Barrow Soccer History/Art Walk

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Post by Barrow Lad New » Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:58 am

pjdaly wrote: Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:44 am Brilliant, Barrow Lad. That second article is hilarious, with all the whingeing about the refereeing! I'll bet none of those folks living today in the houses in and around Parade Street know of the hallowed ground their homes are built upon! I know Darren Gardner virtually emptied the well with his many books about Barrow AFC but maybe there's a chance there for you to write the definitive story of the Barrow FC before Barrow AFC???
Thanks! Enjoying unearthing them and suspect there will be many reports in those old papers. It can be entertaining finding them on those microfilms of broadsheets with very small fonts,
finding other intriguing stories along the way!

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Post by Barrow Lad New » Sun Jan 08, 2023 9:04 pm

Following my earlier posts, we learn from the “Barrow News” of 3rd December 1892 that the original Association team Barrow FC played in amber and black striped jerseys, with black pants.

We also learn that matches at the Parade Ground could be watched from the Keith-street windows. Also, Barrow FC’s home start to the season was excellent with five wins – but the five rainy days led to poor gates and financial losses while “footballers, like pigs, seemed to glory in paddling about in the mud”. Interesting to read the lady-reporter’s take on the Accrington game too!

There is a photo of the Parade Ground taken a few years earlier in 1883/84 with members of Barrow Amateur Cycling Club. This appears in the book “Barrow and District” by borough librarian Fred Barnes (Second Edition 1968).

Here is the article for your enjoyment:-

Our Tam o'Shanter writes:-

To-day the Association Club has a big order on hand. They have to play a couple of first team matches. The best eleven is going to Bury to tackle the Lancashire Cup holders, whilst another eleven, comprised principally of reserves, will meet the Workington Black Diamonds, semi-finalists Cumberland Cup, at the Parade Ground. This will be rather too much for them, I think, and if they don't lose both matches they will do well.

The same old rain! The same old ground! Up to Friday we had favourable weather, and on the Friday evening everything seemed to indicate that we should at last have a good ground to play on, and footballers retired to bed well pleased with the weather, and visions of a good game and big gate on the following day. But in the morning- "Oh! what a difference in the morning!" as the song says- for in the morning the nice dry weather had disappeared, and the ground resembled a duck-pond, with the effects of the thaw and the rain. Therefore once more, gentlemen, were the fates against us, and the "gate" at the match failed to cover the guarantee of the visiting team; and there we were again, facing an adverse balance. We won, of course, if that is any consolation, as we have on the last five occasions at home, and a pretty table I could make out, viz:

Matches Played 5, Won 5, Lost 0, Goals for 15, Goals against 5

Plenty of five's, you will see. Here is another:-

Matches Played 5, Won 5, Wet Days 5, Dry Days 0, Gates Spoilt 5

The last one takes the cake, boys! Well, as regards Saturday's game the Athletic were not in the same street as our men at football, and the score, as usual, should have been greatly increased. The Barrow forwards were in fine form, McDonald especially. Peacock was trickier than ever, and I feel sure "Andy" could have scored on several occasions had he exerted himself. Marshall played a good game, and centred earlier and oftener than is his wont, and seemed to delight in the mud. The left wingers were all there- and I was glad to see Linton shoot at goal more, as he scored with a rattling shot. The halves were strengthened by the inclusion of Slinger, who, although on the light side, nevertheless played a good game- and a half-back game also. The backs seemed hardly as good as usual, and the shot that scored was not entirely Kennedy's fault- although some people, as usual, think the goalkeeper should have cleared, and not have waited as he did. The Preston team have improved since they were here last, and have some good men now, but can't they find a bigger goalkeeper, I wonder! The gentleman between the sticks on Saturday stood little over 5 ft., so it's no wonder the high shots scored.

The Preston men played in white shirts, but not for long, as it was impossible to tell what colour they were intended to represent. I wonder if McDonald accidentally or intentionally fell into that pool of water, when the Preston full back, with a clean white shirt, came tumbling over his back. McDonald did not look so bad when he got on his legs, but the Prestonian- Oh, where was that white shirt?

