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Re: Next Season Recruitment

Post by Holkerbird » Tue May 08, 2018 8:44 am

mall wrote: Tue May 08, 2018 2:42 am Forgive me but, what is it with people ?. The purse strings have been tightened according to the 'Mail'. What part of that dont people understand. Its going to be make do and mend this coming season. For gods sake,if PC had the money we would have seen something in terms of a new 'build' stand wise at the ground by now !. Forget about Luke James, it aint going to happen-much as ide love it to. Last season it was Guiseley-next season its our turn IMO. Why would it/should it be any different to what I have just said ?.

Well a right ray of sunshine you are. :lol: What's wrong with us having a little day dream of days that could be after the season we have just endured? We live in hope. :skill:

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Re: Next Season Recruitment

Post by Jo am back » Tue May 08, 2018 10:45 am

mall wrote: Tue May 08, 2018 2:42 am Forgive me but, what is it with people ?. The purse strings have been tightened according to the 'Mail'. What part of that dont people understand. Its going to be make do and mend this coming season. For gods sake,if PC had the money we would have seen something in terms of a new 'build' stand wise at the ground by now !. Forget about Luke James, it aint going to happen-much as ide love it to. Last season it was Guiseley-next season its our turn IMO. Why would it/should it be any different to what I have just said ?.
I do think you either need to get out more or find a new hobby through summer, your negativity is gonna get you down mate. On good information, “tightening of the purse strings” is not treating the players like there playing at championship level,overnight stays every time they have to travel over 10 miles,top meals on away trips and pre match,just a reduction on the over pampering of players playing at 5th tieer football. Dover do away trips up north, Barrow included, on the train , Saturday morning,makes sense really.

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Re: Next Season Recruitment

Post by Hitthebar22 » Tue May 08, 2018 12:50 pm

One of the main difficulties as far as recruitment is concerned is the role the agents play.
Very few players do not have an agent.
No one instinctively likes or applauds what they do, but they have a role to fulfil in this day and age, and a financial incentive for themselves.
The “word” may be that Casson is loaded, and prepared to pay top dollar. The evidence for that is the hyperbole surrounding the FA cup run season before last, and the publicity that went with it.
If I’m honest If I was a professional footballer, with an agent and a wife and maybe a couple of young ones, I can’t see myself immediately wanting to sign for Barrow where there is lots of travelling if there are alternative clubs to sign for.
Like it or not, at first sight we aren’t a fashionable or attractive lower league club. The most attractive feature on a practical basis is that training is near Manchester.
As I see it this is where Pennock is absolutely vital in the next few months. We don’t yet know if he can spot a player, but if he can, his persuasive ability to get someone to sign is so important, irrespective of our location. It also brings Casson in to the picture. How much will he pay?
We all know we could win the league nest year, and we all know we could finish bottom, it’s that kind of competition.

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Re: Next Season Recruitment

Post by BinnyJ » Tue May 08, 2018 5:06 pm

if it wasn't for luke james we would be gone ! hope he signs but prob deserves better ! its a short career !

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Re: Next Season Recruitment

Post by barrowaberdeen » Tue May 08, 2018 7:09 pm

I can't see Luke James signing, but would be a great statement and he is a) Northern and b) Has a cracking attitude

These are apparently and probably rightly, the minimum expectations this close season. The former to cut relocation costs and the latter because...well because that's how it should be.

Of course until the managerial situation is clear (who knows, I don't) we will have to wait. It is fair to say folk are under contract and it's early days but equally Ady had a list of targets he wanted to get in early.

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Re: Next Season Recruitment

Post by Pedro » Tue May 08, 2018 7:20 pm

Hitthebar22 wrote: Tue May 08, 2018 12:50 pm One of the main difficulties as far as recruitment is concerned is the role the agents play.
Very few players do not have an agent.
No one instinctively likes or applauds what they do, but they have a role to fulfil in this day and age, and a financial incentive for themselves.
The “word” may be that Casson is loaded, and prepared to pay top dollar. The evidence for that is the hyperbole surrounding the FA cup run season before last, and the publicity that went with it.
If I’m honest If I was a professional footballer, with an agent and a wife and maybe a couple of young ones, I can’t see myself immediately wanting to sign for Barrow where there is lots of travelling if there are alternative clubs to sign for.
Like it or not, at first sight we aren’t a fashionable or attractive lower league club. The most attractive feature on a practical basis is that training is near Manchester.
As I see it this is where Pennock is absolutely vital in the next few months. We don’t yet know if he can spot a player, but if he can, his persuasive ability to get someone to sign is so important, irrespective of our location. It also brings Casson in to the picture. How much will he pay?
We all know we could win the league nest year, and we all know we could finish bottom, it’s that kind of competition.
Well said,I find it worrying that Ady was going to speak to players after the season to say who was going to be retained or released but nothing has been annouced
He had a list of players he wanted to recruit depending which league we were going to be in.
As in the past the Manager has stated what he wants s to do in a way forward and it goes quiet .
My worry is Ady leave.

