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Post by Holkerbird » Thu Nov 05, 2015 4:44 pm

Doesn't that say it all about that club. They had no first aiders present and offered nothing in the way of protection against thugs who had behaved badly in the cup tie previously.
They get the fans they deserve and I am going to write to the FA and make a complaint against that club for issuing a statement that supports hooligans.
I hope others do the same.
I will also be writing to that poor apology of a football club as well.

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Post by Kieran » Thu Nov 05, 2015 4:56 pm

Freya wrote:What a horrible, backwards town Atherstone is. Been reading through some Facebook comments of some locals and they are still convinced that these lads have done no wrong, as if attacking pensioners is ok. Some saying all they did was run on a pitch and take a flag. One saying no one was injured. Pure ignorance! Glad they are getting harsh sentences.
Its a town full of people that obviously haven't got a brain cell between them, you only need to read some of them facebook comments to work that out. Absolutely deluded!

They've even got a facebook group going now called "support the Atherstone lads", and a petition. Good luck with that one! :lol:

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Post by Steelworks End » Thu Nov 05, 2015 5:01 pm

Those who were at Atherstone will long remember the level of unprovoked, pre-meditated violence unleashed against the Barrow supporters - including youngsters & senior citizens - and the players warming up on the pitch at half time.

Trouble had been brewing before the match; we were advised that, as Barrow fans, it would not be in our best interests to go into certain pubs, and there was a definite menacing atmosphere in parts of the town centre with groups of youths congregating in a square and letting off flares / smoke bombs. Despite that, the level of stewarding and policing at the match was inadequate and unable to deal with the violence.

To their credit, the Barrow supporters didn't react to the attack, other than to protect themselves and the vulnerable amongst us.

Those yobs - I hesitate to call them Atherstone supporters, because I very much doubt that they had any allegiance to the club - deserve everything that they got. Having said that, it seems from Bingo's post above, that the club are not exactly condemning those responsible - a case of mis-stating the facts, which could be viewed by the FA of bringing the game into disrepute?

Thanks to the Barrow supporters who gave evidence to the courts to ensure that those responsible were successfully prosecuted and saw that justice was done.

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Post by ant » Thu Nov 05, 2015 5:22 pm

Mass e-mail attack to their club for backing hooligans!
Seasons to be cheerful.Part 16 3/4 :skill:

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Post by K-Man » Thu Nov 05, 2015 5:31 pm

Haha that facebook page. They're setting up a government petition that needs 100k signatures and they are organising a bucket collection. Any sentence is obviously bad for their families and that is a shame but the way they are talking about these lads saying they are good lads and got over excited. They are young men attacking the elderly,disabled, women and children! They should put the shoe on the other foot.

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Post by K-Man » Thu Nov 05, 2015 5:35 pm

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Post by Thelandlord » Thu Nov 05, 2015 5:39 pm

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Post by Holkerbird » Thu Nov 05, 2015 7:00 pm

By Tamworth Herald | Posted: November 05, 2015


Photographs taken on the day of the incident at the Atherstone Town football match.

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EIGHT rampaging Atherstone Town supporters who confronted rival fans during half-time in an FA Cup game at the club's Sheepy Road ground have been given custodial sentences totalling more than 14½ years.

All admitted violent disorder which marred Adders' game against Barrow FC two years ago. They received individual sentences of between 19 and 27 months.

During the violent, short-lived incident, some ten, mainly elderly, Barrow supporters were injured and children were separated from their parents.

No Atherstone supporters were injured.


"It is hard to imagine a more terrifying event happening at a match," commented Judge Andrew Lockhart QC, before sentencing the eight at Warwick Crown Court, sitting in Leamington, yesterday. (Wednesday)

"Those who went to this match expected to be safe. They attended with families."

The judge said 21 people were due to appear before him this week for sentencing and added: "I take the view at least 50 Atherstone fans were involved [in the incident]."

Flares were let off during the violent melee, which the judge said he estimated lasted four to five minutes. Atherstone fans who raced across the pitch to confront and attack people who had travelled down from Barrow for the match, took a flag from their stand as a trophy and burned it.

Violence erupted on Saturday October 12 2013 when Atherstone Town played Barrow FC at home in the FA Cup third qualifying round fixture.

"Atherstone were several leagues below Barrow and were not expected to win," added Judge Lockhart, who said there had been an undercurrent of bad feeling.

In the run-up to the game, flares which burn at 100 degrees Fahrenheit were distributed at a public house where a large number of people who attended the match were present.

Flares were thrown onto the pitch and a woman received a burn injury during the violence.

The judge said around 150 people usually attended fixtures at Sheepy Road but 825 were expected at the FA Cup fixture. The two teams' fans were segregated and 16 security personnel and stewards were on duty.

Atherstone were 4-0 down at half-time. When the score reached 3-0 the home side's mood changed and Atherstone supporters were chanting and gesticulating towards the Barrow supporters and used a loud hailer to threaten that they would 'see them' at half-time.

Two groups from the Atherstone stand dashed across the pitch and confronted their visitors, the vast majority of whom were very young, middle-aged or old people. "Certainly it would have been obvious that the vast majority would not have wanted to fight," said Judge Lockhart.

The unruly Atherstone supporters were aggressive and intimidating. Flares were lit as they marched round the rear of a goal area and "one impacted into the arm of a woman who was standing there.

"Barrow fans were terrified. No-one was in any doubt that serious violence was going to be used.

"Those in the Atherstone stand cheered.