There were one or two very amusing "spills" on Saturday. On one occasion Linton somewhat unceremoniously fetched down a Prestonian in a pool of water, who on recovering his feet shouted "foul" as loudly as possible. "Ah, dry up", says Linton; "wanting fouls on a day like this".

Another time a Barrovian handed the ball as he was being tackled by an opponent, whilst between them lay quite a pool of water. "Hands", claimed the Preston lad. "Yes", said the Barrovian, "Hands across the sea!".

Grewar on one occasion got "riled" at the way a Prestonian was dancing about him, the ball at the time being away from them. So the brawny Scotchman picked his opponent clean off his feet and threw him down in the mud some yards away.

We all like the ladies, and footballers especially like to see them at their matches. Unfortunately the weather has been against their attendance lately, but there were some who dared to turn out at the Barrow v Accrington match, while others watched the boys from Keith-street windows. The ladies like reading football, too, I know, but we men seem only to study the sterner sex in this respect, as our reports and notes are undoubtedly chock full of technicalities, which possibly our lady friends can scarcely understand, so the little dears will like to see what one of their own sex has to say about the Accrington game:-

On Saturday, November 26th, Association was played in the Parade Ground between Barrow and Accrington. The Barrow footballers were gorgeously decked out in amber and black striped jerseys, with black pants. Accrington athletes had red jerseys. They all looked quite smart as they strode majestically into the field, but at the kick-off they were treated to a heavy shower of rain, which gave some of them a decidedly washy appearance, and took the curl out of their hair. Both sides played hard, Barrow securing one goal before half-time. Two jugs of, shall we say coffee? played a very prominent part during the interval, after which Barrow's opponents became desperate, and fought like lions, but it was of no use; they had to fight against the invincible, well-drilled footballers of Barrow, and were defeated. By this time their brilliant attire was well patched with mud. Some of the footballers, like pigs, seemed to glory in paddling about in the mud, for in running after the ball they danced about in the puddles in high glee. It was fun to watch them, especially when some fellow was made to turn a double somersault in his attempt to get the ball. Among the red-jackets was a tall, well-built player, upon whom the Barrovians kept their weather eye, for he kept them going. One of the Barrovians took things very coolly, for at intervals he paused to hitch up his pants, or moon about with his hands behind his head. But after imbibing the contents of the jug he returned to his post with renewed vigour and rolled about in the mud a few times. When the whistle blew for the game to end the retiring athletes were again deluged with rain. After scrambling into their coats, both parties wended their way to the Adelphi Hotel, where, let us hope, they had a good wash, before filling their stomachs, which is the usual ending to a football match. - Yours, &c., A LADY LOOKER ON.

The above was handed me by one of our forwards. Unfortunately, I do not claim acquaintance with this lady-reporter, but I hope she will favour me again with her ideas of the game, as, I am sure, it will be interesting, and if the boys think they are being watched with a pair of lady-reporter's eyes, they will, no doubt, look more to their laurels and their curls. Bootle used to be possessed of lady-reporters, so why shouldn't Barrow ? Write again, please.

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Post by Hadrian » Sun Jan 08, 2023 10:15 pm

Excellent!

Thanks for sharing.

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Post by MisterPleasant » Sun Jan 08, 2023 10:32 pm

That's wonderful. "Two jugs of, shall we say, coffee?" :lol:
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Post by Barrow Lad New » Sun Jan 08, 2023 10:53 pm

MisterPleasant wrote: Sun Jan 08, 2023 10:32 pm That's wonderful. "Two jugs of, shall we say, coffee?" :lol:
We all know that it was the Amber nectar to match their shirts!

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Post by FanzoneFan » Mon Jan 09, 2023 9:52 am

Keep the good work up Barrow Lad an excellent read.

