Scott Quigley

[mall]

I agree to a point, but if another club comes offering more money and the player has no loyalty to the club, what in all honesty can you do.

What you can do is say Scott we appreciate your situation and are quite willing to release you from your contract so long as either you or your shyster mate Whiston can find a club willing to pay us 500k upfront.

And talk about refusing to train and play are concerned given what was already public his only way of doing that [ by persuading his GP to give him a sick note ] would have been very difficult as it is pretty certain that in the player's contract will be a clause that entitles the club to have a specialist in whatever he was claiming was wrong with him examine him and if he provided a report saying he disagreed with the GP.s assessment then at the next renewal of the " sick note " to sign him off again the GP would have to go against the consultant's opinion and in the world of medicine that's not how it's done.

Accrington had this problem with Billy Kee although slightly different in that nobody thought that he didn't have issues or that BK was trying to engineer a move He just wanted out as he couldn't take the pressure anymore but doing that meant AS would lose a major value asset. As I understood it they assisted him to get for lack of a better word " certified " which meant they were able to claim insurance wise. In return, he can't change his mind and play at any level higher than he is now without his new club repaying the insurance company what they paid out.

I.m not sure i.d of played it the way Hornby has I think i.d of tested him first knowing that he simply couldn't have refused to play and train I believe [ if he openly did that without being " signed off " ] a club can stop a player's wages after 2 weeks and then you come to what happens a year down the line when his contract expires if he's stayed away and you.ve not paid him for a year what's to stop you offering him a new contract at a pound a week more which means [ even tho he.s out of contract ] you can refuse to release his playing registration meaning his career and earnings are at a stop.

My Guess is Hornby will have accepted a fee that gives them as much as they could get without getting into legal and tribunals the cost of which could very quickly reach 100k so I reckon he.ll have wanted 250 but settled for the 150k release fee as has been mentioned to avoid the hassle and the outside possibility that he could end up with a victory but having spent the 250k to get it.

But now we come to Stockport and their undisclosed fee scam if what they actually paid for Maddern was to be the highest fee they've ever paid for a player who do they list as their record signing without either divulging it or lying to all and sundry ?

And to finish I really don't want to [SwearFilter] on your parade but i.ve seen Zanzala play for 3 different clubs over I think its 6 years and if I was a scout doing my homework on him my conclusion would be not to touch him with a barge pole the phrase I think is " flatters " to deceive and with the service, he got at both Accy and Carlisle he should have scored twice the goals that he did. And please don't believe you got him for any reason other than the following its pretty sure that players at the end of their contracts at Carlisle are now placed into one of three groups Group A Definitely want to re sign so happy to offer a rise in wages from the misery amount that they no doubt originally signed for. Group B Happy to keep them if they're stupid enough to sign again for the misery sum they did before. Group C Want to get rid of for whatever reason Offer them no increase on the original wage which will have been totally crap in the first place. Bennet is the perfect example signed for next to nothing to get back playing again with a manager he knew wouldn't take the [SwearFilter] out of him and who he would know couldn't pay any more than they offered him. No doubt Beech promised them the earth when it came round to a new contract but what he didn't do was explain to them what Holdsworth's role would be. And guess what it all ended up in tears and acrimony with the player making his offer public and DH telling him where to go.

I genuinely hope you find someone to replace Quigley and not rely on Zanzala and that you have a season to remember in the League in front of your own fans at last.

So, we got Zanzala because Carlisle 'found him out' and didn't want him then !!.

[Jeeby]

Dont forget when Squidgley signed for Barrow he didnt arrive with the greatest plaudits from his previous 3 loan clubs, and hardly any goals. Sometimes you just fit at a club, the coaching may be different, or even the feel of the squad. I'm hoping Zanzala has found just that club and coach, he looked sharp against Holker, I hope he makes the game against Bolton.

[Moribund]

Ah, so Carlisle offered Zanzala a contract because they didn't want him, makes sense...

[McMark]

It’s like a game of Call My Bluff on here sometimes! Or should that be Bullshoite baffles brains

[signalman 65]

What you can do is say Scott we appreciate your situation and are quite willing to release you from your contract so long as either you or your shyster mate Whiston can find a club willing to pay us 500k upfront.

And talk about refusing to train and play are concerned given what was already public his only way of doing that [ by persuading his GP to give him a sick note ] would have been very difficult as it is pretty certain that in the player's contract will be a clause that entitles the club to have a specialist in whatever he was claiming was wrong with him examine him and if he provided a report saying he disagreed with the GP.s assessment then at the next renewal of the " sick note " to sign him off again the GP would have to go against the consultant's opinion and in the world of medicine that's not how it's done.

Accrington had this problem with Billy Kee although slightly different in that nobody thought that he didn't have issues or that BK was trying to engineer a move He just wanted out as he couldn't take the pressure anymore but doing that meant AS would lose a major value asset. As I understood it they assisted him to get for lack of a better word " certified " which meant they were able to claim insurance wise. In return, he can't change his mind and play at any level higher than he is now without his new club repaying the insurance company what they paid out.

I.m not sure i.d of played it the way Hornby has I think i.d of tested him first knowing that he simply couldn't have refused to play and train I believe [ if he openly did that without being " signed off " ] a club can stop a player's wages after 2 weeks and then you come to what happens a year down the line when his contract expires if he's stayed away and you.ve not paid him for a year what's to stop you offering him a new contract at a pound a week more which means [ even tho he.s out of contract ] you can refuse to release his playing registration meaning his career and earnings are at a stop.

