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Post by Suffolk Blue » Thu May 30, 2024 7:29 pm

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Post by Louis29 » Thu May 30, 2024 10:42 pm

If Ian Wood is mates with Dan Ashworth has he been instrumental in Clemence coming? Obviously if he gets the job!!!

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Post by Bigfathoss » Thu May 30, 2024 10:59 pm

Nothing on official media yet?
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Post by Bombadel » Thu May 30, 2024 11:10 pm

Not to sound negative, but Stephen Clemence finished 12th with Gillinghams owner being a multi millionaire from the states. Hope he does well though for us though, and the gills fans on social medial hold no grudge against him and seem to rate him. Has a huge amount of experience at the top level as a midfielder and would hopefully improve Gotts, Campbell etc.
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Post by mall » Fri May 31, 2024 8:34 am

Bombadel wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2024 11:10 pm Not to sound negative, but Stephen Clemence finished 12th with Gillinghams owner being a multi millionaire from the states. Hope he does well though for us though, and the gills fans on social medial hold no grudge against him and seem to rate him. Has a huge amount of experience at the top level as a midfielder and would hopefully improve Gotts, Campbell etc.
If it's true then he should have a decent pre season so could well be a case of horses for courses.

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Post by Main Stand SeasonTct » Fri May 31, 2024 8:44 am

Bombadel wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2024 11:10 pm Not to sound negative, but Stephen Clemence finished 12th with Gillinghams owner being a multi millionaire from the states. Hope he does well though for us though, and the gills fans on social medial hold no grudge against him and seem to rate him. Has a huge amount of experience at the top level as a midfielder and would hopefully improve Gotts, Campbell etc.
He never joined Gillingham until November. He had to get 4 players out to bring 4 in. Fans said he wasn't supported in January window and many would like to have seen him given a full summer as they think he has the potential to be a good manager.

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Post by Bombadel » Fri May 31, 2024 9:38 am

Main Stand SeasonTct wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 8:44 am
Bombadel wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2024 11:10 pm Not to sound negative, but Stephen Clemence finished 12th with Gillinghams owner being a multi millionaire from the states. Hope he does well though for us though, and the gills fans on social medial hold no grudge against him and seem to rate him. Has a huge amount of experience at the top level as a midfielder and would hopefully improve Gotts, Campbell etc.
He never joined Gillingham until November. He had to get 4 players out to bring 4 in. Fans said he wasn't supported in January window and many would like to have seen him given a full summer as they think he has the potential to be a good manager.
Fair enough, according to their press release they let him go to take the club forward, “best chance of having that success is by making a change” PW with his confidence and connection to the fans was always gonna be a tough act to follow, I guess results and consistent performances will speak louder than fist bumps.

PW also had a young family and mortgage and was keen to be a success, whereas, Clemence seems more like the David Dunn calibre of manager, guess time will tell.
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Re: Barrow’s next manager

Post by Big_Bluebird » Fri May 31, 2024 9:44 am

Bombadel wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 9:38 am
Main Stand SeasonTct wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 8:44 am

He never joined Gillingham until November. He had to get 4 players out to bring 4 in. Fans said he wasn't supported in January window and many would like to have seen him given a full summer as they think he has the potential to be a good manager.
Fair enough, according to their press release they let him go to take the club forward, “best chance of having that success is by making a change” PW with his confidence and connection to the fans was always gonna be a tough act to follow, I guess results and consistent performances will speak louder than fist bumps.

PW also had a young family and mortgage and was keen to be a success, whereas, Clemence seems more like the David Dunn calibre of manager, guess time will tell.
Doesn’t Clemence have a family and mortgage? What makes you say he’s not keen to be a success?

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Post by Bombadel » Fri May 31, 2024 9:51 am

Big_Bluebird wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 9:44 am
Bombadel wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 9:38 am

Fair enough, according to their press release they let him go to take the club forward, “best chance of having that success is by making a change” PW with his confidence and connection to the fans was always gonna be a tough act to follow, I guess results and consistent performances will speak louder than fist bumps.

PW also had a young family and mortgage and was keen to be a success, whereas, Clemence seems more like the David Dunn calibre of manager, guess time will tell.
Doesn’t Clemence have a family and mortgage? What makes you say he’s not keen to be a success?
Playing at the top level (250 appearances in the prem and football league) there isn’t the same financial pressure to succeed. Only my opinion, like I say, PW had a huge level of confidence and ambition. Just feels like this new appointment is more in the Dunn category.
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Post by Suffolk Blue » Fri May 31, 2024 9:55 am

Well the Gillingham forum take on him can be summarised as - nice bloke, decent ideas, needs some development, treated harshly by the club when he didn’t meet their ambitions after being handed someone else’s squad.

In other words he didn’t fit. Had PW been handed that job it’s difficult to see a degree of fit there either.

So the idea of a Wood/ Clemence combo if it worked is not a bad one. If it’s true then I hope we’ve done due diligence and this is not a “rebound” appointment.

One word of caution. Part of his problem at Gillingham was I think his difficulty in working with their DoF Kenny Jacket who’s instincts as most of us will know are those of a unreconstructed EFL football manager.

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Post by bhbb » Fri May 31, 2024 10:00 am

Bombadel wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 9:51 am
Big_Bluebird wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 9:44 am

Doesn’t Clemence have a family and mortgage? What makes you say he’s not keen to be a success?
Playing at the top level (250 appearances in the prem and football league) there isn’t the same financial pressure to succeed. Only my opinion, like I say, PW had a huge level of confidence and ambition. Just feels like this new appointment is more in the Dunn category.
Could have said the same of evatt?

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Post by Jonty » Fri May 31, 2024 10:37 am

Whoever it is to raise the bar on Wild we need to challenge for promotion next season.
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Re: Barrow’s next manager

Post by bluessupporter » Fri May 31, 2024 10:41 am

Jonty wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 10:37 am Whoever it is to raise the bar on Wild we need to challenge for promotion next season.
Not sure about the new setup. It seems that Wood chooses the players and the head coach has to work with them. I suspect it may be a bit different to Wild's 'good person first and good player second' which I liked.

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Re: Barrow’s next manager

Post by Bombadel » Fri May 31, 2024 10:43 am

bhbb wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 10:00 am
Bombadel wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 9:51 am
Playing at the top level (250 appearances in the prem and football league) there isn’t the same financial pressure to succeed. Only my opinion, like I say, PW had a huge level of confidence and ambition. Just feels like this new appointment is more in the Dunn category.
Could have said the same of evatt?
Fair point, time will tell I guess, one of the board had a saying that you don’t let good people go, (unless, as the rumours say, Wild has broken his contractual agreements) feels like we’re taking a gamble and starting again.
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