BARROW V S*unthorpe match thread

[Bingley Blue]

Correct..any part of the ball is touching any part of the arc... carry on lads

I'm surprised. I see countless corners taken where part of the ball hangs over the arc but isn't actually touching, to the extent I thought I had the rule wrong.

You’re right. The rule/law says the ball should be in the quadrant. Doesn’t need to be touching. The part of the ball overhanging the quadrant is in it, therefore the ball is in it.

[Hadrian]

Same rule in effect as the out of play rule - the whole of the ball must be over the whole of the line to be out.

Always been the case, I think.

[Sea Dog Sam]

383 new cases. The total of 9,949 means a lot of people now have natural immunity. A lot of the new cases are children. Stop scaremongering

He's not scaremongering. Natural immunity?
There are people who have been jabbed twice and have still caught Covid 19. The jabs only prevent death - and help to keep the NHS from being over-ran. They don't prevent people from catching the infection or infecting others. Barrow currently has the 3rd highest infection rate in the country - Trafford (Manchester) is top and Northampton 2nd.

[Fazered]

383 new cases. The total of 9,949 means a lot of people now have natural immunity. A lot of the new cases are children. Stop scaremongering

He's not scaremongering. Natural immunity?
There are people who have been jabbed twice and have still caught Covid 19. The jabs only prevent death - and help to keep the NHS from being over-ran. They don't prevent people from catching the infection or infecting others. Barrow currently has the 3rd highest infection rate in the country - Trafford (Manchester) is top and Northampton 2nd.

Yes he is scaremongering. The total number of cases is the number he presented. 9,949 has nothing to do with the current situation.
As you say the vaccines are reducing the severity of symptoms and reducing the number of people dying.
Infection rate is another way of trying to scare people. Take sensible precautions and get on with life

[Sea Dog Sam]

As for Zanzala - it is almost a case of "What have Carlisle ever done for us". We have M Jones and Devitt almost permanently on the sick for a year and a half and now Zanzala who seems to be half asleep most of the time. I wouldn't even say Farman is an improvement on Dixon.

Farman is fine; granted he’s not an improvement on Dixon no but that was big gloves to fill, we were always unlikely to pick up a better keeper than Dixon.

Still think Zanzala will be ok playing off another striker, he’s not that battering ram/main focal point of the attack type striker that at the moment he is having to be.

Devitt has been the biggest disappointment so far really, we have seen flashes of his talent but that’s all it’s been, even when he’s been fit he was rarely in the game.

Jones was probably our best player last season before his injury.

Farman is fine?

He's cost us a few goals this season due to comical errors. He's also very weak in the air and panics when high balls are delivered into the box. He punches but very rarely catches the ball. He is a good shot stopper and can distribute the ball well. But occasionally, he is too slow with his distributions and allows the opposition to organise themselves.

Devitt is a 'Crock' - a term used back in the day to describe a footballer who never fully recovers from an injury. A shame but true. A player's ability, strength and speed are never fully regained. Another example being Byron Harrison. A great striker for us until he picked up a really bad injury. He was never the same player after that. Expect Devitt to be shipped out soon.

Zanzala looks like he's lost interest. When he was replaced he ran off the field far faster than when he was on it!
Looked like he was pleased to be substituted Never a good sign. He tends to be penalised too many times in the box too. Whether this is for diving, falling on or fouling defenders, I don't know? Early in the season, I looked upon it as being biased refereeing decisions, but now I'm not too sure because it keeps on happening. Stay on your feet Ozzy!

The best player for me this season has been Hutton. He constantly flies down the wing and provides excellent crosses into the box. Unfortunately, there's rarely anyone on the receiving end? Against Scunny, however, his crosses were all high balls - during the first half - none of which troubled their big defenders. Cooper must have 'had a word' at half time because he started to deliver balls across the surface during the second spell which definitely had Scunthorpe looking flustered.

[Jeeby]

In England, unvaccinated people were at least three times as likely to need hospital care as vaccinated people, according to the most recent Public Health England figures for the previous three weeks.

Says it all really !!

[Sea Dog Sam]

In England, unvaccinated people were at least three times as likely to need hospital care as vaccinated people, according to the most recent Public Health England figures for the previous three weeks.

Says it all really !!

No it doesn't.
Go ask the NHS staff - in Barrow - who are currently treating people who have had two or more vaccinations

[Jeeby]

Yes, three times less than vaccinated people

says it all !!

[Sea Dog Sam]

You're giving us the heebie-jeebies, jeeby!
Public Health England figures? Really? I'd like to know how they were obtained?

