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Re: Paul Ogden

Post by Bingo » Sun Aug 06, 2017 11:15 pm

Maybe people can ask questions at the meet the manager / owner night on Tuesday

If I remember rightly Cox was having a good moan about having to do everything when he lost his assistant

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Re: Paul Ogden

Post by mickmike wilson » Sun Aug 06, 2017 11:46 pm

On paper it's a good appointment & hopefully Coxy is happy to have someone to take on some of the stuff that gets in his way of managing the team as he'd like, But for him not to be in that meeting seems strange to me & it's an Odd interview.

Guess Tuesday will reveal all, Coxy is hugely important to BAFC.

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Re: Paul Ogden

Post by Jonty » Sun Aug 06, 2017 11:55 pm

This is going to be our strategy for idemtifying and communicating player targets. Cox can't do everything and there's no overlap of duties here. Cox / Ogden will have the final say player wise. Cassons will ok (or not) the financial framework of any deal. Seems pretty straightforward to me.
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Re: Paul Ogden

Post by Pedro » Mon Aug 07, 2017 12:39 am

Bingo wrote: Sun Aug 06, 2017 11:15 pm Maybe people can ask questions at the meet the manager / owner night on Tuesday

If I remember rightly Cox was having a good moan about having to do everything when he lost his assistant
Yes but he now has a assistant.So why this promotion now?
Call me cynical but I think Cox will be on the move followed by the statement we will replace him by as good or better.
Maybe now Straker has gone it's time to purge Cox for asking for money for players

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Re: Paul Ogden

Post by Pedro » Mon Aug 07, 2017 12:44 am

blue nige wrote: Sun Aug 06, 2017 6:52 pm I'm sure Paul Casson (yes I know! )said at the meeting in the crossbar that after the fa cup run the loss was about £220,000 still a lot but not as bad as people like to think or in some cases seem to want!
Is that before he gets tax relief against his Company in the USA depending on the rate it could be alot les

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Re: Paul Ogden

Post by Pedro » Mon Aug 07, 2017 12:46 am

Lowtower wrote: Sun Aug 06, 2017 6:54 pm It is a strange interview, Its plain to see for anyone used to reading club statements that we aren't dealing with football people in the slightest with the Cassons.

Hopefully Cox has okayed the situation though as this sort of thing (bringing people in over the manager -I'm thinking Newcastle united here in recent times) has a history of [SwearFilter] them off
You are very negative.

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Re: Paul Ogden

Post by Lowtower » Mon Aug 07, 2017 6:15 am

Pedro wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2017 12:46 am
Lowtower wrote: Sun Aug 06, 2017 6:54 pm It is a strange interview, Its plain to see for anyone used to reading club statements that we aren't dealing with football people in the slightest with the Cassons.

Hopefully Cox has okayed the situation though as this sort of thing (bringing people in over the manager -I'm thinking Newcastle united here in recent times) has a history of [SwearFilter] them off
You are very negative.
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Re: Paul Ogden

Post by The Real Slim Azza » Mon Aug 07, 2017 7:53 am

“Part of what we saw as the failure of last season was that when we got to December and January, there was no-one who could clearly lead the line in terms of ‘this is the plan for strengthening the squad, this is who we are looking at, this is what we need’, and everything like that.
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Re: Paul Ogden

Post by mightywhite » Mon Aug 07, 2017 9:16 am

People have been moaning (some making reference in this thread) that the directors etc aren't football people. We have appointed a football person. People still aren't happy! I thought given the concern over cassons football knowledge people would be delighted with this. Let the club work out the internal politics.

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Re: Paul Ogden

Post by The Real Slim Azza » Mon Aug 07, 2017 9:26 am

mightywhite wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2017 9:16 am People have been moaning (some making reference in this thread) that the directors etc aren't football people. We have appointed a football person. People still aren't happy! I thought given the concern over cassons football knowledge people would be delighted with this. Let the club work out the internal politics.
A football based appointment for on the pitch activities.

Paul Ogden isn't a footballing business man who knows how to cast an eye over every penny with regards income and expenditure. He is there to find players and get their contracts ticked off.

If you want an example of an actual footballing businessman look at Neil Joy at Fylde. He has experience as a chief exec from his time at Oldham where he over looked the clubs business operations for 4 years on a tight budget.
Commenting on the appointment AFC Fylde Chairman David Haythornthwaite said: “Neil has a wealth of experience and he has been involved with Oldham for many years. Not only does he know how to run a football club but importantly how to run one where every pound is maximised and costs controlled.”
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Re: Paul Ogden

Post by spirit of 1990 » Mon Aug 07, 2017 10:13 am

Regarding the Q&A, I think this will now be held on Friday evening. The reasoning I think is so we can have people from the playing and management side in attendance with there being a home game the following day.

I'll post the details later under a new topic so it doesn't get lost in this one.
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Re: Paul Ogden

Post by spongebobsquarepants » Mon Aug 07, 2017 10:35 am

The similarities between a Mike Ashley run Newcastle and a Paul Casson run Barrow AFC are frightening.

Andrew Casson is throwing his weight around behind the scenes hence the Strakers walking/being sacked.

It will end in tears.
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Re: Paul Ogden

Post by Lowtower » Mon Aug 07, 2017 10:38 am

spongebobsquarepants wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2017 10:35 am The similarities between a Mike Ashley run Newcastle and a Paul Casson run Barrow AFC are frightening.

Andrew Casson is throwing his weight around behind the scenes hence the Strakers walking/being sacked.

It will end in tears.
I've heard whisperings of Casson junior being a bit of a [SwearFilter] myself.

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Re: Paul Ogden

Post by Hadrian » Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:10 am

A lot of reasonable points in this thread plus the usual conspiracy theorists grasping at straws, some of which may be imaginary.

It will not have gone un-unnoticed at other clubs that Barrow have been so successful with some of their discoveries from lower leagues. It may be that questions have been asked about who might be Barrow's 'secret weapon' in the scouting role and then there's the possibility that Mr Ogden had already been approached from elsewhere with a similar offer with a short expiry date to that he has now accepted at Barrow.

If one element of the club's sustainability plan is to nurture talent, acknowledging that some of the more successful will attract offers from clubs further up the pecking order, then securing Mr Ogden's position is a shrewd business move as well as taking some of the workload from the manager - who may well be a target for other teams in due course.

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Re: Paul Ogden

Post by Hadrian » Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:11 am

Lowtower wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2017 10:38 am I've heard whisperings of Casson junior being a bit of a [SwearFilter] myself.
How strange!

I've heard he speaks ever so well of you...

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