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Re: Where do we go from here?

Post by The Tomahawk Kid » Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:07 pm

Chris Benoit wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:29 am From what I have been hearing about Cox he's not exactly an angel in it all anyway. He's done a great job of making it all look like Cassons the bad guy. The Casson mob are far from perfect but they aren't completely at fault for this whole situation. Cox seemingly brought a lot on himself.
How can you say that? You've heard no more than anybody else.

The way I, and many others, see it:
1) Paul Cox was refused when asking for money for new players last January.
2) He asked again, recently, for money to strengthen the squad, and again, was refused.

What was he supposed to do? Wait until next January to be refused, once more?
He 'saw the light' (who wouldn't?) and moved on...

Paul Casson wants promotion? I doubt that very much. It's becoming fairly obvious what Paul Casson wants... ;)
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Re: Where do we go from here?

Post by The Tomahawk Kid » Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:14 pm

Nigel Bamford wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 5:40 pm I think he would be unwise to say he wants promotion if, in fact, he doesn't.
He's said many things relating to the team, stadium and club - none have come to fruition.
The guy spins a good yarn!
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Re: Where do we go from here?

Post by tommy2thumbs » Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:17 pm

The Tomahawk Kid wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:07 pm
How can you say that? You've heard no more than anybody else.

The way I, and many others, see it:
1) Paul Cox was refused when asking for money for new players last January.
My theory, and one or two others have hinted,

at the start of last season, Casson said here id £xxx your budget for the season do what you want, but when it's spent, then that's it

when Cox asked for more in January, the answer was along the lines of, you've had your budget & spent it, there is no more

as I said,just my theory
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Re: Where do we go from here?

Post by Bingo » Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:19 pm

The Tomahawk Kid wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:07 pm
Chris Benoit wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:29 am From what I have been hearing about Cox he's not exactly an angel in it all anyway. He's done a great job of making it all look like Cassons the bad guy. The Casson mob are far from perfect but they aren't completely at fault for this whole situation. Cox seemingly brought a lot on himself.
How can you say that? You've heard no more than anybody else.

The way I, and many others, see it:
1) Paul Cox was refused when asking for money for new players last January.
2) He asked again, recently, for money to strengthen the squad, and again, was refused.

What was he supposed to do? Wait until next January to be refused, once more?
He 'saw the light' (who wouldn't?) and moved on...

Paul Casson wants promotion? I doubt that very much. It's becoming fairly obvious what Paul Casson wants... ;)
How can you say that ?

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Re: Where do we go from here?

Post by The Tomahawk Kid » Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:23 pm

How can I say that? What Paul Casson wants?
Intuition! :D
And reading between the lines...
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Re: Where do we go from here?

Post by Chris Benoit » Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:23 pm

The Tomahawk Kid wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:07 pm
Chris Benoit wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:29 am From what I have been hearing about Cox he's not exactly an angel in it all anyway. He's done a great job of making it all look like Cassons the bad guy. The Casson mob are far from perfect but they aren't completely at fault for this whole situation. Cox seemingly brought a lot on himself.
How can you say that? You've heard no more than anybody else.

The way I, and many others, see it:
1) Paul Cox was refused when asking for money for new players last January.
2) He asked again, recently, for money to strengthen the squad, and again, was refused.

What was he supposed to do? Wait until next January to be refused, once more?
He 'saw the light' (who wouldn't?) and moved on...

Paul Casson wants promotion? I doubt that very much. It's becoming fairly obvious what Paul Casson wants... ;)
Well like I said I had heard it. Not once did I say it was factual. By the same reasoning maybe people should back off slating the owner too as they've also "heard no more than anyone else. You can't chastise one person and defend another if you act how you are going on at me.
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Re: Where do we go from here?

Post by The Tomahawk Kid » Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:28 pm

NOBODY knows what's gone on and none of us ever will.
Reading between the lines and reading past comments made by Casson and Cox in the EM enables one to make an informed assumption, however.
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Re: Where do we go from here?

Post by MikeRenney » Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:29 pm

Tomahawk Kid you need to pay more attention to Chris Benoit.

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Re: Where do we go from here?

Post by The Tomahawk Kid » Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:32 pm

I'd rather pay more attention to what I've read from 'official' statements and comments made in the press. It's not difficult to make an 'informed' opinion from those statements/comments.
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Re: Where do we go from here?

Post by The Tomahawk Kid » Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:36 pm

One comment that's 'food for thought' - it was made by a steward - so only 'hear say' obviously.
The steward informed me that Paul Cox's decision to leave was based on him not receiving an increase in salary (he'd asked, apparently). However, I have to say, I took the steward's comment with a 'pinch of salt'.
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Re: Where do we go from here?

Post by whitty1969 » Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:49 pm

The Tomahawk Kid wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:36 pm One comment that's 'food for thought' - it was made by a steward - so only 'hear say' obviously.
The steward informed me that Paul Cox's decision to leave was based on him not receiving an increase in salary (he'd asked, apparently). However, I have to say, I took the steward's comment with a 'pinch of salt'.
Thank god for that, he was on enough

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Re: Where do we go from here?

Post by Chris Benoit » Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:07 pm

The Tomahawk Kid wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:28 pm NOBODY knows what's gone on and none of us ever will.
Reading between the lines and reading past comments made by Casson and Cox in the EM enables one to make an informed assumption, however.
Aye. Just like "nobody" knew things like signings before they were announced. The people I have spoken to in the past have usually been bang on with regards to club news and I doubt that they would gain anything from telling me about Paul Cox sudden (if you could really say that) departure.

Sure, things aren't exactly screaming out investment at the minute but you even admitted yourself that you are forming an opinion off stuff that is not definitive. Maybe try waiting and seeing what happens in due course rather than slating the club for something you aren't actually 100% sure about yourself.
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Re: Where do we go from here?

Post by tictactoe » Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:19 pm

Let's face it for whatever reason and whoevers fault it is Paul cox has gone and we need to bring someone in or give Moore the job if that's what casson wants asap to get some stability and start improving
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Re: Where do we go from here?

Post by Chris Benoit » Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:23 pm

tictactoe wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:19 pm Let's face it for whatever reason and whoevers fault it is Paul cox has gone and we need to bring someone in or give Moore the job if that's what casson wants asap to get some stability and start improving
Well that's the jist of what I am getting at. It's happened and people need to get over it rather than slating PC constantly.
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Re: Where do we go from here?

Post by Uncle Mort » Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:43 pm

There is a lot more "how did we end up here" rather than "where do we go from here"! So ... looking ahead, I think we need an experienced manager. Sorry, but what I have heard from Moore so far does not suggest that he has the self confidence or credibility to motivate the squad.

We have a pretty good set of players IMO. I would say that Moore, Jones, Diarra, Gomis, Yussuf, Harrison are definitely up to it, probably Nieskins too. Jury out on Audel (but must be some good based on his past career in FL) and Hall. White probably only good if we play the 'lump it in the box' type of game.

We need a system and organisation, which an experienced manager should be able to bring.

We are where we are. Time to stop the recriminations and move on.
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