Assists

colin · Post by **colin** » Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:00 am

Has anyone out there been keeping a record of how many assists each of our players has this season? There is a lot of focus on the goal scorers, but surely our current success comes from being a proper team, where being patient and creating the opportunities is as important as finishing them?

Holkerbird · Post by **Holkerbird** » Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:45 pm

Welcome to your first post on the forum.
No goal scorer can do it alone, or very rarely, but I think it would be hard to keep a check on assists unless someone is a dedicated statistician.
We have a great team.who play for each other and that is one of the reasons for our success.

chipmunx · Post by **chipmunx** » Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:56 pm

If you look at the goal celebrations the scorer always runs over to the person who assisted and the whole team celebrates and congratulates both of them. In some cases they even go to the player who made the assist 1st - for example look who Sam Hird runs to congratulate when Quigley got the 5th against Ebbsfleet - It was Jack Hindle who set it up. It shows a great togetherness in the team.

Moribund · Post by **Moribund** » Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:13 pm

Holkerbird wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:45 pm Welcome to your first post on the forum.
No goal scorer can do it alone, or very rarely, but I think it would be hard to keep a check on assists unless someone is a dedicated statistician.
We have a great team.who play for each other and that is one of the reasons for our success.

Could just watch the video footage.

Nigel Bamford · Post by **Nigel Bamford** » Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:52 am

What, exactly, is an 'assist'? Take our 1st goal on Saturday: was it Dixon for his quick thinking in turning defence into attack so quickly; Kay for his perfectly weighted pass to Rooney; or Rooney for his cross converted by Angus? Any one of those was integral to that goal.

Middleton Nick · Post by **Middleton Nick** » Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:57 am

The game nowadays is all about statistics, but all I'm bothered about is who scores.

BAFC_98 · Post by **BAFC_98** » Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:34 am

Nigel Bamford wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:52 am What, exactly, is an 'assist'? Take our 1st goal on Saturday: was it Dixon for his quick thinking in turning defence into attack so quickly; Kay for his perfectly weighted pass to Rooney; or Rooney for his cross converted by Angus? Any one of those was integral to that goal.

Rooney was the Assist. The final pass before a goal.

Nigel Bamford · Post by **Nigel Bamford** » Tue Jan 21, 2020 12:55 pm

BAFC_98 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:34 am
Nigel Bamford wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:52 am What, exactly, is an 'assist'? Take our 1st goal on Saturday: was it Dixon for his quick thinking in turning defence into attack so quickly; Kay for his perfectly weighted pass to Rooney; or Rooney for his cross converted by Angus? Any one of those was integral to that goal.
Rooney was the Assist. The final pass before a goal.

Sure, I do understand the literal translation of an 'assist' but why that should be given more credit than the others in that example eludes me.

Moribund · Post by **Moribund** » Tue Jan 21, 2020 12:58 pm

Nigel Bamford wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 12:55 pm
BAFC_98 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 11:34 am

Rooney was the Assist. The final pass before a goal.
Sure, I do understand the literal translation of an 'assist' but why that should be given more credit than the others in that example eludes me.

Could say the same about goals though, sometimes. A midfielder could dribble past 3 men and the striker could see it over the line. It's why stats can never be more reliable than actually watching a player.

Steelworks End · Post by **Steelworks End** » Tue Jan 21, 2020 1:02 pm

Middleton Nick wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2020 10:57 am The game nowadays is all about statistics, but all I'm bothered about is who scores.

Agreed, as a supporter. The Manager and coaching staff
will be interested in the assists, though; are the players performing as they are expected to, getting into the right positions, and creating chances for the scorer to finish off?

colin · Post by **colin** » Tue Jan 21, 2020 1:47 pm

So, last night I waded through Evening Mail reports, Barrow Lad’s summaries, videos from numerous sites and came up with my own list of assists. I take the points made that the most significant contribution is not always the last pass but that is the main criteria I have used. I have been generous and counted those who have been fouled for penalties and free kicks as the assistor. If you disagree with my judgement you are welcome to create your own list!
Before I share the results I thought I would ask you to guess who came out on top? One player is currently top with 9 assists and two others have 8. Let me know who you think they are!

Mike · Post by **Mike** » Tue Jan 21, 2020 1:56 pm

Rooney with 9, then Kay and Angus with 8?

colin · Post by **colin** » Tue Jan 21, 2020 1:59 pm

One of those is right! When I’ve had 10 guesses I’ll reveal my answers. By the way I’ve included the FA Trophy matches.

Moribund · Post by **Moribund** » Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:28 pm

Brad Barry in the top 2.

Moribund · Post by **Moribund** » Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:33 pm

Actually, if you're counting fouls before the free-kick and penalties, it has to be Quigley.

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