"At least one flare was lit and thrown into the Barrow stand. A Barrow fan threw that back out. Atherstone fans took umbrage and went into the Barrow stand."

The judge described the violence as "indiscriminate, immediate and vicious." He said: "It was not a fight between two sets of thugs. Atherstone fans were just attacking anybody regardless of whether they were elderly or not.

"There did not seem to be many Barrow fans who did not get punched."

Judge Lockhart said one man in the Barrow stand described what happened as "total mayhem", adding: "in 60 years of attending matches he had never seen anything like it. He really thought he was going to be assaulted that day."

Atherstone fans that remained in their stand after the first group went towards the visitors chose to join in and formed a second group.

Two of Barrow's substitute players who were warming up on the pitch during half-time were punched.

A 17-year-old girl who had a flag taken from her suffered an asthma attack when she tried to retrieve it. "All over the stand were people who had been attacked. A man in his 70s who could only walk with the aid of a walking stick received a cut on the bridge of his nose," added the judge.

At the start of the sentencing hearing, prosecutor David Lee said the material he had available did not show every single aspect of the case. "It is impossible to say what may or may not have happened off the camera."

However, none of the eight had challenged footage recorded at the game and shown in court.

Mr Lee said there had been no reports of excessive drinking by Barrow fans who attended the match.

When a lighted flair which had been thrown at the Barrow fans was thrown back, this incident triggered a reaction for members of the first group of attackers to charge into the Barrow stand past stewards.

"Punches were thrown and in some cases kicks, including to an elderly person. It was described as chaos or whatever."

The second group of Atherstone fans vaulted over a wall, ran across the pitch and assaulted Barrow 'subs' on the pitch.

When the Atherstone fans went back to their stand, the stolen Barrow flag was set alight, "which clearly caused terror to the people around it," added Mr Lee.

Judge Lockhart said a clear message would be sent out through the courts that football players on the pitch would be protected from assaults.

He imposed football banning orders for a minimum of six years on all defendants to, hopefully, prevent violence at future matches. The eight are banned from attending all matches in England and Wales.

No orders were made for compensation or costs but victim surcharge orders will be drawn up for each defendant, to be paid within two years.

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The longest sentence, of 27 months, was given to foreman scaffolder Ben Robert Cox, 27, of Tannery Close, Atherstone, who has previous convictions for public order and violence offences

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Re: Atherston Matters

Post by Holkerbird » Thu Nov 05, 2015 7:02 pm

Mr Cox must be one of their fine upstanding citizens because apparently everyone loves these lads.
Thank God we don't live there. It must be like the Wild West.

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Post by Holkerbird » Thu Nov 05, 2015 7:18 pm

Well that's my e-mail sent to them. I await their reply.

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Post by Bingo » Thu Nov 05, 2015 8:07 pm

If you read Twitter and Facebook a barrow fan fell over and 50 Atherstone fans rushed over to help him up

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Re: Atherston Matters

Post by barrowaberdeen » Thu Nov 05, 2015 8:10 pm

This is my third attempt at a post, I very rarely comment on this as I disagree with a lot of what is said, including from people who are good friends of mine.

I can't stand these badly dressed, inbred, roidy boy, liberty taking jakies, just to be clear. Both my son and I took a few lumps at this. And 90% of them were just neds, not even hooligans.

However the sentences are ridiculous. You can't have a situation where football offences are being judged completely differently to any other assaults, sex crimes, death by dangerous driving, manslaughter. Some of the people jailed haven't thrown a punch.

I would be much happier if I thought it was about what happened on the day.

The only person who should get the jail is the one who punched GC, if they even know which one it was. This has got little to do with justice, and everything to do with a set of authorities in the midlands trying to justify themselves after making a spectacular error in not policing and stewarding adequately, then being made to look foolish in the national media.

I very much respect the difference of opinion of the vast majority who I was there with.

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Post by Zak » Thu Nov 05, 2015 8:22 pm

I don't know what happened because I wasn't there, but...
barrowaberdeen wrote:Some of the people jailed haven't thrown a punch
...aye.
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Post by bluebird90 » Thu Nov 05, 2015 8:47 pm

barrowaberdeen wrote:This is my third attempt at a post, I very rarely comment on this as I disagree with a lot of what is said, including from people who are good friends of mine.

I can't stand these badly dressed, inbred, roidy boy, liberty taking jakies, just to be clear. Both my son and I took a few lumps at this. And 90% of them were just neds, not even hooligans.

However the sentences are ridiculous. You can't have a situation where football offences are being judged completely differently to any other assaults, sex crimes, death by dangerous driving, manslaughter. Some of the people jailed haven't thrown a punch.

I would be much happier if I thought it was about what happened on the day.

The only person who should get the jail is the one who punched GC, if they even know which one it was. This has got little to do with justice, and everything to do with a set of authorities in the midlands trying to justify themselves after making a spectacular error in not policing and stewarding adequately, then being made to look foolish in the national media.

I very much respect the difference of opinion of the vast majority who I was there with.
The justice system may get a lot of things wrong but in many other cases it gets things correct. Just because in some cases other offenders haven't been punished appropriately, doesn't mean that these people shouldn't.

When any person enters the pitch and takes the action that these cowards did, then they are running the risk of ending up in jail. The sentence may make an example of these people but it also sets a good warning to others about the risks they are taking as well as protecting genuine supporters.

Maybe the lack of police and stewarding should form a separate enquiry and people held accountable for that, but it can not be used as an excuse for the behaviour of cowards.

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