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Re: Atherstone match thread

Post by K_BFC » Mon Oct 14, 2013 2:24 pm

mickycarrol wrote:Disgusting scenes hope everyone is ok!!! Atherstone take football back to the 80s and should feel the full force of action both the club and these plant pots should be ashamed!! Where any arrests actually made once the plod decided to turn up???
Doubt it the press would have said something, they like the word 'arrest' it suggests guilt. The Daily Mail only reports them saying that one person was injured and these people will feel the full force of the law. Coventry Telegraph reports the same message and says that Atherstone Town are working with the police to track down the perpetrators. There is also an admission from the police that smoke bombs were let off in the town prior to the match as reported on this thread.
Coventry Telegraph wrote:Warwickshire Police said it was working Atherstone Town to track down the perpetrators.

The force said that smoke bombs were also set off during the game and in Atherstone town centre during the course of the day.

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Post by Ste Story » Mon Oct 14, 2013 2:55 pm

Be interested to know where this video evidence the Atherstone manager or chairman mentioned on the radio he'd seen? Also presume the associated press guys there will have alot more snaps they didn't post, possibly featuring the assaults and crimes themselves, which I hope the police or club have been trying to obtain?
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Post by Holkerbird » Mon Oct 14, 2013 3:21 pm

The 606 man was telling someone perhaps Chris? that he had taken plenty of photo's of it all so he will probably come forward.

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Post by Hadrian » Mon Oct 14, 2013 3:32 pm

Ste Story wrote:Be interested to know where this video evidence the Atherstone manager or chairman mentioned on the radio he'd seen? Also presume the associated press guys there will have alot more snaps they didn't post, possibly featuring the assaults and crimes themselves, which I hope the police or club have been trying to obtain?
Said one of his supprters had shown it to him IIRC.

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Post by mickmike wilson » Mon Oct 14, 2013 4:30 pm

Si_Nichols wrote:
Holkerbird wrote: Just to clarify Greg Mills was running to head off some Atherstone fans who were going to get Paddy from behind. No shame there.
I can confirm this was indeed the case. I have asked for thanks to be passed on to both Paddy and Greg
Yes, thx to both of you for correcting me, it was hard for us not there to hear of the trouble happening to you lot and we were kind of getting wound up in that feeling of helplessness knowing that we can not help you out when you needed it the most :cry:

Looks like the subs and our BoD came out of this with brownie points & rightly so, well done to you.

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Post by mickmike wilson » Mon Oct 14, 2013 4:37 pm

Holkerbird wrote:The 606 man was telling someone perhaps Chris? that he had taken plenty of photo's of it all so he will probably come forward.
Those involved should contact him directly Elaine to ensure the evidence gets seen and logged correctly.

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Post by ctfcloyal » Mon Oct 14, 2013 6:05 pm

As a coalville town fan, I must comment on what happened to us fans in the last round against a********e, I wont say there name cuz they are vile, we was also subjected to violence that day, one fan got hit in the leg by a flare/smokebomb, they managed to take one of the flags but we got it back before they could do anything with it, when the trouble started the stewards that was there that day took there hi viz jackets off and joined in, police were present in the ground but did nothing, one of there own fans even punched an oap full on in the face and he was an a********e fan of over 30 yrs, this should not happen at non league football, I know what your fans went through and hope your all ok, all the best for the rest of the season

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Post by Angela » Mon Oct 14, 2013 6:50 pm

email addresses for Warwickshire police - I have sent two different emails.
newsdesk@warwickshire.pnn.police.uk
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contactus@warwickshire.police.uk

I got acknowledgements from both - the first being a proper one from the person themselves.

I have sent two to Atherstone about the 'head' stewards claim that there had been arrests - which he told me just after the 2nd half started. Had to send it twice as the first emil address I got an 'undeliverable' status and the second was to their commercial area - I have not had a response to that which was sent in the early hours of 13-10-13.

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Post by Splodge » Mon Oct 14, 2013 7:45 pm

Can I say how proud I was of how everybody stayed together and helped each other.
That was something I haven't seen in years and hope never to witness again ,from disgusting animals yell bent on hurting anybody they could get to.
But once again thank you to all there for all sticking together .

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Post by Holkerender » Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:58 pm

Before the game in the town square the youth team from Atherstone were getting a foto taken and all the thugs and troublemakers that were in the angel pub came to stand with them and got there foto also taken so most of the troublemakers will be on these fotos so please anyone that has these pics please send them to the warwicks police I was in the market tavern pub and watched all this going on
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Post by thegaffer77 » Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:01 pm

Excellent report on twohundredpercent. Worth a read.
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Post by Esso Blue » Mon Oct 14, 2013 11:20 pm

I've had a bit of time to mull over things from Saturday now. Many things happened in a short period of time and much of it was a blur. I can understand why some on here asked the question of why the Barrow fans didn't retaliate. Having been there I'm pleased that they didn't retaliate or it could have been very much worse. It's perhaps a strange thing to say but the Barrow fans maintained a kind of dignity and earned a lot of respect, certainly from me.

