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Re: BARROW V MAIDSTONE match thread

Post by barrowfan » Sun Oct 01, 2017 12:13 pm

burntisland wrote: ↑Sun Oct 01, 2017 12:08 pm BOD need to review decision they have made on appointment of MM now not in 90 days!!!!
How many with a say are on the board now? Two?

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Re: BARROW V MAIDSTONE match thread

Post by blue nige » Sun Oct 01, 2017 12:14 pm

The trouble we have now is that we have Moore in charge and when you listen to him talk he doesn`t know whether to stick or bust!
To be successful at anything you stick to one system and stay at it (it might need tweaking now and again).
It`s blatantly obvious a lot of our players aren`t comfortable on the ball (they were not brought in to play that way).

What Moore should have done is to be honest to Paul/Andrew Casson and told them yes i understand what you want but first we need stability!

So because he failed to do this we keep changing formation/players, the last 3 home games have been painful and the fans are getting a raw deal.

If someone doesn`t admit they have got it wrong(for now) then we are certain to be relegated, time to make some tough decisions not in F****** December!

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Re: BARROW V MAIDSTONE match thread

Post by boyliegladbach » Sun Oct 01, 2017 12:17 pm

It was mentioned Friday night about Moore having no assistant or coach, if he's staying then let's get some help in ASAP. However I got the impression they don't seem in any rush, said they have spoke to people though.
Moore is doing everything and hopefully once he has a bit of assistance things might pick up (clutching at straws here like)

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Re: BARROW V MAIDSTONE match thread

Post by spirit of 1990 » Sun Oct 01, 2017 12:48 pm

PRR wrote: ↑Sun Oct 01, 2017 12:04 pm At times in the first half we knocked the ball round pretty well and kept some decent possession but never looked like scoring. We play one pace slowly knocking the ball back and forth from defence to midfield and back again. It's just not going to win football matches. Well not with the present set of players anyway.

Ironically we've had decent footballers here in the recent past stiffled by long ball tactics and now we have average footballers stiffled by their own ability playing a passing game.

Long ball will get results. It's been successful for many average teams over the years and would possibly keep us in the league.

If we continue with the passing game we're trying to play we need a serious injection of quality, some width and the players we have to learn the quickly how to play in the final third and open up defences.

We seem to have the perfect storm for relegation. Average players low on confidence, very few shots on goal or chances even, lack of discipline leading to mistakes costing goals, lack of leadership from the dugout, some players not giving 100%, constantly changing first team, loan players padding out the team, injuries and apathy from the crowd.

Maidstone were a very average team but they are in the payoff places. It wouldn't take much to match their performance but we need to do something quickly before the rot really sets in.

Play to our strengths, we simply don't have the quality. If that's long ball then so be it. Get rid of the deadwood and the players that aren't putting it in for the manager.

Or, hold our hands up now, admit the appointment of Moore was wrong and get an experienced man in to get the best out of what we have. Someone like Paul Cox. That's exactly where we've regressed to, the point before he came in. If AC needs to swallow his pride he needs to do it now, not Christmas, not with a month of the season to go. If he really believes Moore is the man, support him and give him the resources he needs. Cause we need at least five new quality players to get results out of the way we are playing.

There are some strong teams in the Conference North right now and I wouldn't fancy our chances of bouncing straight back.

I actually had a little optimism after the first half but our lack of ideas and effort in the second half indicates a much deeper problem. I can't even see where any win is coming from. If we were to go down you couldn't even argue with it, say we were unlucky or blame injuries. We are playing horseshit pure and simple. And going backwards rapidly to boot.

I was hoping I could post something more positive after a period of reflection after the game, but I just can't.

Shite.

Harry looked ok when he came on, put the effort in at least. New lad looked solid but must be wondering what he's let himself in for. I like Dixon but Moore must be wondering what the [SwearFilter] he did wrong. Harrison looked quality but is totally lost leading the line. Defence is just thrown together at the moment and looked disjointed without looking like shipping too many goals...if that makes sense...Jordon White's confidence looked shot, couldn't even get the basics right. Maidstone won't get an easier away win all season.
Just about a perfect post.
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Re: BARROW V MAIDSTONE match thread

Post by mr_grey » Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:14 pm

boyliegladbach wrote: ↑Sun Oct 01, 2017 12:17 pm It was mentioned Friday night about Moore having no assistant or coach, if he's staying then let's get some help in ASAP. However I got the impression they don't seem in any rush, said they have spoke to people though.
Moore is doing everything and hopefully once he has a bit of assistance things might pick up (clutching at straws here like)
Intersting post.. I even noticed MM was having to sort the subs out with the 4th official and the paperwork.

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Post by mrsenario » Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:18 pm

What could Gary mills add as assistant if we took a punt short term managed to drag a relegated team to wembley

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Post by barrowfan » Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:21 pm

blue nige wrote: ↑Sun Oct 01, 2017 12:14 pm
What Moore should have done is to be honest to Paul/Andrew Casson and told them yes i understand what you want but first we need stability!
Did you mean stability or ability? :lol:

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Post by Lancaster Branch » Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:22 pm

Mills also managed to drag a team that was outside of the relegation zone into it.

Yesterday's man.

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Re: BARROW V MAIDSTONE match thread

Post by boyliegladbach » Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:50 pm

mr_grey wrote: ↑Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:14 pm
boyliegladbach wrote: ↑Sun Oct 01, 2017 12:17 pm It was mentioned Friday night about Moore having no assistant or coach, if he's staying then let's get some help in ASAP. However I got the impression they don't seem in any rush, said they have spoke to people though.
Moore is doing everything and hopefully once he has a bit of assistance things might pick up (clutching at straws here like)
Intersting post.. I even noticed MM was having to sort the subs out with the 4th official and the paperwork.
We even had Mike Forsyth bringing in the cones and picking up bottled after the players had done there warm up

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Re: BARROW V MAIDSTONE match thread

Post by Lowtower » Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:47 pm

boyliegladbach wrote: ↑Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:50 pm
mr_grey wrote: ↑Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:14 pm
Intersting post.. I even noticed MM was having to sort the subs out with the 4th official and the paperwork.
We even had Mike Forsyth bringing in the cones and picking up bottled after the players had done there warm up
He'll probably get the assistants job now.

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Post by Soulboy » Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:49 pm

Multi skilling obviously the way ahead . He will be doing coaching badges next😆

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Post by Moribund » Sun Oct 01, 2017 3:20 pm

mrsenario wrote: ↑Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:18 pm What could Gary mills add as assistant if we took a punt short term managed to drag a relegated team to wembley
Absolutely [SwearFilter] all, presumably

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Re: BARROW V MAIDSTONE match thread

Post by Soulboy » Sun Oct 01, 2017 3:36 pm

Graham Barrow. Missed the Chester job but experience and ability

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Post by SKIPPER » Sun Oct 01, 2017 4:07 pm

Soulboy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 01, 2017 3:36 pm Graham Barrow. Missed the Chester job but experience and ability
Would have been my choice for manager,but by the time he threw the towel in at Chesterfield a decision had already been made. Unfortunate timing.

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Post by glasgow_blue » Sun Oct 01, 2017 4:38 pm

SKIPPER wrote: ↑Sun Oct 01, 2017 4:07 pm
Soulboy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 01, 2017 3:36 pm Graham Barrow. Missed the Chester job but experience and ability
Would have been my choice for manager,but by the time he threw the towel in at Chesterfield a decision had already been made. Unfortunate timing.
I don't think timing had anything to do with it Skipper. MM was always getting the job, it wouldn't have mattered if Pep and Jose had applied.
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