Barrow v Wrexham match thread

[1AFC]

Yes it was.

Were we winning at the time or drawing ? Work it out

Were we on top, creating plenty of chances? In my eyes and the other 887 people's eyes, we were out the two, the winning team at the time and controlling the game?

Introducing subs at that time would have been a bad error.

[SKIPPER]

Why do this lot have such a record of mugging us at HS. This was the third time in their last four visits.Before last years aberration there was Pogba's Tom Daley impression which is more blatant every time you watch it. The year before they snatched an injury time equaliser with a goal from a sub called Obi somebody ( don't know what happened to him !)
I know its difficult to be upbeat and fear the worst but positivitey can breed success whilst negativety will only foster more of the same.If games were only 83 minutes long our last four would have produced 8 points and four clean sheets. That has to be a mammoth improvement on what went immediately before.We now need to move onto the next stage starting on Saturday. Thankfully none of our fellow strugglers are faring any better. Agents Anderson and Almond are doing their bit for their old mates by dragging Hyde into the mix, Stockports stop start season seems to have stopped again and just how Gateshead will fare having to cram in their eventual backlog will be crucial. With Lincoln managerless and in freefall I still think its any 4 from 8.

[donny bluebird]

Last night (Wrexham) we were excellent, on balance probabaly deserved to win, yet lost.
Saturday (Lincoln) we were very good, on balance definitely deserved to win, yet drew.
Last Saturday (Nuneaton) we were ok, did enough to win the game for 89minutes, yet lost.

Thats 8 points we quite conceivably should have had but dropped, in the last week and a half alone. That would have put us up to 16th and 7 points clear.

Sooner or later we have to stop saying we were unlucky/should have won & accept we dont do enough to win games so maybe we arent good enough. Teams that put the ball in the back of the net more then the other team win games. If you don't do that you aren't staying up. Our pretty passing and possession means [SwearFilter] all without scoring goals and putting teams to the sword. Pretty soon we'll run out of games left to say "let's take that into the next one and win".

Still think we'll go down.

That. Exactly that.

[K_BFC]

Undeserved defeat on that performance but Wrexham defended well enough against a Barrow team that was rather weak in the final third. Peppered the goal with shots but a lot missed and those on target were usually straight at the keeper. Best chances were DL Rowe in 1st half curling a shot to the far post, with the keeper saving well. Wrexham almost putting through their own net under pressure and a clearance off the line in the 2nd. Numerous shots on goal made their keeper save but with no second striker we were unable to capitalise on mistakes at the back by the keeper and defence.

A deserved red, you can't ignore the ball and simply wrestle with some one then kick the legs from under them after they get between you and the ball. No one in the Wrexham team seemed to complain much about it and he walked straight off, he knew what he had done wrong. Deserved yellow for the the dive. The same player took an age on his own, to come back over the halfway line after the goal. Blatant time wasting with the ref telling him continually to get over the line so the game could be restarted, he ignored the ref completely even slowing down, players like that deserve to be booked again the ref should not have hesitated.

Good performance from the team shame the result did not match it. The team needs to work at shooting on target but not at the keeper. If we had Boyes on the pitch we would likely had wiped them out, it really does show when we can't put out our best team. Results are what count at this end of the season, results aside the fans that are staying away are missing some good performances.

We are no worse off in the league given results, so hopefully they can correct last nights failure to get points on Saturday.

Since returning to the Conference BSP, this has to be the hardest season for the record of, no team winning at Holker St ever gains promotion, to stand. If it holds true, Grimsby, Kidderminster and Forest Green are on course for promotion, with possibly Mansfield and Macclesfield joining them. Newport, Wrexham and Hereford are not.

[K-Man]

Were we winning at the time or drawing ? Work it out

Were we on top, creating plenty of chances? In my eyes and the other 887 people's eyes, we were out the two, the winning team at the time and controlling the game?

Introducing subs at that time would have been a bad error.

So we weren't winning then ? Glad we cleared that up.