I've been going to Barrow games for about 35 years and this is the one and only time that I have ever left a game early. The football on the pitch has certainly left me feeling like leaving at times but I've never been able to turn my back on my team, until Saturday. Like someone else commented on here, I wanted to stay and applaud the team at the end of the game. But, I was with my 10 year old son and his 12 year old friend. They've been coming with me to away games regularly for the past 3 seasons and they really enjoy the day out and the friendship shown to them, many times by the home (opposition) fans. They have been used to football matches being good, fun days out. Sadly Saturday changed that and left them shocked and upset.

Many people have covered much of the things that happened. I won't repeat things but I'll add a few of my own thoughts here.

I think the events highlighted the difference between stewarding and security. Atherstone had provided extra stewards from the Ricoh Arena. Stewards are there to help get people in/out, guide them around the ground, check tickets and the like. They're not bouncers. This, for me, is where it went wrong on the day: Atherstone failed to provide adequate security. This is ultimately why we left early. I was not confident that we would be safe at the end of the game. I am pleased that those who stayed to the end did manage to leave the ground safely.

Atherstone cannot deny that they knew there was a risk of trouble. As we were queuing at the turnstille one of the stewards looked at me and the 2 boys and said words to the effect, "Watch out there are a few idiots around". I don't think he was referring to the 2 boys. ;)

When the "segregated area" was invaded the boys had gone to get a snack from the burger van. I went to check on them. A Barrow fan was on the phone to the emergency services I believe and I clearly heard him say, "The Barrow fans are being attacked" and he then had to give the address of the ground. I find it incredible that the club or anyone could be allowed to refuse entry when someone has rung 999 to say "Help! We're being attacked."Do the police have to ask permission to come in and help?

At this point I couldn't find one of the boys (Harry) and my son told me that he'd gone back in to see what was happening. Next moment Harry emerged from the melee around the entrance near the burger van. He had been ushered to safety by some Barrow fans.I don't know exactly who they were and I am extremely grateful to them for their bravery/gallantry/kindness/selflessness (not quite sure what to call it but I owe them many thanks).

I saw 3 people with obvious facial injuries and I'm sure many others had hidden cuts and bruises.

When I was checking on the boys at the burger van a smoke cannister crashed into the side of the van, narrowly missing a crowd of people and the serving hatch into the van. At the time, this was accompanied by Barrow fans rushing out of the entrance from the segregated area. I believe the burger van owner thought the Barrow fans had started trouble and were throwing things at the burger van. The owner clearly felt threatened and there was a confrontation with a Barrow fan where there was a lot of shouting and posturing but no violence. A woman Barrow fan (sorry, I don't know many people's names) intervened and managed to calm things down, making it clear that it was the Atherstone 'fans' who were the source of the trouble.

When we did leave I spoke to a couple of Atherstone fans near the turnstile. I asked them where the poilce had been (they were nearby at this stage) and I was told that the police had been there before the game but had left before kick-off. I believe one of the people I spoke to was a club official.I asked some other questions and he simply kept answering resignedly, "What else can we do?". The answer is that you can make adequate security provisions, not just stewarding. Security may be more expensive but the lack of it may well now cost them very dearly.

I feel genuinely sorry for the true Atherstone fans. Their club is being ruined by a gang of roving nutters who may never go again.

I still plan to be at Brackley and I hope I'll have two enthusiastic young fans with me. :scarf:

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Post by Down The Park » Tue Oct 15, 2013 12:15 am

Esso Blue wrote: I was with my 10 year old son and his 12 year old friend. They've been coming with me to away games regularly for the past 3 seasons and they really enjoy the day out and the friendship shown to them, many times by the home (opposition) fans. They have been used to football matches being good, fun days out. Sadly Saturday changed that and left them shocked and upset.
Out of everything I have read I find this the most upsetting. Two youngsters hopefully future fans enjoying a nice day out having to witness barbaric thugs from another era. Hope they get past it and continue to travel, support Barrow AFC and this becomes just a bad memory.

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Post by BristolBluebird » Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:20 am

very interesting lets get tweeting the police http://twohundredpercent.net/?p=24158&u ... edpercent) it shows how thick they are

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Post by minion2 » Tue Oct 15, 2013 1:19 pm

I telephoned Warwickshire police last night with our statements, and was told that the person in charge of the investigation would contact me if they wanted my statement. I felt a bit disheartened to be honest. Anyway, trawling on here a bit later, I found the email address of Warwickshire police and decided to send our offerings anyway, having gone to the trouble of typing them out.

This morning I had a really nice voice mail message from a Sargeant from the North Warwickshire police, who thanked me very much for the statements which he had recieved and that they were discussing the matter at a high level and he thought that the matter was going to be passed on to Nuneaton CID to pick up the formal investigation. He said that the police were going to act very positively on the statements they had recieved and the photos that were in the press and bring the perpetrators to justice.

I thought that this sounded very positive; and rightly so.

We had contemplated taking our two boys to this match, and with hindsight am so glad that we didn't. It won't stop me taking them to other matches, mind.

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