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[whitty1969]

If Paul's here next home game he can see for himself... don't think he'll be pleased with what he sees... seem to be going backwards at an alarming rate of knots...strong derectives needed from the owner

Can't see Moore lasting long at this rate. 1 win in 9 ???
Will we get anything against Hartlepool or Orient ?
Football is no better, if he thinks we played good today then i think he has been smoking with Pedro.
Clueless, quiet, no ideas, wrong formation ....... Players are not performing.....
Crowds are going to drop further with this guy in charge.
I like stability and chopping and changing a manager is not the answer
However I feel we have got it wrong big time employing Moore to take us forward

[Matty]

Come on lads. Stop all this negativity. Try and show some positivity

The new lad on the gate has got a bit quicker at letting people in.

The dandelion that's usually present where I stand has been removed.

[Lowtower]

The new lad on the gate has got a bit quicker at letting people in.

The dandelion that's usually present where I stand has been removed.

Or resigned ?

[Matty]

The dandelion that's usually present where I stand has been removed.

Or resigned ?

Died 20 mins into the second half.

[russell_anderson]

I don't for one second believe that Paul Cox was allowed to get the players he wanted. I have no idea whether Cox or Ogden was responsible for bringing in players last season but it should have been obvious to anybody after a few games that the level of player brought in this season was far inferior to last season. Whether that was because whoever chose the players last season was not allowed to do it this season or whether it was just because the budget available was much lower and therefore we couldn't afford any decent players I have no idea. I'd be pretty sure that Cox resigned because he knew exactly what was going to happen with the players brought in and that he wouldn't be able to do much about it but I'm pretty sure he'd make a better effort than Moore even with what is a distinctly mediocre squad of players. IMO, we've lost 4 of our 6 best players from last season in Livesey, Anderton, Williams and Bennett and of the other 2, Diarra will be out for weeks and Harrison is patently not yet fit. We've also lost 3 more in Beeley, Hannah and Turnbull who would get into the current team as would last season's loanees, Tuton and Wright. Even last season we weren't quite strong enough to get into the playoffs but the current team is a shadow of that team.

[boyliegladbach]

I don't for one second believe that Paul Cox was allowed to get the players he wanted. I have no idea whether Cox or Ogden was responsible for bringing in players last season but it should have been obvious to anybody after a few games that the level of player brought in this season was far inferior to last season. Whether that was because whoever chose the players last season was not allowed to do it this season or whether it was just because the budget available was much lower and therefore we couldn't afford any decent players I have no idea. I'd be pretty sure that Cox resigned because he knew exactly what was going to happen with the players brought in and that he wouldn't be able to do much about it but I'm pretty sure he'd make a better effort than Moore even with what is a distinctly mediocre squad of players. IMO, we've lost 4 of our 6 best players from last season in Livesey, Anderton, Williams and Bennett and of the other 2, Diarra will be out for weeks and Harrison is patently not yet fit. We've also lost 3 more in Beeley, Hannah and Turnbull who would get into the current team as would last season's loanees, Tuton and Wright. Even last season we weren't quite strong enough to get into the playoffs but the current team is a shadow of that team.

Rubbish

[russell_anderson]

I don't for one second believe that Paul Cox was allowed to get the players he wanted. I have no idea whether Cox or Ogden was responsible for bringing in players last season but it should have been obvious to anybody after a few games that the level of player brought in this season was far inferior to last season. Whether that was because whoever chose the players last season was not allowed to do it this season or whether it was just because the budget available was much lower and therefore we couldn't afford any decent players I have no idea. I'd be pretty sure that Cox resigned because he knew exactly what was going to happen with the players brought in and that he wouldn't be able to do much about it but I'm pretty sure he'd make a better effort than Moore even with what is a distinctly mediocre squad of players. IMO, we've lost 4 of our 6 best players from last season in Livesey, Anderton, Williams and Bennett and of the other 2, Diarra will be out for weeks and Harrison is patently not yet fit. We've also lost 3 more in Beeley, Hannah and Turnbull who would get into the current team as would last season's loanees, Tuton and Wright. Even last season we weren't quite strong enough to get into the playoffs but the current team is a shadow of that team.

Rubbish

Well thought answer as usual.

[BTC]

I am genuinely concerned that we are on a downward spiral. Cannot see where the goals will come from. Players look down as do fans and manager.

Two points from the last 5 games isn't a downward spiral - it's surefire relegation.

[Middleton Nick]

Very disappointed with today. We started OK with some decent passing football but what worries me is we don't seem to create much or have any shots on target. I know we scored twice at Sutton but apart from that I don't know where the goals are going to come from.
Feel sorry for Harrison as he has to feed off scraps. I hadn't quite made my mind up on White....................but now I have. He may have a few goals to his name but overall he is not good enough. For his height he should win everything in the air,but sometimes he doesn't even jump and his control is very poor.
After the penalty we just went into meltdown and the game petered out with another defeat.
A small bright light in the shape of Clements who looks like he can do a job.
Still no sound in the stand and worrying times but its on the bus to Hartlepool to see if we can kick into gear.

