criteria is that we have to provide covered away support for away fans. Currently we don't provide that because we can't effectively segregate the away fans in the main stand.
Accrington and Macclesfield have uncovered ends but have covered seating elsewhere in the ground therefore they meet the criteria