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Re: Next Season Recruitment

Post by SKIPPER » Tue May 08, 2018 7:50 pm

Pedro wrote: Tue May 08, 2018 7:20 pm
Hitthebar22 wrote: Tue May 08, 2018 12:50 pm One of the main difficulties as far as recruitment is concerned is the role the agents play.
Very few players do not have an agent.
No one instinctively likes or applauds what they do, but they have a role to fulfil in this day and age, and a financial incentive for themselves.
The “word” may be that Casson is loaded, and prepared to pay top dollar. The evidence for that is the hyperbole surrounding the FA cup run season before last, and the publicity that went with it.
If I’m honest If I was a professional footballer, with an agent and a wife and maybe a couple of young ones, I can’t see myself immediately wanting to sign for Barrow where there is lots of travelling if there are alternative clubs to sign for.
Like it or not, at first sight we aren’t a fashionable or attractive lower league club. The most attractive feature on a practical basis is that training is near Manchester.
As I see it this is where Pennock is absolutely vital in the next few months. We don’t yet know if he can spot a player, but if he can, his persuasive ability to get someone to sign is so important, irrespective of our location. It also brings Casson in to the picture. How much will he pay?
We all know we could win the league nest year, and we all know we could finish bottom, it’s that kind of competition.
Well said,I find it worrying that Ady was going to speak to players after the season to say who was going to be retained or released but nothing has been annouced
He had a list of players he wanted to recruit depending which league we were going to be in.
As in the past the Manager has stated what he wants s to do in a way forward and it goes quiet .
My worry is Ady leave.
Pedro,what planet are you on ?
a) The season has barely been over a WEEK
b) Most contracts run until the end of June. Players wind down,go on holiday, then start to worry about contracts for next season.And how do you know that AP hasn't already had prelim' talks with players even before the end of the season. These things can't be rushed otherwise,as we well know,you finish up with sh1t players.
Please take your negativity away for a summer break.

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Re: Next Season Recruitment

Post by Jonty » Tue May 08, 2018 8:17 pm

The latest news from the club is that the board believe Pennock is the man to take us forward and that Casson has told him to start making plans for next season.

http://www.thenationalleague.org.uk/pen ... reet-50271

Casson coming out and saying that we need to be a bit more frugal next season doesn’t mean Pennock shouldn’t be able to put together a competitive side. In fact that is what a good manager should be able to do. Macclesfield managed to do it and in the words of their manager- targeted players “who just want to go out there and get the job done”. Over the years we’ve had plenty of players who fit that bill, the job for Pennock is to go out and bring them all together for Barrow. Players who will give 100% every game. That team will forge a togetherness with fans and will make Holker Street once again a nightmare for away teams. Missing too often last season and needs to be sorted out.

We should go for Luke James, he fits the bill and of the sort of player we need. 100% every game. If Pennock can convince him he can put together that battling, competitive side and he wants him to be part of it.
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Re: Next Season Recruitment

Post by GTBLUE » Tue May 08, 2018 8:38 pm

Latest news from the National League. Sod all from our own club.The National League have got it from our club. No wonder fans get [SwearFilter] off. Thanks for the link Jonty.

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Re: Next Season Recruitment

Post by McMark » Tue May 08, 2018 8:47 pm

GTBLUE wrote: Tue May 08, 2018 8:38 pm Latest news from the National League. Sod all from our own club.The National League have got it from our club. No wonder fans get [SwearFilter] off. Thanks for the link Jonty.
Think that was what was said here a day earier; ;)
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Re: Next Season Recruitment

Post by GTBLUE » Tue May 08, 2018 9:14 pm

McMark wrote: Tue May 08, 2018 8:47 pm
GTBLUE wrote: Tue May 08, 2018 8:38 pm Latest news from the National League. Sod all from our own club.The National League have got it from our club. No wonder fans get [SwearFilter] off. Thanks for the link Jonty.
Think that was what was said here a day earier; ;)
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Re: Next Season Recruitment

Post by Pedro » Wed May 09, 2018 12:22 am

SKIPPER wrote: Tue May 08, 2018 7:50 pm
Pedro wrote: Tue May 08, 2018 7:20 pm
Well said,I find it worrying that Ady was going to speak to players after the season to say who was going to be retained or released but nothing has been annouced
He had a list of players he wanted to recruit depending which league we were going to be in.
As in the past the Manager has stated what he wants s to do in a way forward and it goes quiet .
My worry is Ady leave.
Pedro,what planet are you on ?
a) The season has barely been over a WEEK
b) Most contracts run until the end of June. Players wind down,go on holiday, then start to worry about contracts for next season.And how do you know that AP hasn't already had prelim' talks with players even before the end of the season. These things can't be rushed otherwise,as we well know,you finish up with sh1t players.
Please take your negativity away for a summer break.
If you are going to get rid of people because they are not up to it and there contract is up in a few weeks why not do it now.,what is the benefit of keeping them?
How many sasons have we left it to the last minute and signed stars such as Ritchie Baker or Leo Bertos

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Re: Next Season Recruitment

Post by Steeley » Wed May 09, 2018 6:42 am

Pedro wrote: Wed May 09, 2018 12:22 am
SKIPPER wrote: Tue May 08, 2018 7:50 pm
Pedro,what planet are you on ?
a) The season has barely been over a WEEK
b) Most contracts run until the end of June. Players wind down,go on holiday, then start to worry about contracts for next season.And how do you know that AP hasn't already had prelim' talks with players even before the end of the season. These things can't be rushed otherwise,as we well know,you finish up with sh1t players.
Please take your negativity away for a summer break.
If you are going to get rid of people because they are not up to it and there contract is up in a few weeks why not do it now.,what is the benefit of keeping them?
How many sasons have we left it to the last minute and signed stars such as Ritchie Baker or Leo Bertos
Not sure we can just release players without paying them off?

Baker was decent too.
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Re: Next Season Recruitment

Post by HenneysKnee » Wed May 09, 2018 8:21 am

It would be nice if the club could at least let us know for definite if Pennock is our manager for next season even if for some reason they want to keep the released/retainer list a state secret

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Re: Next Season Recruitment

Post by whitty1969 » Wed May 09, 2018 10:03 am

HenneysKnee wrote: Wed May 09, 2018 8:21 am It would be nice if the club could at least let us know for definite if Pennock is our manager for next season even if for some reason they want to keep the released/retainer list a state secret
Rolling contract. Been asked to recruit/build a team for next season.
What more do you want?

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