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The wind

Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:38 pm
by Colin Appleton
I never thought I'd start a thread about wind but such is the world we now live in.
When I think back to all the matches I attended at Holker Street as a child I can't remember any where the wind had such a huge mpact on the proceedings as it does these days so it got me thinking.. Has it just got windier over the years ? Or is it because the ground is more exposed after the new Grandstand replaced the old one which was a lot longer. Of course there was also a time when the Steelworks End offered more protection from the elements before the Crossbar was built. I used to think it may have something to do with the Slag Banks being lowered but I think someone on here suggested the Banks are not directly behind the ground.

Re: The wind

Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:41 pm
by Middleton Nick
I never thought I'd read a thread about wind.

Re: The wind

Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:42 pm
by Bingo
Probably to do with the slag bank coupled with people being complete wimps .. perhaps years ago people were not as obsessed with the weather .. its mostly always been wet windy and cold at holker street.. what I'd give to be stood in my usual spot getting soaked and blown off

Re: The wind

Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:44 pm
by Barra Marra
Bingo wrote: Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:42 pm what I'd give to be stood in my usual stop getting soaked and blown off
:shock:

Re: The wind

Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:48 pm
by Cubbins Paratrooper
Bingo wrote: Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:42 pm Probably to do with the slag bank coupled with people being complete wimps .. perhaps years ago people were not as obsessed with the weather .. its mostly always been wet windy and cold at holker street.. what I'd give to be stood in my usual spot getting soaked and blown off
Blimey, sometimes you realise how much word and phrase selection matters.

Re: The wind

Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:58 pm
by Alhosk
Lighter balls? And I'm not talking about Bingo's.

Re: The wind

Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:02 pm
by A.B.
Not had access to any credible statistical data, but I would be very surprised if any localised changes (i.e. Barrow and the surrounding area) in the past 50 odd years, both topographically & structurally, influenced the wind speed at pitch level.

Re: The wind

Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:10 pm
by +[ [[Kris]] ]+
And what about that water table? Could it be higher? The same? Or even, lower??

Re: The wind

Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:20 pm
by McMark
Colin Appleton wrote: Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:38 pm I never thought I'd start a thread about wind but such is the world we now live in.
When I think back to all the matches I attended at Holker Street as a child I can't remember any where the wind had such a huge mpact on the proceedings as it does these days so it got me thinking.. Has it just got windier over the years ? Or is it because the ground is more exposed after the new Grandstand replaced the old one which was a lot longer. Of course there was also a time when the Steelworks End offered more protection from the elements before the Crossbar was built. I used to think it may have something to do with the Slag Banks being lowered but I think someone on here suggested the Banks are not directly behind the ground.
This help Colin; https://weatherspark.com/y/37979/Averag ... Year-Round

Re: The wind

Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:41 pm
by pjdaly
Colin, just off the top of my head, two of the windiest occasions I can recall at Holker Street were in 1983 and 1989 . . .

1983-84 was the Halom NPL title-winning season when we slaughtered every team in our path. But in October 1983 Goole visited and played towards the Holker Street end in the first half. Of course we were far and away the best team in the league and even though it was only October we were already Champions elect. But the conditions that day meant that even humble Goole went in at half-time with a healthy 0-3 lead over us. With the wind (hurricane?) at our backs in the 2nd half we proceeded to turn things around and ended up winning 4-3.

In February 1989 we faced Cheltenham in the FA Trophy. We won 1-0 and it was a Cowperthwaite penalty that settled it. Cowps could strike a ball on the mildest of days but as he stepped up to take the spot-kick at the Holker Street end with a frightening storm at his back you had to feel for the opposition keeper if he failed to get out of the way. Wisely he managed to duck. If he'd been struck in the midriff you have to think he would have been catapulted through the back of the Holker Street end and carried clean across the railway lines before being laid to rest somewhere in the Griffin Estate. Either that or he'd have lived the rest of his days as a human polo-mint.

Re: The wind

Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:47 pm
by Hitthebar22
pjdaly wrote: Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:41 pm Colin, just off the top of my head, two of the windiest occasions I can recall at Holker Street were in 1983 and 1989 . . .

1983-84 was the Halom NPL title-winning season when we slaughtered every team in our path. But in October 1983 Goole visited and played towards the Holker Street end in the first half. Of course we were far and away the best team in the league and even though it was only October we were already Champions elect. But the conditions that day meant that even humble Goole went in at half-time with a healthy 0-3 lead over us. With the wind (hurricane?) at our backs in the 2nd half we proceeded to turn things around and ended up winning 4-3.

In February 1989 we faced Cheltenham in the FA Trophy. We won 1-0 and it was a Cowperthwaite penalty that settled it. Cowps could strike a ball on the mildest of days but as he stepped up to take the spot-kick at the Holker Street end with a frightening storm at his back you had to feel for the opposition keeper if he failed to get out of the way. Wisely he managed to duck. If he'd been struck in the midriff you have to think he would have been catapulted through the back of the Holker Street end and carried clean across the railway lines before being laid to rest somewhere in the Griffin Estate. Either that or he'd have lived the rest of his days as a human polo-mint.
National league against Grimsby in (I think) 2015 was a serious hooley. Was that game Byron Harrison did his shoulder and was never the same player again.

Re: The wind

Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:48 pm
by mickmike wilson
Bingo wrote: Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:42 pm what I'd give to be stood in my usual spot getting soaked and blown off
Children read this, leave it out.......Its a joke Charles, Not persecution.

Re: The wind

Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:50 pm
by mickmike wilson
pjdaly wrote: Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:41 pm Colin, just off the top of my head, two of the windiest occasions I can recall at Holker Street were in 1983 and 1989 . . .

1983-84 was the Halom NPL title-winning season when we slaughtered every team in our path. But in October 1983 Goole visited and played towards the Holker Street end in the first half. Of course we were far and away the best team in the league and even though it was only October we were already Champions elect. But the conditions that day meant that even humble Goole went in at half-time with a healthy 0-3 lead over us. With the wind (hurricane?) at our backs in the 2nd half we proceeded to turn things around and ended up winning 4-3.

In February 1989 we faced Cheltenham in the FA Trophy. We won 1-0 and it was a Cowperthwaite penalty that settled it. Cowps could strike a ball on the mildest of days but as he stepped up to take the spot-kick at the Holker Street end with a frightening storm at his back you had to feel for the opposition keeper if he failed to get out of the way. Wisely he managed to duck. If he'd been struck in the midriff you have to think he would have been catapulted through the back of the Holker Street end and carried clean across the railway lines before being laid to rest somewhere in the Griffin Estate. Either that or he'd have lived the rest of his days as a human polo-mint.


I remember that Google game well, Hurricane is probably correct thought typical British weather reports would suggest it might get breezy.

Re: The wind

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 4:09 am
by LDBF
Think you will find the problem is caused by the big fans off the coast

Re: The wind

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:28 am
by chipmunx
LDBF wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 4:09 am Think you will find the problem is caused by the big fans off the coast
you're starting to sound like Donald Trump, lol