Michael Jolley.....

For all things Barrow AFC. Keep discussions civil and fair, we're all Barrow aren't we!
Kieran
Gold Member
Posts: 2224
Joined: Wed May 28, 2008 4:05 pm
Contact:

Michael Jolley.....

Post by Kieran » Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:03 pm

is not the answer and never was!

The last two appointments have been the most important in the club's history, and we could not have got them more wrong. When Dunn went it absolutely screamed 'safe pair of hands then start again in the summer'. But instead we appointed someone who is barely a football manager with very limited experience. We are told there were around 60-70 applicants, I don't believe for a second that there were not managers amongst those with real League 2 experience who would have been a much better shout to come in and steady the ship. I just do not see any logic in appointing Jolley, it makes no sense to me whatsoever.

Today, how many [SwearFilter] times did we change our shape? Its no wonder Morecambe had so much space for their second goal as nobody knew where they should be! John Goodwin made a great point early second half. Eardley went to right centre half, but Hird could have done that job to the same effect. That scenario is repeated all over the pitch, we have not improved at all and have arguably got worse.

But what can we do now? Changing managers again now could well be counter productive, so instead we are stuck with a manager who clearly has no plan and does not have a clue what he is doing as evidenced by the fact he changes things every 5 [SwearFilter] minutes.

Depressing stuff being a Barrow fan at the moment. This season is rapidly turning into a nightmare and one I'm not sure the club can recover from should the unthinkable happen.

saitek
Member
Posts: 65
Joined: Sat Nov 15, 2008 12:46 am
Contact:

Re: Michael Jolley.....

Post by saitek » Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:04 pm

He needs to go now hasn't a clue what he's doing

Paulmichael
Senior Member
Posts: 281
Joined: Sun Aug 06, 2017 7:13 pm
Contact:

Re: Michael Jolley.....

Post by Paulmichael » Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:08 pm

Couldnt agree more, if only we could go back to pre season and appoint a steady league 2 manager, which was always the right appointment in our position we found ourselves in after evatt left, Dunn was a disaster then instead of rectifying it the board have done exactly the same.
I think they look at evatt and see a young manager who could use us as a stepping stone, however for every evatt there are more Dunns and jolleys, this was the one season more than any other in the clubs history when survival was all that was required in our first season back and no time for a gamble.
Unfortunately 2 dreadful appointments will put us back to where we started and for many fans like myself the quest to see Barrow live in action in the football league will continue

HenneysKnee
BarrowAFC Veteran
Posts: 8323
Joined: Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:28 pm
Contact:

Re: Michael Jolley.....

Post by HenneysKnee » Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:10 pm

Them few games we were allowed into we showed more than enough imho that we could stay up; he didn’t tinker to much with the formation or personal. We’ve spent a fortune in January and don’t bring in the two players we were desperate for (a goalscorer and a tough tackling centre mid) and literally haven’t got a clue what formation we are playing; must have played 5/6 different ones just during the game today
As Kieran said we’ve had two opportunities this year to get a safe pair of hands in and haven’t taken it twice. On paper Jolley is the man you’d have taken to first replace Evatt but now.......
Go back to the 3-5-2 and pray

vialli 9
Senior Member
Posts: 250
Joined: Wed May 28, 2008 10:49 pm
Contact:

Re: Michael Jolley.....

Post by vialli 9 » Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:14 pm


User avatar
ruins
Platinum Member
Posts: 3536
Joined: Wed May 28, 2008 4:17 pm
Location: Chorley
Contact:

Re: Michael Jolley.....

Post by ruins » Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:21 pm

Solid post mate
"F*cking Ribble" - Steve Herbert 26/4/09

blue nige
BarrowAFC Veteran
Posts: 7085
Joined: Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:21 pm
Location: Antarctica
Contact:

Re: Michael Jolley.....