[Jeeby]

Sam

Takes a lot to keep me from Holker street

[Hitthebar22]

He's not scaremongering. Natural immunity?
There are people who have been jabbed twice and have still caught Covid 19. The jabs only prevent death - and help to keep the NHS from being over-ran. They don't prevent people from catching the infection or infecting others. Barrow currently has the 3rd highest infection rate in the country - Trafford (Manchester) is top and Northampton 2nd.

Yes he is scaremongering. The total number of cases is the number he presented. 9,949 has nothing to do with the current situation.
As you say the vaccines are reducing the severity of symptoms and reducing the number of people dying.
Infection rate is another way of trying to scare people. Take sensible precautions and get on with life

The the key to the Covid problem is ICUs becoming overcrowded. If they become packed like they were a while ago, expect more preventative measures like before, including lockdowns. As I understand it being vaccinated does not only assist in preventing catching the virus (though I accept that it is not 100% effective), but as well, it greatly reduces dangerous symptoms if you do catch it, so less likely to need hospital intervention. I still don’t understand the anti-vax ideology in the absence of any credible evidence.

[Arvo]

EVERY corner taken in every game is outside the arc. One of them rules from my youth which somehow jus seems to have slipped off the radar.

Yeah, I don't like this. I notice it more and more these days. Although I see how it's within the letter of the law, it seems outside the spirit of the law, somehow.

[Sea Dog Sam]

Yes he is scaremongering. The total number of cases is the number he presented. 9,949 has nothing to do with the current situation.
As you say the vaccines are reducing the severity of symptoms and reducing the number of people dying.
Infection rate is another way of trying to scare people. Take sensible precautions and get on with life

The the key to the Covid problem is ICUs becoming overcrowded. If they become packed like they were a while ago, expect more preventative measures like before, including lockdowns. As I understand it being vaccinated does not only assist in preventing catching the virus (though I accept that it is not 100% effective), but as well, it greatly reduces dangerous symptoms if you do catch it, so less likely to need hospital intervention. I still don’t understand the anti-vax ideology in the absence of any credible evidence.

There are many people who have a fear of the vaccines because they haven't been tested properly. Normally a vaccine has to be tested 5-10 years before being administered to the public. Covid vaccines haven't. They may reduce dangerous symptoms but - because they were rushed out - many people fear that these vaccines may lead to other illnesses once administered into the blood stream.

You don’t understand the anti-vax ideology in the absence of any credible evidence?
Thalidomide was a widely used drug in the late 1950s and early 1960s for the treatment of nausea in pregnant women.
It wasn't tested properly.
It became apparent in the 1960s that thalidomide treatment resulted in severe birth defects in thousands of children.

I don't go along with the anti-vax ideology myself but I can understand the worry that many people have - especially young pregnant women - about having the vaccines when they haven't been thoroughly tested. Russian Roulette springs to mind.

[Sefton Aubergine]

The the key to the Covid problem is ICUs becoming overcrowded. If they become packed like they were a while ago, expect more preventative measures like before, including lockdowns. As I understand it being vaccinated does not only assist in preventing catching the virus (though I accept that it is not 100% effective), but as well, it greatly reduces dangerous symptoms if you do catch it, so less likely to need hospital intervention. I still don’t understand the anti-vax ideology in the absence of any credible evidence.

There are many people who have a fear of the vaccines because they haven't been tested properly. Normally a vaccine has to be tested 5-10 years before being administered to the public. Covid vaccines haven't. They may reduce dangerous symptoms but - because they were rushed out - many people fear that these vaccines may lead to other illnesses once administered into the blood stream.

You don’t understand the anti-vax ideology in the absence of any credible evidence?
Thalidomide was a widely used drug in the late 1950s and early 1960s for the treatment of nausea in pregnant women.
It wasn't tested properly.
It became apparent in the 1960s that thalidomide treatment resulted in severe birth defects in thousands of children.

I don't go along with the anti-vax ideology myself but I can understand the worry that many people have - especially young pregnant women - about having the vaccines when they haven't been thoroughly tested. Russian Roulette springs to mind.

I must correct you I'm afraid... Vaccines have a wide range of testing periods, some as you say years but many are fully tested in months. Covid 19 is a Flu variant. Every year for decades a new or adapted Flu vaccine has been offered to the elderly, usually fully tested in 6-8 months. The Covid 19 vaccine is developed from exactly the same building blocks and took 8 months to fully test.

[Jonty]

Covid 19 is not a Flu variant. It is caused by infection with the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus first identified in 2019, and the flu is caused by infection with variants of the influenza virus. Different diseases that are spread in a similar way and some of the symptoms are similar but not all. You can even have covid and flu both at the same time.