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Post by MisterPleasant » Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:33 am

I saw the photo you put up of Parade Ground with the cycling club on the 'Old photos of Furness' Facebook page. It's fair to say it was a bit of a midden, a challenge for the 'Gareth' of the day. I also note that someone has anticipated your research and has even more history! :shock:
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Post by Barrow Lad New » Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:23 pm

MisterPleasant wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:33 am I saw the photo you put up of Parade Ground with the cycling club on the 'Old photos of Furness' Facebook page. It's fair to say it was a bit of a midden, a challenge for the 'Gareth' of the day. I also note that someone has anticipated your research and has even more history! :shock:
Yes, it is on the Memory Lane Furness FB page and I can only post the picture there. I went down to the site this morning and saw the three storey houses on Keith Street which overlooked the ground. The other two-storey side of Keith Street was built at the same time as Parade Street on the Parade Ground. I didn't know someone else was telling this early history and look forward to reading his research when it is published. Meanwhile I will continue to trawl as there is so much material in the small print of the Barrow News, not just reports but articles which give personal insights beyond the stats of games and players!

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Post by pjdaly » Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:29 pm

Once again, many thanks Barrow Lad New, this is very entertaining. Have you thought about asking the mods to section your recent contributions into a separate thread for although this thread is entitled "Barrow Soccer History" you have taken that "history" into a very discreet area - ie, Barrow FC long before 1901 - and some would-be readers might be not seeing this stuff.

There are some real gems in your latest contribution:

"But in the morning- "Oh! what a difference in the morning!" as the song says- for in the morning the nice dry weather had disappeared, and the ground resembled a duck-pond" . . . I've never heard of that song but wonder if it inspired the more positive "Oh what a beautiful morning"!

"The backs seemed hardly as good as usual, and the shot that scored was not entirely Kennedy's fault- although some people, as usual, think the goalkeeper should have cleared" . . . wow, that might have applied to the Mansfield match when our current keeper copped flack from some when maybe our "backs" should not have left a gap in the wall!

"On one occasion Linton somewhat unceremoniously fetched down a Prestonian in a pool of water, who on recovering his feet shouted "foul" as loudly as possible." . . . . . Some things haven't changed.

"Another time a Barrovian handed the ball as he was being tackled by an opponent, whilst between them lay quite a pool of water. "Hands", claimed the Preston lad." . . . . . Some things haven't changed.

"So the brawny Scotchman picked his opponent clean off his feet and threw him down in the mud some yards away." . . . . . Hilarious. I bet he didn't get sent off in those pre-card (or even book) days!

" . . . others watched the boys from Keith-street windows" . . . . . I bet those looking out of their back-windows on that side of Keith Street today have no idea what they would have seen out the back all those years ago!

"The ladies like reading football, too, I know, but we men seem only to study the sterner sex in this respect, as our reports and notes are undoubtedly chock full of technicalities, which possibly our lady friends can scarcely understand, so the little dears will like to see what one of their own sex has to say about the Accrington game:-" . . . . . should we even go here? Imagine the outcry if that reporting happened today!

"But after imbibing the contents of the jug he returned to his post with renewed vigour and rolled about in the mud a few times." What can you say to follow that?

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Post by MisterPleasant » Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:40 pm

pjdaly wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:29 pm
There are some real gems in your latest contribution:

"But in the morning- "Oh! what a difference in the morning!" as the song says- for in the morning the nice dry weather had disappeared, and the ground resembled a duck-pond" . . . I've never heard of that song but wonder if it inspired the more positive "Oh what a beautiful morning"!
Seek and ye shall find. (Perhaps it should be 'Google and ye shall find'). 'Oh! What a difference in the morning' by Norton Atkins and Felix McGlennon (1891). The lyrics are quite hilarious basically saying how one repents the actions of the previous night. This is the chorus to one verse:

"But, oh! what a difference In the morning.
Then comes repentance with the dawning;
Tho' he's very, very dry, for a drink he'd vainly cry,
For his wife's been thru' his pockets In the morning."


Been there, got the t-shirt ;)
Apologies, that does take it away from the main topic.
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Post by Barrow Lad New » Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:37 pm

MisterPleasant wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:40 pm
pjdaly wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:29 pm
There are some real gems in your latest contribution:

"But in the morning- "Oh! what a difference in the morning!" as the song says- for in the morning the nice dry weather had disappeared, and the ground resembled a duck-pond" . . . I've never heard of that song but wonder if it inspired the more positive "Oh what a beautiful morning"!
Seek and ye shall find. (Perhaps it should be 'Google and ye shall find'). 'Oh! What a difference in the morning' by Norton Atkins and Felix McGlennon (1891). The lyrics are quite hilarious basically saying how one repents the actions of the previous night. This is the chorus to one verse:

"But, oh! what a difference In the morning.
Then comes repentance with the dawning;
Tho' he's very, very dry, for a drink he'd vainly cry,
For his wife's been thru' his pockets In the morning."