[mally]

Undeserved defeat on that performance but Wrexham defended well enough against a Barrow team that was rather weak in the final third. Peppered the goal with shots but a lot missed and those on target were usually straight at the keeper. Best chances were DL Rowe in 1st half curling a shot to the far post, with the keeper saving well. Wrexham almost putting through their own net under pressure and a clearance off the line in the 2nd. Numerous shots on goal made their keeper save but with no second striker we were unable to capitalise on mistakes at the back by the keeper and defence.

A deserved red, you can't ignore the ball and simply wrestle with some one then kick the legs from under them after they get between you and the ball. No one in the Wrexham team seemed to complain much about it and he walked straight off, he knew what he had done wrong. Deserved yellow for the the dive. The same player took an age on his own, to come back over the halfway line after the goal. Blatant time wasting with the ref telling him continually to get over the line so the game could be restarted, he ignored the ref completely even slowing down, players like that deserve to be booked again the ref should not have hesitated.

Good performance from the team shame the result did not match it. The team needs to work at shooting on target but not at the keeper. If we had Boyes on the pitch we would likely had wiped them out, it really does show when we can't put out our best team. Results are what count at this end of the season, results aside the fans that are staying away are missing some good performances.

We are no worse off in the league given results, so hopefully they can correct last nights failure to get points on Saturday.

Since returning to the Conference BSP, this has to be the hardest season for the record of, no team winning at Holker St ever gains promotion, to stand. If it holds true, Grimsby, Kidderminster and Forest Green are on course for promotion, with possibly Mansfield and Macclesfield joining them. Newport, Wrexham and Hereford are not.

The Wrexham 'The Leader' newspaper,seems to give us a decent amount of credit for last nites performance with Morrell saying we deserved something out of the game.

[1AFC]

So we weren't winning then ? Glad we cleared that up.

Poor.

So your suggesting everytime we are not winning we need to change it? Be it in the 5th minute or 85th?

Your just trying to be clever, and to be frank it really doesn't suit you.

[K-Man]

So we weren't winning then ? Glad we cleared that up.

Poor.

So your suggesting everytime we are not winning we need to change it? Be it in the 5th minute or 85th?

Your just trying to be clever, and to be frank it really doesn't suit you.

No not every time. When the opposition go down to 10 men you'd expect us to go more offensive because they are more than likely to go defensive xx

[Steeley]

Were we on top, creating plenty of chances? In my eyes and the other 887 people's eyes, we were out the two, the winning team at the time and controlling the game?

Introducing subs at that time would have been a bad error.

How on earth do you know it would have been a bad error? Do you think it would have made us lose the game? Which we did anyway...

Regardless of whether we should have made subs or not, mcevilly walking off the bench and onto the pitch without even jogging down the line or doing any warm up is unacceptable, no wonder he was dog shit. DB is absolutely clueless when it comes to subs.

[conquistador]

Bringing a second striker on with four minutes to go, no warm up, and after playing against ten men for nearly half an hour is poor planning and management. A couple of pairs of fresh legs may have made a differece given enough time. If anyone watched closely, all the "pretty" passing was done in our own half and most of the time the ball was pumped aimlessly forwards which gave possession away again. Without Boyes we never really look like scoring, most shots on target were tame or straight at the keeper. A fair few of the crosses were put in by L Rowe, who should have been in the middle to receive them.
We are not good enough by a long way and will be extremely lucky to stay up.

[K_BFC]

The Wrexham 'The Leader' newspaper,seems to give us a decent amount of credit for last nites performance with Morrell saying we deserved something out of the game.

It was a good performance, good to see it being recognised to some extent by the opposition for a change. Some managers of the bigger clubs act all on high after they win against us but Morrell seems to have his feet on the ground and knows it was a good result.

DB is absolutely clueless when it comes to subs.