My Guess is Hornby will have accepted a fee that gives them as much as they could get without getting into legal and tribunals the cost of which could very quickly reach 100k so I reckon he.ll have wanted 250 but settled for the 150k release fee as has been mentioned to avoid the hassle and the outside possibility that he could end up with a victory but having spent the 250k to get it.

But now we come to Stockport and their undisclosed fee scam if what they actually paid for Maddern was to be the highest fee they've ever paid for a player who do they list as their record signing without either divulging it or lying to all and sundry ?

And to finish I really don't want to [SwearFilter] on your parade but i.ve seen Zanzala play for 3 different clubs over I think its 6 years and if I was a scout doing my homework on him my conclusion would be not to touch him with a barge pole the phrase I think is " flatters " to deceive and with the service, he got at both Accy and Carlisle he should have scored twice the goals that he did. And please don't believe you got him for any reason other than the following its pretty sure that players at the end of their contracts at Carlisle are now placed into one of three groups Group A Definitely want to re sign so happy to offer a rise in wages from the misery amount that they no doubt originally signed for. Group B Happy to keep them if they're stupid enough to sign again for the misery sum they did before. Group C Want to get rid of for whatever reason Offer them no increase on the original wage which will have been totally crap in the first place. Bennet is the perfect example signed for next to nothing to get back playing again with a manager he knew wouldn't take the [SwearFilter] out of him and who he would know couldn't pay any more than they offered him. No doubt Beech promised them the earth when it came round to a new contract but what he didn't do was explain to them what Holdsworth's role would be. And guess what it all ended up in tears and acrimony with the player making his offer public and DH telling him where to go.

I genuinely hope you find someone to replace Quigley and not rely on Zanzala and that you have a season to remember in the League in front of your own fans at last.

So, we got Zanzala because Carlisle 'found him out' and didn't want him then !!.

Stockport's record signing was back in 1998. They paid Tranmere £850,000 for Ian Moore when they were in the Championship

[Matty]

Wrexham obviously weren't that bothered about Quigley as they've just signed an upgrade in Paul Mullin.

[MisterPleasant]

Wrexham obviously weren't that bothered about Quigley as they've just signed an upgrade in Paul Mullin.

Wow! He was linked with Charlton Athletic.

[BlueNurse]

That's the sort of ambition we should be showing... Go out and get a marquee signing, that really states our intention to push for the upper echelons of the league! We're solid at the back, as shown yesterday and holding the ball well in midfield, we just need that clinical finisher up front. Sea impressed me yesterday, but still, even he lacks that final spark.

[russell_anderson]

That's the sort of ambition we should be showing... Go out and get a marquee signing, that really states our intention to push for the upper echelons of the league! We're solid at the back, as shown yesterday and holding the ball well in midfield, we just need that clinical finisher up front. Sea impressed me yesterday, but still, even he lacks that final spark.

We can't even hope to compete with Stockport or Wrexham in terms of financial incentives for players. Those clubs are both owned by mega rich people. In fact, they probably have more money than any club in EFL 2 bar Salford.

[bamber678]

That's the sort of ambition we should be showing... Go out and get a marquee signing, that really states our intention to push for the upper echelons of the league! We're solid at the back, as shown yesterday and holding the ball well in midfield, we just need that clinical finisher up front. Sea impressed me yesterday, but still, even he lacks that final spark.

We can't even hope to compete with Stockport or Wrexham in terms of financial incentives for players. Those clubs are both owned by mega rich people. In fact, they probably have more money than any club in EFL 2 bar Salford.

And hopefully both will be stuck in the national league for at least another season after this one coming. Hate teams that want to buy the league

[Moribund]

We can't even hope to compete with Stockport or Wrexham in terms of financial incentives for players. Those clubs are both owned by mega rich people. In fact, they probably have more money than any club in EFL 2 bar Salford.

And hopefully both will be stuck in the national league for at least another season after this one coming. Hate teams that want to buy the league

Like we did in the Conference North?

[Duff]

We can't even hope to compete with Stockport or Wrexham in terms of financial incentives for players. Those clubs are both owned by mega rich people. In fact, they probably have more money than any club in EFL 2 bar Salford.

And hopefully both will be stuck in the national league for at least another season after this one coming. Hate teams that want to buy the league

Hated us in the Conference North under Cason then did you?

[bamber678]

And hopefully both will be stuck in the national league for at least another season after this one coming. Hate teams that want to buy the league

Hated us in the Conference North under Cason then did you?

Big difference between outspending other part time teams and outspending professional football league clubs. It comes with a few more 0’s in the check book

[Stephen Leonard]

Hated us in the Conference North under Cason then did you?

Big difference between outspending other part time teams and outspending professional football league clubs. It comes with a few more 0’s in the check book

Surely the only difference is how deep the owners pockets are ? Principle is the same isn’t it ?

[bamber678]

Big difference between outspending other part time teams and outspending professional football league clubs. It comes with a few more 0’s in the check book

Surely the only difference is how deep the owners pockets are ? Principle is the same isn’t it ?

Think it’s all about perspective. Outspending clubs with a budget of 200-300k in NL and outspending football league clubs with a budget of upwards 2-3 million is quiet a difference for a team in the league below.