Commercial side

[Steeley]

I meant the bird thing looks like the holister logo

'Bird thing' is a generous description!

Do we know if this is going to be an actual logo used by the club?

[The Real Slim Azza]

I meant the bird thing looks like the holister logo

'Bird thing' is a generous description!

Do we know if this is going to be an actual logo used by the club?

Yes that huge eagle boeing 747 thing is on the official site home page and has appeared on other awful items Playerlayer have designed.

Casson likes it so I can't see it going anywhere, it looks really poor and Americanised. it's the sort of thing you wouldd see on an American Football teams jersey.

[Ste Story]

'Bird thing' is a generous description!

Do we know if this is going to be an actual logo used by the club?

Yes that huge eagle boeing 747 thing is on the official site home page and has appeared on other awful items Playerlayer have designed.

Casson likes it so I can't see it going anywhere, it looks really poor and Americanised. it's the sort of thing you wouldd see on an American Football teams jersey.

+1

It's beyond awful, clearly been designed by someone who has a bit of idea about design but absolutely no grasp or appreciation of the club or football in general.

[The Real Slim Azza]

Yes that huge eagle boeing 747 thing is on the official site home page and has appeared on other awful items Playerlayer have designed.

Casson likes it so I can't see it going anywhere, it looks really poor and Americanised. it's the sort of thing you wouldd see on an American Football teams jersey.

+1

It's beyond awful, clearly been designed by someone who has a bit of idea about design but absolutely no grasp or appreciation of the club or football in general.

Like a tattoo picked from a folder of many other tattoos.

[JimmyCrabstick]

Is the shirt a 'glow in the dark' garment?

[barrowaberdeen]

It's been 30 years plus since I last had to employ the phrase 'I wouldnae wear it to the tatties!' however this seems an apposite moment. Dreadful.

[tictactoe]

I hope they aren't the real prices either - too expensive imo

[Gazza]

This is a season after season balls up. My wife phoned the club shop today to ask about shirts only to be told, they are 3 weeks away yet and were going to be about £40 for adults. Not allowed to order any (what the [SwearFilter]) but could give contact details for when they come in. We did that last year after being told the same and were never contacted. When we went in we were told none of the sizes we wanted were left as the people who pre-ordered had snapped them all up ! Peter when are the club going to up their game regards this and general club merchandise? Every season we miss the same trick but we were led to believe these issues would not arise in future. It's Fathers Day on Sunday and the holidays coming up. How many could they have sold this week alone if they had their act together? Sure we will get the same excuses about the suppliers but this to me is just another example of amateurish planning and incompetent commercial awareness. When you go to a supplier, surely you go and tell them what you want and when you want them and they tell you whether they can do it or not. Once they agree they can and you go ahead with the order, then that is a contract. If they don't meet it then they are in breach of said contract. We should therefore as compensation be getting a better deal than originally agreed as a result of this and I assume the cost to the supporters will reflect this? It is a bloody joke that we again have to wait until the 2nd week in July if we are lucky. Come on this is basic commercial planning for goodness sake.

[boyliegladbach]

Good post that gazza, I won't be buying one.
I went to that thing in bar in mid April when Paul Casson showed us the shirt , I recall him saying that hopefully by end of May they would be for sale.

[Moribund]

This is a season after season balls up. My wife phoned the club shop today to ask about shirts only to be told, they are 3 weeks away yet and were going to be about £40 for adults. Not allowed to order any (what the [SwearFilter]) but could give contact details for when they come in. We did that last year after being told the same and were never contacted. When we went in we were told none of the sizes we wanted were left as the people who pre-ordered had snapped them all up ! Peter when are the club going to up their game regards this and general club merchandise? Every season we miss the same trick but we were led to believe these issues would not arise in future. It's Fathers Day on Sunday and the holidays coming up. How many could they have sold this week alone if they had their act together? Sure we will get the same excuses about the suppliers but this to me is just another example of amateurish planning and incompetent commercial awareness. When you go to a supplier, surely you go and tell them what you want and when you want them and they tell you whether they can do it or not. Once they agree they can and you go ahead with the order, then that is a contract. If they don't meet it then they are in breach of said contract. We should therefore as compensation be getting a better deal than originally agreed as a result of this and I assume the cost to the supporters will reflect this? It is a bloody joke that we again have to wait until the 2nd week in July if we are lucky. Come on this is basic commercial planning for goodness sake.

Not sure you're aware, but there's plenty of Premier League teams without their 2015/16 shirts on sale. Man United's are expected to be on sale on August 1, and they've probably got the best commercial team in the land.

[Stephen Leonard]

I think the Man Utd shirt launch date of 1st August is because their contract with Nike runs until 31st July and addidas don't take over until 1st August. So their new kit will be released on the first available date of the new suppliers contract

[The Real Slim Azza]

This is a season after season balls up. My wife phoned the club shop today to ask about shirts only to be told, they are 3 weeks away yet and were going to be about £40 for adults. Not allowed to order any (what the [SwearFilter]) but could give contact details for when they come in. We did that last year after being told the same and were never contacted. When we went in we were told none of the sizes we wanted were left as the people who pre-ordered had snapped them all up ! Peter when are the club going to up their game regards this and general club merchandise? Every season we miss the same trick but we were led to believe these issues would not arise in future. It's Fathers Day on Sunday and the holidays coming up. How many could they have sold this week alone if they had their act together? Sure we will get the same excuses about the suppliers but this to me is just another example of amateurish planning and incompetent commercial awareness. When you go to a supplier, surely you go and tell them what you want and when you want them and they tell you whether they can do it or not. Once they agree they can and you go ahead with the order, then that is a contract. If they don't meet it then they are in breach of said contract. We should therefore as compensation be getting a better deal than originally agreed as a result of this and I assume the cost to the supporters will reflect this? It is a bloody joke that we again have to wait until the 2nd week in July if we are lucky. Come on this is basic commercial planning for goodness sake.

I say this every year and get slated for pointing it out.

I love it when they pretend to take names haha

[tictactoe]

Moribund you seem very defensive of the club over this - are you not fed up that this happens season after season? Genuine question for you and anyone else and not wishing to start an argument over it, but every year is the same and it's embarrassing

[Jameston1]

I also put my name down for the second batch of shirts last season and was told i would be called as soon as they were in.

in the end I went in and asked if they had any left and they said "no, the people who put their names down were contacted and given first refusal on them" yet I was never contacted.

i agree with regards to the commercial side - it is being very poorly organised year after year and its the same now even with new directors. I have worked in marketing and commerce and it is not rocket science to get the little things right.

in this day and age, with a club so close to the community hearts - saying whatever it takes to wriggle out of the truth makes people lose faith and trust... end of

[Moribund]

Moribund you seem very defensive of the club over this - are you not fed up that this happens season after season? Genuine question for you and anyone else and not wishing to start an argument over it, but every year is the same and it's embarrassing

Hardly defensive, just realistic. Stuff like this doesn't matter at all. If it got to half way through pre-season and we were still playing in an old kit with "Goodfellow" on the back, then yeah, it looks silly, but as we're still in line with most clubs I don't see why people are making an issue out of things.

It got to the point where going to a Barrow game was depressing and dire. Last season was amazing and mostly enjoyable again. Just seems some people miss the misery.