He needs to stop using McEvilly, he made a nuisance of himself against Luton when the whole team was on top of their game. When we really need a player to make a difference, McEvilly is no longer the man, he is a spare body you throw on to waste time not when your trailing. If he is going to throw someone on in the last few minutes then he should try McConville next time, at least he can move. An injured Flynn would do better as well, we might even get another goal.

[1AFC]

Were we on top, creating plenty of chances? In my eyes and the other 887 people's eyes, we were out the two, the winning team at the time and controlling the game?

Introducing subs at that time would have been a bad error.

How on earth do you know it would have been a bad error? Do you think it would have made us lose the game? Which we did anyway...

Regardless of whether we should have made subs or not, mcevilly walking off the bench and onto the pitch without even jogging down the line or doing any warm up is unacceptable, no wonder he was dog [SwearFilter]. DB is absolutely clueless when it comes to subs.

Yawn, heard it all before. Let me guess;
- Hurst can't catch a ball a cross,
- Ruthers doesn't put the effort in,
- Mcevily is fat, and does nothing,
- DB is useless (oh sorry, you have already mentioned that)
- BoD need to go as they are useless,
- attendances are aweful and need to let people under the age of 16 free,

Have I forgotten out, before you mention it?

Oh yeah the sign for the next home game hasn't been changed....

Start supporting the club for Christ sake. The lads played very well yesterday, and deserve the credit. Tactics were right, and remember we don't have a bench full of decent players that can change games, nor we had a prolific goalscorer on.

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[Steeley]

How on earth do you know it would have been a bad error? Do you think it would have made us lose the game? Which we did anyway...

Regardless of whether we should have made subs or not, mcevilly walking off the bench and onto the pitch without even jogging down the line or doing any warm up is unacceptable, no wonder he was dog [SwearFilter]. DB is absolutely clueless when it comes to subs.

Yawn, heard it all before. Let me guess;
- Hurst can't catch a ball a cross,
- Ruthers doesn't put the effort in,
- Mcevily is fat, and does nothing,
- DB is useless (oh sorry, you have already mentioned that)
- BoD need to go as they are useless,
- attendances are aweful and need to let people under the age of 16 free,

Have I forgotten out, before you mention it?

Oh yeah the sign for the next home game hasn't been changed....

Start supporting the club for Christ sake. The lads played very well yesterday, and deserve the credit. Tactics were right, and remember we don't have a bench full of decent players that can change games, nor we had a prolific goalscorer on.

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The tactics were not right! We lost! We never tested the keeper enough. Yes we played some nice football against a top side, but losing 1 nil is as good as 8 nil. Still no points, still in the relegation zone.
Not everyone has to kiss the clubs arse, people have a right to moan, i do support the club, supported them last night by my entrance fee and buying a two month old christmas card for £3 from the club shop which will have done a damn sight more than supporting them by banging on about how 'amazing' we were last night.
I try to be optimistic but i dont see last nights result as anything other than another nail in our coffin. Lets hope im proved wrong

[Reg]

Yawn, heard it all before. Let me guess;
- Hurst can't catch a ball a cross, - Agreed
- Ruthers doesn't put the effort in, - He does but he's gash
- Mcevily is fat, and does nothing, - Agreed
- DB is useless (oh sorry, you have already mentioned that) - Open to debate
- BoD need to go as they are useless, - Open to debate
- attendances are awful and need to let people under the age of 16 free, - Agreed

Have I forgotten out, before you mention it?

Oh yeah the sign for the next home game hasn't been changed.... It hadn't this morning

[1AFC]

Yawn, heard it all before. Let me guess;
- Hurst can't catch a ball a cross, - Agreed
- Ruthers doesn't put the effort in, - He does but he's gash
- Mcevily is fat, and does nothing, - Agreed
- DB is useless (oh sorry, you have already mentioned that) - Open to debate
- BoD need to go as they are useless, - Open to debate
- attendances are awful and need to let people under the age of 16 free, - Agreed

Have I forgotten out, before you mention it?

Oh yeah the sign for the next home game hasn't been changed.... It hadn't this morning

Point proven. And the sign was changed.