Casson Mark Corporation

[Holkerbird]

Policy applies to staff and volunteers. Fact.

If you work for the club as a volunteer or member of staff you are impartial on all social media platforms.

No one else comments on here, present staff/volunteers so this should not be used for this purpose. It’s bloody frustrating at times but thems the rules.

Well as a volunteer of many years that is news to me. I was never informed of that policy and neither postings or myself have ever been subjected to sanctions and this includes defending the club and people working for the club and criticising where necessary.. Wouldn't have taken any notice anyway.

[Suffolk Blue]

What is it about having an owner that has some money that prompts some people to assume that the sky must be forever about to fall in to the point whereby they almost wish it on the thing they support?

Its actually quite an demeaning view of the club itself as it involves an assumption that the only type of millionaire likely to invest in a club like ours is a fool whose asserts will inevitably be lost and that this is only a matter of time. Its akin to the type of jealous cr*p that opposition supporters chuck at clubs lucky enough to acquire financial backing - i.e. that your "sugar daddy" is some form of shallow con man who has by sheer luck acquired wealth and will be on his bike as soon as his bank balance has been blunted.

I've absolutely no idea whether what's quoted above is true and I don't have the inclination to find out. In terms of what has been written above, I would just say a couple of things:

(1) As has been stated before, US commerce is incredibly litigious and law suits are issued like confetti. If you trade in the States it is almost certain that you will be sued at some point.
(2) As law suits go a claim of £1.4m would be "peanuts" especially given that the main element of most claims is probably for "punitive" damages
(3) If the law suit is aimed at the Corporation then you would expect the Corporation to have Insurance (Compulsory in most States) against liability for Products as well as Public and Employers Liability

To put this in perspective, I as a fee earner within my own limited company in the UK am required to carry £2m of Professional Indemnity cover and £5m of Public/Employers Liability. That's before I can actually trade.

In the scheme of things there are far more important things for this forum to worry itself about.

[barrowaberdeen]

Sense

[Holkerbird]

Beardy will you stop trying to justify your vile posts with the words about loving this club because clearly you don't. Your user name needs to be changed too as you need balls to grow one and I suspect that equipment is probably missing.
Bitterness is not an attractive attribute. Go and sign some players up in January.

[Roger Charnley 1907]

Suffolk Blue.

After a quick session on google.com . I am no expert on US Law but I noticed the date is set for trial for August 2019. This seems rather a long time for a case to not be important! It is down as a "Contract Diversity Dispute". It doesn't give much more information than that I am afraid Suffolk Blue, maybe you know more than I on something like this.

[John_Bucks]

Your user name needs to be changed too as you need balls to grow one and I suspect that equipment is probably missing.

Ha ha ha ha ha wow! Quote of the year!!

[HenneysKnee]

True....owners getting sued for millions and selling houses does not look good though ryan. Tell andrew and his dad to stop taking us all for idiots and be honest. We love this club. Stop messing about.

I mean last time I talked to Paul they were selling the house because it was a 33 acre plot and it's too much work. That and they wanted to downsize to give them the freedom to travel back to Barrow more often, and also to travel to see their Children & Grandchildren who no longer live in Texas.

I'm afraid that doesn't quite fit your theory, so if you want to keep on doing 2+2 and getting 5 then be my guest!

If they weren’t desperate to sell they’ve had a nightmare selling it for so far below the initial asking price

[Bingo]

Policy applies to staff and volunteers. Fact.

If you work for the club as a volunteer or member of staff you are impartial on all social media platforms.

No one else comments on here, present staff/volunteers so this should not be used for this purpose. It’s bloody frustrating at times but thems the rules.

There are people that are and have been involved with the club that leak all sorts from the club to suit their own agenda.

[mightywhite]

I should not have to.. club should.

So when Mike Ashley was involved in the sports direct saga, Newcastle United should have announced that? It’s a private business matter. It affects the club indirectly so it’s fair game to discuss on here but suggesting the club should be announcing it just plain dumb.

[barrowfan]

For those who are interested there's a chance to ask him next week when he does his Meet the Owner meeting.

[Suffolk Blue]

Suffolk Blue.

After a quick session on google.com . I am no expert on US Law but I noticed the date is set for trial for August 2019. This seems rather a long time for a case to not be important! It is down as a "Contract Diversity Dispute". It doesn't give much more information than that I am afraid Suffolk Blue, maybe you know more than I on something like this.

Contract Diversity Dispute. Two key words. "Contract" means that the basis of the claim relates to a alleged "breach of contract" between one party and another. "Diversity" is a particularly US concept and suggests that the claimant is domiciled in a different State to the defendant. This is relevant because each State has its own de facto legal system. Therefore what is considered a breach in one state or how much should be paid in compensation may be different in another. So the issue is therefore where you bring the action. To resolve this and where the amount claimed is above a certain amount US law provides for the case to be heard in a Federal court by a Federal Judge who has jurisdiction over both parties.

The reason for a trial being set for August 2019 is probably twofold. Firstly its not that easy to get in front of a Federal judge so a long delay can be expected. Secondly by posting a date so far ahead the system is inviting the parties to sort themselves out before it ever gets there.

Isn't this football forum?

[saltcellar]

I think what is also missing off this post is that Casson Mark Corporation have filed a counter claim against Tallgrass Industries.
So it is not just a one sided affair.

Counter Claimant
Casson-Mark Corporation
Represented By
Christopher J. Sherman
Payne & Jones, Chartered

Counter Defendant
Tallgrass Industries, LLC
Represented By
Stanley B. Bachman
Morefield Speicher Bachman, Lc

Defendant
Casson-Mark Corporation
Represented By
Christopher J. Sherman
Payne & Jones, Chartered

Plaintiff
Tallgrass Industries, LLC
Represented By
Stanley B. Bachman
Morefield Speicher Bachman, Lc

[Roger Charnley 1907]

Suffolk Blue
Many thank!Is there any chance this could be a multi million dollar case?

[Suffolk Blue]

Suffolk Blue
Many thank!Is there any chance this could be a multi million dollar case?

Don't know. I'm not a lawyer though I have drafted quite a few contracts for lawyers to pick holes in. I think it would depend on the type of action. If this is a contract breach chances are the claim will be limited to the damages or losses perceived to have been caused either by the "non-conformance" of any goods/services under the contract or some other material breach. What constitutes a breach or a material breach is usually defined within the contract. Generally speaking however, I would guess that any award would not be any more than the total value of the contract and more likely, a percentage of it. So there may not be much potential for the claim to escalate in value.

As Saltcellar has pointed out, there is a counterclaim which would also indicate why a Federal court might be needed to resolve the matter. As in the UK however, my understanding is that only a small proportion of these cases ever actually end up in a court room (unless it involves J R Ewing of course).

I think I should now give this a rest.

[Suffolk Blue]

...Oh and one last thing. The counter claim may actually be for a significantly higher amount than the original suit if it is seeking damages for slander or liable. So who knows, Mr Casson could conceivably emerge from this quids in.