Been there, got the t-shirt ;)
Apologies, that does take it away from the main topic.
Cheers. I had also looked up that music hall song and you can see the sheet music here. In the absence of radio, cinema and TV, music hall was the main form of paying entertainment and this would probably be one of the the latest comic songs performed on stage in Barrow at either the Royalty on the corner of Cavendish/Dalkeith Streets, the Royal Star Theatre of Varieties in Forshaw Street or the Royal Amphitheatre (later the Palace) on Duke Street.

https://digitalcommons.library.umaine.e ... ext=mmb-vp

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Post by Barrow Lad New » Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:49 pm

pjdaly wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:29 pm Once again, many thanks Barrow Lad New, this is very entertaining. Have you thought about asking the mods to section your recent contributions into a separate thread for although this thread is entitled "Barrow Soccer History" you have taken that "history" into a very discreet area - ie, Barrow FC long before 1901 - and some would-be readers might be not seeing this stuff.

There are some real gems in your latest contribution
Glad you enjoyed reading it as much as I did transcribing. Certainly builds up a picture of the time and what has- and hasn't changed. I am now attempting to play the sheet music of the then-new 1891 music hall song "Oh, What A Difference In The Morning" on the piano to add to the flavour of the piece! As with all research, it grows legs of its own and is both general history of Association Football in the town and a distinct reflection of life in the Victorian "naughty nineties" before King Edward VII and Barrow AFC arrived!

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Post by Barrow Lad New » Tue Jan 10, 2023 4:31 pm

Further to my previous Barrow FC posts, here is an extract from the “Barrow News” for 5th November 1892, and their away English Cup encounter with Rossendale the previous week. This details the difficulties of travelling to the game, let alone playing it, some players just having come off the night-shift! A complex train journey was followed by a stiff walk uphill from Waterfoot station to the Bluebell at Newchurch and the adjoining ground.

From a railway perspective, it was interesting to read that the Furness Railway manager managed to borrow a posh Lancashire and Yorkshire railway saloon carriage for the team to travel in as far as Bolton!

There were also more grumbles on the weather affecting the financial viability of the club although appeals to the faithful at home did help replenish the coffers even in bad weather, For example, after the Barrow v Accrington game on 26th November, the reporter thanked “those enthusiasts who turned up on such a day to give us a lift. It must surely have been compassion that brought them to the Parade Ground in the rain, not football, and therefore to those faithful "five hundred" I, on behalf of the club, tender our most sincere thanks”.
Back to the earlier away cup-tie at Rossendale- here’s the report:-

Ill luck has this year stuck tenaciously to the Barrow Club as regards the weather, and Saturday proved no exception, as the elements "raged furiously" and prevented anything like a fair attendance at the English Cup tie between Barrow and Rossendale, and added to these uncomfortable circumstances the Barrow representatives came away from the Rossendale valley with the hard fact thrust upon them that they not only had they had notice to quit from the cup competition, but also that their share of the gate was such that would involve a loss to the Barrow club on the day's proceedings.

To be beaten by a superior team on the day's form Barrow could not grumble at, but they think old Jupiter Pluvius might have been kind to them for once in a way, and given them a fair day to make their tedious journey in, and a chance of helping the club's exchequer up, as the Rossendale Club. on a fair day, think nothing of a 4,000 or 5,000 "gate", and an English Cup tie should have "drawn" a little over the average at least. However, Barrow got the worst of the argument both on the field and financially, and as I was unable to journey to Rossendale myself I got a friend (who has before obliged) to give his idea of the day's fun. He says:-

Having decided to accompany the Barrow team to Rossendale on Saturday perhaps a few notes on our journey and the match will be interesting to many of our Association friends. 7 a.m. found us at Barrow station, comfortably seated in a saloon, supplied by the L. and Y. and which was undoubtedly about the most comfortable and accommodating carriage that ever carried a football team out of Barrow. Thanks to Mr. Lomas, of the F.R., in procuring the same. We were much depressed on starting to find that Marshall had not turned up. However, we had every hope of our reserve man, F. Poole, joining us at Preston station, and telegraphed from Carnforth to make sure, word being also left at Barrow to send Marshall on.

