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Re: Time to get serious

Post by barrowfan » Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:02 am

Steeley wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:55 am
barrowfan wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:46 am

Always remember Dave Bayliss saying he wouldn't touch a player that had an agent. I know times have changed since then but it's a statement that tells its own story.
And look at some of the signings we made under him who were utter dogshit.
Yeah but they didn't have an agent. ;)

Not defending Bayliss by any stretch of the imagination, but then again what manager hasn't made bad decisions, even at the highest levels, as is shown by the Premier League casualties in this early part of the season?

It was his dislike of agents that I was trying to highlight and in view of recent events, both in front of and behind the scenes at Barrow, who's to say he was wrong?

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Re: Time to get serious

Post by barrowaberdeen » Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:04 am

That's such a distortion of the facts. They were shit because we had no money and made the mistake of going full time without cash.Itsvworked sometimes, almost by accident like with Boyes and Mackreth, whatever happened after.

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Re: Time to get serious

Post by Jim » Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:11 am

I guess the managers we are considering will have agents too :roll:

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Re: Time to get serious

Post by spirit of 1990 » Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:24 am

2014Club wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:06 am
spirit of 1990 wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:39 am

If he loved the club (that kept taking him back - despite some average seasons) he wouldn't be wanting away would he?

There'll be others out there who are better and don't even cost (Gomis this season alone) I think he's improved over the years, but he's definitely replaceable.
Don't try and act like any player at this level or any level outside of your Lampards, Gerrard's and Tottis love the club they play for. They go where they can make the most money and why shouldn't they? Football is a short career.
Where am I trying to say he/they should love the club/any club? I'm pointing out that he definitely doesn't love the club, it was a wage for him that's all!
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Re: Time to get serious

Post by 2014Club » Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:35 am

spirit of 1990 wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:24 am
2014Club wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:06 am

Don't try and act like any player at this level or any level outside of your Lampards, Gerrard's and Tottis love the club they play for. They go where they can make the most money and why shouldn't they? Football is a short career.
Where am I trying to say he/they should love the club/any club? I'm pointing out that he definitely doesn't love the club, it was a wage for him that's all!
Just like it is for the rest of them? I wasn't having a go at you or trying to be funny.

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Re: Time to get serious

Post by spirit of 1990 » Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:01 pm

2014Club wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:35 am
spirit of 1990 wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:24 am

Where am I trying to say he/they should love the club/any club? I'm pointing out that he definitely doesn't love the club, it was a wage for him that's all!
Just like it is for the rest of them? I wasn't having a go at you or trying to be funny.
No, that's fine mate, just didn't want you thinking I was saying players these days "love" clubs.....few and far between in this day & age. I would say we've had our share over the years but it's becoming a rarity now.
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Re: Time to get serious

Post by Moribund » Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:11 pm

Makoma to replace Harvey? Let's see if he really is the non-league Pogba, or just a non-league Bernard Diomede.

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Re: Time to get serious

Post by Bingo » Thu Oct 26, 2017 3:39 pm

Chris Benoit wrote: Thu Oct 26, 2017 9:36 am Is the alleged behaviour from the agent punishable by the FA? IMO it's up there with tapping up, he's (allegedly) basically flouted that his client wanted away and was available. Depending which side of he fence you're on it's a clever/sneaky ploy. I can't see Paul Cox being an angel in this either; there were a few clubs who complained about his methods to try and bring players in (Matt Rhead is the one that springs to mind).

I know that agent guy is a Barrow fan but if it keeps him away from Barrow AFC in a professional way then every cloud has a silver lining. Any players not wanting to be here should go. Tapping up players and unsettling other clubs is part of the Paul Cox game plan.

Lets hope the new manager sorts everything out and is allowed to run the football side of things.

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Re: Time to get serious

Post by Wintergreen » Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:02 am

Club 'most professional it has been' according to in-form striker Harry P.

http://www.nwemail.co.uk/sport/barrow-a ... 096feae-ds

Sounds very encouraging; Cox's departure looking increasingly like a blessing in disguiseley.
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Re: Time to get serious

Post by Moonwatcher » Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:44 am

Wintergreen wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:02 am Club 'most professional it has been' according to in-form striker Harry P.

http://www.nwemail.co.uk/sport/barrow-a ... 096feae-ds

Sounds very encouraging; Cox's departure looking increasingly like a blessing in disguiseley.
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Re: Time to get serious

Post by thegaffer77 » Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:55 am

Wintergreen wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:02 am Club 'most professional it has been' according to in-form striker Harry P.

http://www.nwemail.co.uk/sport/barrow-a ... 096feae-ds

Sounds very encouraging; Cox's departure looking increasingly like a blessing in disguiseley.
Great news. Cox obviously had his strengths but making the club more professional wasn't one of them. Looks like an excellent decision from Casson.
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Re: Time to get serious

Post by HenneysKnee » Sat Nov 25, 2017 11:52 am

As small a gesture as it was I was a big fan of Pennock supporting St Mary’s Hospice by purchasing furniture for his office from their warehouse, seem he does really understand community links

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Re: Time to get serious

Post by thegaffer77 » Sat Nov 25, 2017 12:09 pm

HenneysKnee wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2017 11:52 am As small a gesture as it was I was a big fan of Pennock supporting St Mary’s Hospice by purchasing furniture for his office from their warehouse, seem he does really understand community links
I agree. Small gestures make a big impact.
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Re: Time to get serious

Post by Wintergreen » Sat Nov 25, 2017 12:53 pm

HenneysKnee wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2017 11:52 am As small a gesture as it was I was a big fan of Pennock supporting St Mary’s Hospice by purchasing furniture for his office from their warehouse, seem he does really understand community links
Hadn't heard that - wow.

He's on another level completely.
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Re: Time to get serious

Post by Lancaster Branch » Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:00 pm

https://t.co/e3pY54Ii58

Look at the star struck young man in the middle, literally can't hide his excitement.

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