Barrow vs Gainsborough

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Re: Barrow vs Gainsborough

Post by barrowfan1999 » Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:53 pm

The man is clearly under pressure. Surely he can't face the fans on Tuesday after what he's done. Get him out of the club before its too late.

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Re: Barrow vs Gainsborough

Post by audigex » Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:58 pm

What is gross misconduct?
Conduct on the part of an employee which is so bad that it destroys the employer/employee relationship, and merits instant dismissal without notice or pay in lieu of notice.

Some common examples of Gross Misconduct:
  • Being drunk or under the influence of any drug while on duty
  • Cursing/Swearing
  • Avoiding school (truancy) or a work shift
  • Illegal drug use at work
  • Fighting
  • Harassing people
  • Stealing
  • Subjecting people to discrimination
  • Bringing the organisation into disrepute
If the employee takes you to an Employment Tribunal, you would have to be able to demonstrate that your decision:
  • Would be one that a reasonable employer would have made
  • Was itself both fair and reasonable in the circumstances
If I went on the radio for an interview for work and threw in a "[SwearFilter]" and a couple of F-bombs, I'd be out on my backside before I could say P-45.
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Re: Barrow vs Gainsborough

Post by Tunnocks » Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:02 pm

[quote="Leo"]Can we afford to sack him financially?

Can we afford NOT to sack him.

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Re: Barrow vs Gainsborough

Post by barrowfan » Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:03 pm

Yeah but no doubt BK will say 'we've talked to him and warned him about his future conduct'

Don't this this board have the guts to stand up to him.
audigex wrote:What is gross misconduct?
Conduct on the part of an employee which is so bad that it destroys the employer/employee relationship, and merits instant dismissal without notice or pay in lieu of notice.

Some common examples of Gross Misconduct:
  • Being drunk or under the influence of any drug while on duty
  • Cursing/Swearing
  • Avoiding school (truancy) or a work shift
  • Illegal drug use at work
  • Fighting
  • Harassing people
  • Stealing
  • Subjecting people to discrimination
  • Bringing the organisation into disrepute
If the employee takes you to an Employment Tribunal, you would have to be able to demonstrate that your decision:
  • Would be one that a reasonable employer would have made
  • Was itself both fair and reasonable in the circumstances
If I went on the radio for an interview for work and threw in a "[SwearFilter]" and a couple of F-bombs, I'd be out on my backside before I could say P-45.

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Re: Barrow vs Gainsborough

Post by Kieran » Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:03 pm

He's not on a contract, therefore it would cost us nothing to sack him.

The board simply have to act now. I doubt they will though and what their reasons are for that are open to debate.

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Re: Barrow vs Gainsborough

Post by Reg » Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:04 pm

audigex wrote:What is gross misconduct?
Conduct on the part of an employee which is so bad that it destroys the employer/employee relationship, and merits instant dismissal without notice or pay in lieu of notice.

Some common examples of Gross Misconduct:
  • Being drunk or under the influence of any drug while on duty
  • Cursing/Swearing Check
  • Avoiding school (truancy) or a work shift
  • Illegal drug use at work
  • Fighting Check
  • Harassing people Check
  • Stealing If stealing a living counts, check
  • Subjecting people to discrimination
  • Bringing the organisation into disrepute
Check

If the employee takes you to an Employment Tribunal, you would have to be able to demonstrate that your decision:
  • Would be one that a reasonable employer would have made
  • Was itself both fair and reasonable in the circumstances
If I went on the radio for an interview for work and threw in a "[SwearFilter]" and a couple of F-bombs, I'd be out on my backside before I could say P-45.
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Re: Barrow vs Gainsborough

Post by donny bluebird » Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:05 pm

Kieran wrote:
donny bluebird wrote: He's not the only one to tell him to [SwearFilter] off this afternoon. [SwearFilter] up embarrasment picking fights with 10 year olds in the stand.
You're a cock, always have been. Get a grip man, I think the only reason you go to games is so you can have a pop at our own fans.
If you think that groups behaviour today was acceptable then that's fine.
I didn't, and neither did most around me, both Barrow and Gainsborough fans.
Score more goals than them!

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Re: Barrow vs Gainsborough

Post by Kieran » Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:09 pm

donny bluebird wrote:
Kieran wrote: You're a cock, always have been. Get a grip man, I think the only reason you go to games is so you can have a pop at our own fans.
If you think that groups behaviour today was acceptable then that's fine.
I didn't, and neither did most around me, both Barrow and Gainsborough fans.
Today was the first game I've missed, so I can't comment on specifics. But knowing all those involved, and knowing your past history for talking [SwearFilter] I'd back "that group" to the hilt.

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Re: Barrow vs Gainsborough

Post by donny bluebird » Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:13 pm

Kieran wrote:
donny bluebird wrote: If you think that groups behaviour today was acceptable then that's fine.
I didn't, and neither did most around me, both Barrow and Gainsborough fans.
Today was the first game I've missed, so I can't comment on specifics. But knowing all those involved, and knowing your past history for talking [SwearFilter] I'd back "that group" to the hilt.
Fair enough.
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Re: Barrow vs Gainsborough

Post by K_BFC » Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:25 pm

Kieran wrote:He's not on a contract, therefore it would cost us nothing to sack him.

The board simply have to act now. I doubt they will though and what their reasons are for that are open to debate.
Are you sure where did you hear/read that? Brian Keen is quoted by NWEM as saying it is a one year deal.

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Re: Barrow vs Gainsborough

Post by Kieran » Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:29 pm

K_BFC wrote:
Kieran wrote:He's not on a contract, therefore it would cost us nothing to sack him.

The board simply have to act now. I doubt they will though and what their reasons are for that are open to debate.
Are you sure where did you hear/read that? Brian Keen is quoted by NWEM as saying it is a one year deal.
Its been mentioned several times in various interviews, and Tony Keen confirmed it at the AGM.

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Re: Barrow vs Gainsborough

Post by K_BFC » Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:33 pm

Kieran wrote:Its been mentioned several times in various interviews, and Tony Keen confirmed it at the AGM.
Thanks. They clearly have the option then.

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Re: Barrow vs Gainsborough

Post by barrowfan » Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:36 pm

Even if he's on a contract gross misconduct by bringing the club into disrepute would sort that out.

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Re: Barrow vs Gainsborough

Post by thegaffer77 » Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:43 pm

K_BFC wrote:
Kieran wrote:Its been mentioned several times in various interviews, and Tony Keen confirmed it at the AGM.
Thanks. They clearly have the option then.
Depends who they can get for similar money. :roll: IF we had one I'd give the tea lady a go, can't do much worse than Bayles ' mob.
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Re: Barrow vs Gainsborough

Post by barrowfan » Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:46 pm

There will be a queue of potential managers.

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