Reaching Preston we found the team still numbered ten, as through unforeseen circumstances Poole could not accompany us. This was most unfortunate- 10.30 found us at Bolton, with 40 minutes to wait for our connection, the saloon being detached here until our return to Bolton. Lunch was now partaken of and justice done to the same. Mr. R. Thompson, the worthy treasurer, having provided a substantial feed.

11.10 saw us en route for Ratcliffe, our next changing station, with 15 minutes wait. We arrived at Waterfoot at 12.15, glad of the end of our tedious journey. Our quarters were pointed out by one of the inhabitants with the following:- "It's reet a'top o' th' hill is th' Blue Bell", and the Barrow team did not forget that hill. The hotel and ground are situated at the west side of Rossendale Valley, where you can get a splendid view of the hills opposite, with Rawtenstall, Waterfoot and all the surrounding villages lying down in the valley.

2.30 brought us near to the time of kicking off, and much to the delight of all, the Rossendale secretary announced that he had received a message that Marshall was on his way. This gave us more hope- 3.00pm. The referee, Mr. Smalley, and our absentees arrived together, having landed at Rawtenstall, where they intended to four-wheel it to Newchurch but, to their surprise, the only cab in the village was engaged for a funeral, so the live men had to walk. For the past two hours up to this time the weather had been very boisterous, now rain began to descend, which swept across the valley, resembling a snow storm rather than a rain storm.

At 3.10 p.m., our men faced a strong professional team hailing from Blackburn, Burnley, Accrington etc. Having won the toss, Barrow chose to play against a slanting wind, and put in some smart play, Rossendale being unable to make anything of the visitors for the first 30 minutes. Seeing this did not take effect, the kick and rush business was resorted to by Rossendale, which took effect, and at half-time Rossendale held the lead by one to nothing.

The second half was a continual off-side play on Rossendale's part, and which was undoubtedly a paying game, as at times it was impossible for the referee to decide when a man was off-side. As reported, they were disallowed two off-side goals. Our men towards the end seemed to tire (naturally so), but defended well, occasionally breaking away and troubling the homesters. Kennedy, Whitehead, Rankin, Peacock and Conway were the pick of the Barrow team. It is only fair to state that three of the Barrow men had been working all night: thus taking all into consideration Barrow did well. Had Rossendale been on the Parade Ground, I think the result would have been different.

We had now but 60 minutes to dress, walk a mile, and have tea, before returning to Barrow, which was successfully done; a hearty wish by the Rossendale secretary that Barrow would be in the Lancashire League next season, as he assured us our team was worthy of a position. Thus we bid farewell to Rossendale and the English pot for the present season. 11.20 p.m. found us in Barrow, all ready for a rest we fully deserved.

Great disappointment was expressed in Barrow, on Saturday night, when it was known the "Association Club" was knocked out of the English Cup. It would indeed have been a splendid victory had the Barrovians been victorious, and, for my ow part, I expected them to do something startling. I hoped they would have succeeded where South Shore failed, but in this I was mistaken. There are excuses to be made for the Barrow men, aye, and good ones, too: but we must be content with knowing that our lads fell to a superior team on the day's form, and send excuses to the wind. Good luck to you, Rossendale. You had the advantage of ground, and you CAN play football on it.

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Post by MisterPleasant » Tue Jan 10, 2023 5:00 pm

That is just superb and, as someone who has lived in Rossendale , the geographic descriptions brought a wave of nostalgia. I see the Blue Bell closed in 2013.
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Post by Barrow Lad New » Tue Jan 10, 2023 6:00 pm

MisterPleasant wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 5:00 pm That is just superb and, as someone who has lived in Rossendale , the geographic descriptions brought a wave of nostalgia. I see the Blue Bell closed in 2013.
Cheers. Waterfoot for Newchurch station is also long gone closing in 1966.

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