Early kick-offs ?

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Re: Early kick-offs ?

Post by oldtimer » Tue Sep 06, 2022 8:46 pm

Watching Barrow since 1956. KO times varied. I recall a few 2.00pm kick offs but the only programme I have with evidence of kick off times is the Chelsea v Barrow FA Cup tie on 10 January 1948. Before Stamford Bridge had floodlights and this kicked off at 2.15 pm. I also recall Barrow v Birmingham City in the FL Cup at Holker Street on 15 October 1962. An evening kick off at 5.45 pm.

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Re: Early kick-offs ?

Post by behind the goals » Tue Sep 06, 2022 10:04 pm

If them kick-off times happened now games would not get finished, even in 1948 & 1962 both winter matches it must have been pretty dark towards full time(in them days 90min games with half time 10mins) now its 100+ mins and 15mins h/t.

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Re: Early kick-offs ?

Post by mickmike wilson » Wed Sep 07, 2022 12:46 pm

oldtimer wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 8:46 pm Watching Barrow since 1956. KO times varied. I recall a few 2.00pm kick offs but the only programme I have with evidence of kick off times is the Chelsea v Barrow FA Cup tie on 10 January 1948. Before Stamford Bridge had floodlights and this kicked off at 2.15 pm. I also recall Barrow v Birmingham City in the FL Cup at Holker Street on 15 October 1962. An evening kick off at 5.45 pm.
Is this the game that had an attendance of 55k which I believe is the highest crowd we have ever played in front of & I won’t mention the score line

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Re: Early kick-offs ?

Post by sempre contigo » Wed Sep 07, 2022 1:26 pm

behind the goals wrote: ↑Sun Sep 04, 2022 7:41 pm league`s below the National league talking about dinner time kick-offs and some have said if possible even midweek games starting same time, the loss of crowds will be cheaper than having floodlights on for nearly 3 hours, teams need to warm up before games. Can see the EFL making a decision shortly on early kick-offs.
That might be true if you get 150 fans at home, surely not if you’re getting 3500
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Re: Early kick-offs ?

Post by Cubbins Paratrooper » Wed Sep 07, 2022 2:12 pm

mickmike wilson wrote: ↑Wed Sep 07, 2022 12:46 pm
oldtimer wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 8:46 pm Watching Barrow since 1956. KO times varied. I recall a few 2.00pm kick offs but the only programme I have with evidence of kick off times is the Chelsea v Barrow FA Cup tie on 10 January 1948. Before Stamford Bridge had floodlights and this kicked off at 2.15 pm. I also recall Barrow v Birmingham City in the FL Cup at Holker Street on 15 October 1962. An evening kick off at 5.45 pm.
Is this the game that had an attendance of 55k which I believe is the highest crowd we have ever played in front of & I won’t mention the score line
I believe that tie at Stamford Bridge back in 1948 was watched by a crowd of 44,336. Nothing to be ashamed of losing 5-0.

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Re: Early kick-offs ?

Post by EL CHAS » Thu Sep 08, 2022 2:52 pm

Panic over- Liz Truss to the rescue.

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Re: Early kick-offs ?

Post by HenneysKnee » Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:38 pm

Mansfield have moved their game against Walsall in a few weeks to a 1pm kick off to trial what difference it makes to energy costs and also how it affects the crowd kicking off at that time

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Re: Early kick-offs ?

Post by JammyBluebird » Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:45 pm

HenneysKnee wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:38 pm Mansfield have moved their game against Walsall in a few weeks to a 1pm kick off to trial what difference it makes to energy costs and also how it affects the crowd kicking off at that time
Not far for Walsall to travel for that one.

I'd hate 1pm kick offs to be a thing for any team that needs to travel long distances. If you are reliant on 2/3 particular trains all running and on time to get to a ground with an hour to spare it doesn't seem fair on fans.

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Re: Early kick-offs ?

Post by Big_Bluebird » Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:37 pm

If a game had kicked off at 1pm today at holker street the floodlights would have been needed for the full 90 mins


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Re: Early kick-offs ?

Post by Richard Ingham » Tue Sep 27, 2022 11:05 am

Bradford are surveying fans for their views about moving times games kick off between November and March.

Given we play there in February it might be worth us giving our views!!!

https://www.bradfordcityafc.com/news/20 ... off-times/

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Re: Early kick-offs ?

Post by Lancaster Branch » Tue Sep 27, 2022 12:36 pm

Richard Ingham wrote: ↑Tue Sep 27, 2022 11:05 am Given we play there in February it might be worth us giving our views!!!

https://www.bradfordcityafc.com/news/20 ... off-times/
Need a customer number to take part.

May one suggest that the Trust surveys the members and that can be fed back to our hierarchy, via Frazer?

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Post by Richard Ingham » Tue Sep 27, 2022 2:10 pm

Just add 000000 as the number that seemed to work for me.

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Re: Early kick-offs ?

Post by Theythinkitsallover » Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:30 am

Big_Bluebird wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:37 pm If a game had kicked off at 1pm today at holker street the floodlights would have been needed for the full 90 mins
has anyone even thought to ask how much the NEW LED floodlighting actually costs to run?
Im told each stantion is fed off a 6A breaker. which at approx 4A/kW is capable of approx 1.5kW (max)
So all 4 corners and some stand lights on would be about 8 - 10 kW.....
energy at 50P/Kw hour. £4-£5 an hour. so early starts to save on floodlighting costs?
There must be better ways to save on running costs than messing with the 3pm tradition.

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Re: Early kick-offs ?

Post by Main Stand SeasonTct » Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:32 am

Theythinkitsallover wrote: ↑Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:30 am
Big_Bluebird wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:37 pm If a game had kicked off at 1pm today at holker street the floodlights would have been needed for the full 90 mins
has anyone even thought to ask how much the NEW LED floodlighting actually costs to run?
Im told each stantion is fed off a 6A breaker. which at approx 4A/kW is capable of approx 1.5kW (max)
So all 4 corners and some stand lights on would be about 8 - 10 kW.....
energy at 50P/Kw hour. £4-£5 an hour. so early starts to save on floodlighting costs?
There must be better ways to save on running costs than messing with the 3pm tradition.
Given our floodlights are relatively new LED lights and as has been mentioned cheap to run compared to other clubs who have older floodlighting I don’t see any reason why we should change KO times

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