I'm as pessimistic as everyone but planning for the national league with 20 odd games to go and us 1 point from Southend? Are you on valium?blue nige wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:47 pmdisagree through no fault of their own ? of course it is ,the alarm bells should have been ringing after the first few weeks of the season! they should have done their due diligence on managers before appointing Jolley, as they should be doing now for life in the National league, looking at the top 6 team's there and if needs be taking / approaching a top manager, whose won / got team's promoted out of that league!we have to start being ruthless footballs changed dramatically over the last few years we need to adapt and adapt quickly!Matty wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:37 pm It's becoming more clear to the day that the personnel on board (through no fault of their own) don't have enough knowledge for the playing side of running an EFL football club - surely someone with a football background is what was needed in the CEO position? That's no criticism to the current one as he's no doubt doing the job to the best of his ability.
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Steve Herbert supports the nob theory - Saturday 4th February 2012.
If this bus crashed and everybody on it died, Barrow football would end - Daz Boyle, Boston away, August 9th 2014.
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Attitude not right because he has [SwearFilter] alot of them off ?ossickbluebird wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:48 pm Just listened to Jolleys post match interview on RC and he was quick to point out that the attitude of the players was not right, his job to get those players wanting to win games.
He mentioned how we had only won 2 games before he arrived........ he should not be looking backwards but forwards. You could tell he was angry and I do think he needs more time, but if he can't motivate the team he's not a football manager
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The q and a session coming up should be interesting. I hope a lot of points raised on this forum get raised.We could end up with a roof and fans own bar as our souvenirs of our efl journey.Unfortunately unless we get rid of our disappointment we will lose a lot of disillusioned fans.We can all see the mistakes made but need to correct things quickly if to stay up.
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He said something like 'I was brought in to see what I could do with THIS team' as though he was an outside miracle worker!
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Don't think he can be furloughed mate because he was not on the payroll at the end of October.whitty1969 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:31 pm Get him on furlough.
Then its Kelly and Hird
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Will have to be gardening leave then Sefton.Sefton Aubergine wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:59 pmDon't think he can be furloughed mate because he was not on the payroll at the end of October.whitty1969 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:31 pm Get him on furlough.
Then its Kelly and Hird
What goes around comes around
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The thing is, we weren't far away before he came in. We had just beaten Cheltenham 3-0 and were competitive in almost all the previous league games, often only losing by the odd goal in tight games. I don't know why the board went for a manager who wanted nine new players as opposed to a manager who wanted, say, three or four new players (which is all we actually needed). Changing the squad to such an extent has been disastrous and we've gone backwards, in terms of results and performances.
Then there's the issue of Jolley's volatile temperament that led to his sacking by Grimsby - to me that hardly seemed like the type of guy to inspire unity amongst the squad. A wiser appointment would surely have been somebody without such a questionable character. He comes across as arrogant and the sort of person who easily rubs people the wrong way - what we needed was a manager who would increase the confidence of the group and get everybody fully behind him and fighting for the club's survival, not somebody who alienates good pros.
The whole furlough thing and the unceremonious discarding of experienced and respected club men (J Taylor, Hird, Brown) who are useful players shows a complete lack of respect and an inability to manage people. That move will have done nothing for morale in the squad and is just the sort of thing I feared from Jolley when I heard he was appointed. He was not the manager that the situation called for.
Then there's the issue of Jolley's volatile temperament that led to his sacking by Grimsby - to me that hardly seemed like the type of guy to inspire unity amongst the squad. A wiser appointment would surely have been somebody without such a questionable character. He comes across as arrogant and the sort of person who easily rubs people the wrong way - what we needed was a manager who would increase the confidence of the group and get everybody fully behind him and fighting for the club's survival, not somebody who alienates good pros.
The whole furlough thing and the unceremonious discarding of experienced and respected club men (J Taylor, Hird, Brown) who are useful players shows a complete lack of respect and an inability to manage people. That move will have done nothing for morale in the squad and is just the sort of thing I feared from Jolley when I heard he was appointed. He was not the manager that the situation called for.
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I meant as a back up plan I.e. not waiting till the seasons end as Patton once said "fail to prepare to plan prepare to fail! "if I was on valium I'd surely be chilled out and not bothered!Chris Benoit wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:50 pmI'm as pessimistic as everyone but planning for the national league with 20 odd games to go and us 1 point from Southend? Are you on valium?blue nige wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:47 pm
disagree through no fault of their own ? of course it is ,the alarm bells should have been ringing after the first few weeks of the season! they should have done their due diligence on managers before appointing Jolley, as they should be doing now for life in the National league, looking at the top 6 team's there and if needs be taking / approaching a top manager, whose won / got team's promoted out of that league!we have to start being ruthless footballs changed dramatically over the last few years we need to adapt and adapt quickly!
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I'd rather be coming up with a solution to stay up in the first place rather than the infinitely harder winning promotion back.blue nige wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:04 pmI meant as a back up plan I.e. not waiting till the seasons end as Patton once said "fail to prepare to plan prepare to fail! "if I was on valium I'd surely be chilled out and not bothered!Chris Benoit wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:50 pm
I'm as pessimistic as everyone but planning for the national league with 20 odd games to go and us 1 point from Southend? Are you on valium?![]()
Steve Herbert supports the nob theory - Saturday 4th February 2012.
If this bus crashed and everybody on it died, Barrow football would end - Daz Boyle, Boston away, August 9th 2014.
If this bus crashed and everybody on it died, Barrow football would end - Daz Boyle, Boston away, August 9th 2014.
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Yes mate... Feel like I support a club that has been swizzed. The body language and lack of connection between the manager and assistant looks telling.whitty1969 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:03 pmWill have to be gardening leave then Sefton.Sefton Aubergine wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:59 pm
Don't think he can be furloughed mate because he was not on the payroll at the end of October.
Some baffling decisions
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When do we expect Pedros return!!
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agree but we're making hard work of it as someone said there should be a player's meeting to clear the air !Chris Benoit wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:09 pmI'd rather be coming up with a solution to stay up in the first place rather than the infinitely harder winning promotion back.
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Kelly is a top bloke the players played for him in his few games in chargeSefton Aubergine wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:10 pmYes mate... Feel like I support a club that has been swizzed. The body language and lack of connection between the manager and assistant looks telling.whitty1969 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 6:03 pm
Will have to be gardening leave then Sefton.
Some baffling decisions
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He's had enough time. The team has been ruined by him.
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