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Jim wrote: ↑Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:37 pm

We can criticise the appointment of Dunn and Jolley and we can criticise the choice of signings by both managers, but we don't know what constraints the Board were under regarding what was affordable. Perhaps we could not attract a manager with a proven track record in L2 or L1, like some of the names that have been bandied about on this forum from time to time.

Jim wrote: ↑Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:37 pm

blue nige wrote: ↑Sun Feb 21, 2021 10:42 am
the damage that Dunn's recruitment did destroyed everything we've done over the past 2 seasons,

The root cause of our present predicament was Evatt baling out and leaving us in the lurch. I am grateful that he won us promotion, but I feel very bad that he moved on at the first opportunity (or perhaps it was the second, bearing in mind the Fylde saga). If he had stayed, that team, with two or three strategic additions, would have done OK in this league.

We can criticise the appointment of Dunn and Jolley and we can criticise the choice of signings by both managers, but we don't know what constraints the Board were under regarding what was affordable. Perhaps we could not attract a manager with a proven track record in L2 or L1, like some of the names that have been bandied about on this forum from time to time.

Even Jolley's signings might have been the only ones that met the criteria of being experienced but affordable. As someone pointed out, several of them were coming back after injury absences and/or not wanted by their present clubs. Not ideal, but perhaps they were the best we could get. In any case, I don't think we should write them off yet as bad signings after only a few games, especially with the on/off nature of our recent fixtures.

Jim wrote: ↑Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:37 pm

blue nige wrote: ↑Sun Feb 21, 2021 10:42 am
the damage that Dunn's recruitment did destroyed everything we've done over the past 2 seasons,

The root cause of our present predicament was Evatt baling out and leaving us in the lurch. I am grateful that he won us promotion, but I feel very bad that he moved on at the first opportunity (or perhaps it was the second, bearing in mind the Fylde saga). If he had stayed, that team, with two or three strategic additions, would have done OK in this league.

We can criticise the appointment of Dunn and Jolley and we can criticise the choice of signings by both managers, but we don't know what constraints the Board were under regarding what was affordable. Perhaps we could not attract a manager with a proven track record in L2 or L1, like some of the names that have been bandied about on this forum from time to time.

Even Jolley's signings might have been the only ones that met the criteria of being experienced but affordable. As someone pointed out, several of them were coming back after injury absences and/or not wanted by their present clubs. Not ideal, but perhaps they were the best we could get. In any case, I don't think we should write them off yet as bad signings after only a few games, especially with the on/off nature of our recent fixtures.

Pedro wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:52 pm Should never have been appointed purely for his record in Scotland and Grimsby.
Obviously took some of the players words that they are footballer without checking.
But like Johnson good wordsmith but poor on delivery.
If we go down its our own fault.
He should be shown the door ,Kelly does not want the job but maybe him ,Jason Taylor,Quigley could form a management team for the games left.
I thought Norman Bodell was bad.
Listening to the interview on Radio Cumbria ,the bucks stops with him solely.

MikeRenney wrote: ↑Sun Feb 21, 2021 2:17 pm

Pedro wrote: ↑Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:52 pm Should never have been appointed purely for his record in Scotland and Grimsby.
Obviously took some of the players words that they are footballer without checking.
But like Johnson good wordsmith but poor on delivery.
If we go down its our own fault.
He should be shown the door ,Kelly does not want the job but maybe him ,Jason Taylor,Quigley could form a management team for the games left.
I thought Norman Bodell was bad.
Listening to the interview on Radio Cumbria ,the bucks stops with him solely.

Must admit my thoughts turned to Norman Bodell particularly when Mr Jolley signed lots of new players. This was exactly what Bodell did, replacing players with those of lesser quality and it took a few games until we realised his bluster was exactly that. Ever since I have thought it pays to be wary of managers who come in and rip a side apart or make wholesale changes in short time.

SKIPPER wrote: ↑Sun Feb 21, 2021 3:53 pm
Brian Kidd tops them both in that respect. Replaced fans favourites with waifs and strays from the streets of Salford.

holkerboy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 21, 2021 4:52 pm

SKIPPER wrote: ↑Sun Feb 21, 2021 3:53 pm
Brian Kidd tops them both in that respect. Replaced fans favourites with waifs and strays from the streets of Salford.

He seems to have wiped Barrow off his CV. Doesn't like being reminded of the complete mess he made of it!

holkerboy wrote: ↑Sun Feb 21, 2021 4:52 pm

SKIPPER wrote: ↑Sun Feb 21, 2021 3:53 pm
Brian Kidd tops them both in that respect. Replaced fans favourites with waifs and strays from the streets of Salford.

He seems to have wiped Barrow off his CV. Doesn't like being reminded of the complete mess he made of it!

Jim wrote: ↑Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:37 pm

blue nige wrote: ↑Sun Feb 21, 2021 10:42 am
the damage that Dunn's recruitment did destroyed everything we've done over the past 2 seasons,

The root cause of our present predicament was Evatt baling out and leaving us in the lurch. I am grateful that he won us promotion, but I feel very bad that he moved on at the first opportunity (or perhaps it was the second, bearing in mind the Fylde saga). If he had stayed, that team, with two or three strategic additions, would have done OK in this league.

We can criticise the appointment of Dunn and Jolley and we can criticise the choice of signings by both managers, but we don't know what constraints the Board were under regarding what was affordable. Perhaps we could not attract a manager with a proven track record in L2 or L1, like some of the names that have been bandied about on this forum from time to time.

Even Jolley's signings might have been the only ones that met the criteria of being experienced but affordable. As someone pointed out, several of them were coming back after injury absences and/or not wanted by their present clubs. Not ideal, but perhaps they were the best we could get. In any case, I don't think we should write them off yet as bad signings after only a few games, especially with the on/off nature of our recent fixtures.