Post by blue nige » Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:25 pm

couldn't have put it better, we should've spent money on a decent forward and a midfielder but I honestly think we're going down the damage is unfortunately irreparable!

Moribund
Platinum Member
Posts: 2686
Joined: Sun Jan 23, 2011 1:30 pm
Contact:

Re: Michael Jolley.....

Post by Moribund » Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:29 pm

I'd always say give the manager at least 10 games, but the players we've sold our soul for, and the huge regression in just six weeks or so means I have to agree - get him out now and let the players sort themselves out.

User avatar
Steeley
BarrowAFC Veteran
Posts: 5749
Joined: Wed May 28, 2008 4:27 pm
Location: Manchester
Contact:

Re: Michael Jolley.....

Post by Steeley » Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:30 pm

If we lose the next game I'd furlough him and ask Kelly to do his best for the remainder. If we can do it to players we can do it to anyone right?
Bish=God

whitty1969
Platinum Member
Posts: 2937
Joined: Sun Apr 21, 2013 9:47 pm
Contact:

Re: Michael Jolley.....

Post by whitty1969 » Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:31 pm

Get him on furlough.
Then its Kelly and Hird
What goes around comes around

User avatar
McMark
BarrowAFC Veteran
Posts: 11296
Joined: Tue Jun 04, 2013 8:09 pm
Contact:

Re: Michael Jolley.....

Post by McMark » Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:35 pm

whitty1969 wrote: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:31 pm Get him on furlough.
Then its Kelly and Hird
What goes around comes around
Yep means eating a bit of humble pie but so be it! Would have Jason Taylor and Josh Lillis involved too. Needs a players meeting with the board and brutal honesty from all. We are in such a mess and need to throw the dice and hope!🤞🏼🙏

Matty
BarrowAFC Veteran
Posts: 5353
Joined: Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:57 pm
Location: Barrow
Contact:

Re: Michael Jolley.....

Post by Matty » Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:37 pm

It's becoming more clear to the day that the personnel on board (through no fault of their own) don't have enough knowledge for the playing side of running an EFL football club - surely someone with a football background is what was needed in the CEO position? That's no criticism to the current one as he's no doubt doing the job to the best of his ability.
Popular side since '03.

blue nige
BarrowAFC Veteran
Posts: 7085
Joined: Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:21 pm
Location: Antarctica
Contact:

Re: Michael Jolley.....

Post by blue nige » Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:47 pm

Matty wrote: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:37 pm It's becoming more clear to the day that the personnel on board (through no fault of their own) don't have enough knowledge for the playing side of running an EFL football club - surely someone with a football background is what was needed in the CEO position? That's no criticism to the current one as he's no doubt doing the job to the best of his ability.
disagree through no fault of their own ? of course it is ,the alarm bells should have been ringing after the first few weeks of the season! they should have done their due diligence on managers before appointing Jolley, as they should be doing now for life in the National league, looking at the top 6 team's there and if needs be taking / approaching a top manager, whose won / got team's promoted out of that league!we have to start being ruthless footballs changed dramatically over the last few years we need to adapt and adapt quickly!

Bottleofsass
Member
Posts: 56
Joined: Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:50 pm
Contact:

Re: Michael Jolley.....

Post by Bottleofsass » Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:47 pm

Completely agree.

Heads higher up have to start rolling soon surely?
Too many jobs for the boys, people with no experience with this level, like that Levi bloke. Nice words but we are a football club.

ossickbluebird
Veteran Member
Posts: 615
Joined: Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:43 pm
Contact:

Re: Michael Jolley.....

Post by ossickbluebird » Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:48 pm

Just listened to Jolleys post match interview on RC and he was quick to point out that the attitude of the players was not right, his job to get those players wanting to win games.
He mentioned how we had only won 2 games before he arrived........ he should not be looking backwards but forwards. You could tell he was angry and I do think he needs more time, but if he can't motivate the team he's not a football manager

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: CH BAFC and 26 guests