[Pedro]

If you think what we have seen at this club in the last 5 months is positive your idea of progress is quite strange

You seem to be able to point out what's wrong, but not many suggestions on what you think will make it better.. care to share your enlightened thoughts....

Dead easy he obviously bought the club as a business .
No way are we going to make a profit
In 3 years how far has the Commercial side developed.
Taking money of St Mary's Hospice showed his intent really bad PR.
If he wanted promotion he should have given Cox money for players but that would have meant more money had to be spent.
In short speculate to get us promoted.
900 k is not on players alone it's fake news
Last year we outbid Morecambe a league club for there own full back Beeley ,we brought in Hannah,Turnbull etc all players on decent money and replaced them with poor quality players.
I will be honest Casson does not see us making a profit it's draining his money so he is trying to balance the books.
Relegation is a way of doing that alot of players will leave and costs will be cut.
People keep saying be carefull what you wish for.
Well I may be wrong but to me Casson will take us down he same route as if he pulled out

[Pedro]

Well where do I start? Dixon was brought back last week ( after Moore had done nothing wrong ).in the first half he got away with coming for a ball which wasn't his then hesitated and gave away a needless penalty !
Playing with wingbacks this is ok if you play a high line and that both fullbacks are comfortable with this we failed on both counts when the fullbacks actually pushed forward they either moved inside or hit harmless diagonal balls.
Midfield where is the leader there? no creative presence
No one to make things happen, Harrison was more or less by himself up front white isn't the type of partner he needs.
Then only 1 substitution surely anyone could have performed better than some who were playing today.
Our heads went down too easily and unless we recruit we are certs to go down, to play at home with effectively 2 forwards is nothing short of a disgrace.
We need a leader in midfield two decent wide men and a forward who has energy and scores goals.
I haven't listened to moore yet but the guy doesn't look or talk as though he's a winner, I'm sorry but he needs to go if he makes excuses about luck etc. WELL for a start dixon cost us a point and he picked him, and we were getting beat we still played with 5 at the back and we had clement in midfield who was clearly not match fit left on the pitch. Moore is absolutely CLUELESS.

Mickey Moore read Norman Bodell.

[whitty1969]

Very disappointed with today. We started OK with some decent passing football but what worries me is we don't seem to create much or have any shots on target. I know we scored twice at Sutton but apart from that I don't know where the goals are going to come from.
Feel sorry for Harrison as he has to feed off scraps. I hadn't quite made my mind up on White....................but now I have. He may have a few goals to his name but overall he is not good enough. For his height he should win everything in the air,but sometimes he doesn't even jump and his control is very poor.
After the penalty we just went into meltdown and the game petered out with another defeat.
A small bright light in the shape of Clements who looks like he can do a job.
Still no sound in the stand and worrying times but its on the bus to Hartlepool to see if we can kick into gear.

HaHa. I Said White was as good as a Wheelie bin up front today.
My mate sat next to me said " Don't think so, you get a one two off a wheelie bin"
He really is shocking, no wonder the Wrexham lot couldn't wait to get rid of him !!!!!

[Pedro]

Not bothered listening but he's probably cottoned on to the fact that if he the Cassons hear we knocked it about a bit and didnt hoof it so much thats all they seem to be bothered about.

And don't forget "the match day experience " you know walking home totally distraught wondering how it has all got this bad !

So depressing might even get you to appreciate your Mother in law

[whitty1969]

You seem to be able to point out what's wrong, but not many suggestions on what you think will make it better.. care to share your enlightened thoughts....

Dead easy he obviously bought the club as a business .
No way are we going to make a profit
In 3 years how far has the Commercial side developed.
Taking money of St Mary's Hospice showed his intent really bad PR.
If he wanted promotion he should have given Cox money for players but that would have meant more money had to be spent.
In short speculate to get us promoted.
900 k is not on players alone it's fake news
Last year we outbid Morecambe a league club for there own full back Beeley ,we brought in Hannah,Turnbull etc all players on decent money and replaced them with poor quality players.
I will be honest Casson does not see us making a profit it's draining his money so he is trying to balance the books.
Relegation is a way of doing that alot of players will leave and costs will be cut.
People keep saying be carefull what you wish for.
Well I may be wrong but to me Casson will take us down he same route as if he pulled out

Go to bed Pedro

[blue nige]

Just listened to Moore he's about as inspirational as a bottle of coke that's gone flat! Can't believe that our owners believe that he can keep us up!
His looks and misdemeanor has loser written all over!
Dodd tries to help him by stating that "he inherited this squad " wasn't he assistant manager when they were signed?
If he couldn't see it needed changing with 20 minutes to go then we've got no chance!